Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints

stepsideSdime · 10-16-2009, 10:38 PM

Which is better and why should I buy. (are the power performance ball joints 2 SuperTravel Upper Ball Joints and FREE Lower Ball Joints made for bagged trucks or will they still work on my 4" drop of 2" spindles and 2" springs?

S-10MASTER · 10-16-2009, 10:40 PM

They will still work. They are just designed so that you don't have to pie cut your uppers. If you feel like spending the money I say go for it.

stepsideSdime · 10-16-2009, 11:06 PM

well.... the power performance are actually cheaper than the moog so what I'm asking is which is better. The moog are 125 for the set but I have a 20 coupon. The PP are $99 for the set...so about the same price. Which is better for my application and which would you choose and why?

***Power Performance*** · 10-18-2009, 02:13 PM

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I know it's hard to believe, but our product is substantially better than the competition AND it usually costs less, too. With us, you're buying direct - with the other guy, you're often going through 2 or 3 levels of middle men before it gets to you. And the "other" manufacturer has race teams to sponsor, huge national advertising campaigns, and a fleet of private jets to pay for. Instead, we put all the money into the best product possible!

In general, you'll find that the competition uses cheaper steel - we use SAE4130 for the ball studs and SAE1045 for the housings. The housing are forged, whereas a lot of the "other" brands out there still use a flimsy, two-piece stamped housing.

Our stud pullout rating is between 60-100% stronger - meaning it takes almost twice the force to rip our ball stud out of the housing. And our studs have around 13 degrees less deflection in Stud Impact Testing (we screw the ball stud into a wall and slam a 110 lb sled into it, then measure how far the stud bends).

These numbers are for our stock-type ball joints. The numbers are considerably higher for the SuperTravels because we went a little overkill in the 2 years it took to develop and test them

01cherryreds10 · 10-20-2009, 10:55 PM

If you don't mind me asking in this thread Zack, will the stock-type ball joints affect ride quality in any way? $99 for a set of ball joints is pretty cheap!

Iroc-10 · 10-23-2009, 08:49 PM

Well no offense to Power Performance, but Moog has been around a Loooong time and has an excellent reputation.That's all I will run and NEVER had a problem. JMHO

Patawick · 10-28-2009, 01:26 AM

Ive never had a problem with my moog pjs

Dragonball98312 · 10-28-2009, 02:25 AM

I freaking loved the power performance ones i had on my bagged blazer and im now running a set on my lowered s15 and havnt had a single problem. Outstanding product

***Power Performance*** · 10-28-2009, 10:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 01cherryreds10

If you don't mind me asking in this thread Zack, will the stock-type ball joints affect ride quality in any way? $99 for a set of ball joints is pretty cheap!

I think there's some confusion here. The $99 deal is for SuperTravel uppers and our regular Power Performance lowers.

Our stock-type ball joints are around $80 for the uppers and lowers total. They will not affect ride quality at all.

10-16-2009, 10:38 PM	#1
stepsideSdime Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 195 Location: User is: OffLine	Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints Which is better and why should I buy. (are the power performance ball joints 2 SuperTravel Upper Ball Joints and FREE Lower Ball Joints made for bagged trucks or will they still work on my 4" drop of 2" spindles and 2" springs?
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10-16-2009, 10:40 PM	#2
S-10MASTER You can't say fuck Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,620 Location: 26.34°N 127.78°E -39.96Ft. User is: OffLine	Re: Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints They will still work. They are just designed so that you don't have to pie cut your uppers. If you feel like spending the money I say go for it.
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10-16-2009, 11:06 PM	#3
stepsideSdime Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 195 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints well.... the power performance are actually cheaper than the moog so what I'm asking is which is better. The moog are 125 for the set but I have a 20 coupon. The PP are $99 for the set...so about the same price. Which is better for my application and which would you choose and why?
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10-18-2009, 02:13 PM	#4
*Power Performance* Site Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 285 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I know it's hard to believe, but our product is substantially better than the competition AND it usually costs less, too. With us, you're buying direct - with the other guy, you're often going through 2 or 3 levels of middle men before it gets to you. And the "other" manufacturer has race teams to sponsor, huge national advertising campaigns, and a fleet of private jets to pay for. Instead, we put all the money into the best product possible! In general, you'll find that the competition uses cheaper steel - we use SAE4130 for the ball studs and SAE1045 for the housings. The housing are forged, whereas a lot of the "other" brands out there still use a flimsy, two-piece stamped housing. Our stud pullout rating is between 60-100% stronger - meaning it takes almost twice the force to rip our ball stud out of the housing. And our studs have around 13 degrees less deflection in Stud Impact Testing (we screw the ball stud into a wall and slam a 110 lb sled into it, then measure how far the stud bends). These numbers are for our stock-type ball joints. The numbers are considerably higher for the SuperTravels because we went a little overkill in the 2 years it took to develop and test them
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10-20-2009, 10:55 PM	#5
01cherryreds10 Former S10 enthusiast Age: 19 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,637 Location: Illinois User is: OffLine	Re: Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints If you don't mind me asking in this thread Zack, will the stock-type ball joints affect ride quality in any way? $99 for a set of ball joints is pretty cheap!
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10-23-2009, 08:49 PM	#6
Iroc-10 Registered User Age: 39 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 146 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints Well no offense to Power Performance, but Moog has been around a Loooong time and has an excellent reputation.That's all I will run and NEVER had a problem. JMHO
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10-28-2009, 01:26 AM	#7
Patawick Registered User Age: 19 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,112 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints Ive never had a problem with my moog pjs
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10-28-2009, 02:25 AM	#8
Dragonball98312 Super Saiyan User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 259 Location: Bremerton WA User is: OffLine	Re: Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints I freaking loved the power performance ones i had on my bagged blazer and im now running a set on my lowered s15 and havnt had a single problem. Outstanding product
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10-28-2009, 10:09 PM	#9
*Power Performance* Site Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 285 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Moog vs. Power Performance Ball Joints Quote: Originally Posted by 01cherryreds10 If you don't mind me asking in this thread Zack, will the stock-type ball joints affect ride quality in any way? $99 for a set of ball joints is pretty cheap! I think there's some confusion here. The $99 deal is for SuperTravel uppers and our regular Power Performance lowers. Our stock-type ball joints are around $80 for the uppers and lowers total. They will not affect ride quality at all.
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