10-27-2009, 12:36 PM
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4/6 drop question.. noob to static
my daily forever has been bagged for yrs so forgive me. i recently bought another s10 thats 2/3 static with 2" coils and 3" blocks and i have a spare set of 2" spindles and plan to purchase 3" drop leafs. my question is on stock xtreme wheels and 55 series tires is a 4/6 drop going to look uneven?? even tho its only inch difference?? like i said im used to driving a truck that lays and ride height is what i decide to be so forgive my ignorance if this post souds lame to you
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10-27-2009, 12:46 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
what size tires,(225/55/16 example)
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10-27-2009, 01:01 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
205/55 I believe. sry its been a while since i took them out of my garage. theyre kinda slam packed in the corner as of right now
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10-27-2009, 10:53 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
it might be a little ass heavy, but you could easily just go with a 2" block instead.
i was 5/6.5 and i was ass heavy, so i switched out the block. on my truck, 5/6 is exactly even |
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10-28-2009, 02:15 AM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
im not sure on the brand but i know the springs up front are aftermarket and I was thinking of cutting the top coil to hopefuly even it out.. thoughts???
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10-28-2009, 09:32 AM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
gimp dont take a chance on hacking a coil, i would just get a shorter block if it isnt even. blocks are like 20$ at the most
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10-28-2009, 10:05 AM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
I second that. I would NEVER cut coils.
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10-28-2009, 10:07 AM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
Spend the money on the correct part when it comes to your suspension, pretty much everything else can be fabricated or otherwise "hacked".  |
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10-28-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
ok then guess i'll be in the market for some 3" coils very soon then.. if anyone comes across this feel free to shoot me some PM's..
also i've heard some opinions on 4" blocks being too big a block to use. a friend of mine has a set of angled blocks i could get for dirt cheap any thoughts on this?? |
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10-28-2009, 12:19 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
Just for what it's worth my truck is running Stock sized Xtreme tires (235 55 r16) on X wheels with a 3/5 drop, 3" Beltech springs up front and Drop leaves + 2" blocks out back. Right now the back actually sits about an 1/8" lower than the front but to me that looks better than almost an inch higher. I'm planning on picking up some Air shocks in the not too distant future because I haul stuff all the time with my truck plus then I can pefectly level it out if I decide to get all OCD about it. For me the 2" difference worked out well, but the best way to tell if it is going to be uneven is to measure your current ride height and subtract the drop parts from the numbers. if the rear is going to be significantly lower just grab some 2" blocks, you can pick them up at most autoparts stores for like $20.
Here's a Pic of my truck for refrence...  |
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10-28-2009, 03:58 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
every truck will sit different tho. 1" difference is level for me.
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10-28-2009, 04:04 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
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10-28-2009, 04:13 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
take off a coil dude as long as you don't cut it less then 10.5 overall spring height , and get some decent shocks like nitro 2's a 5/6 would look nice.
all these people talkin about bad ride quality in what aspect? Last edited by s10pimpin209 : 10-28-2009 at 04:19 PM. |
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10-29-2009, 09:18 AM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
dude, if you hack off a part of a coil spring that was specifically designed to do a certain job you're taking away its performance at it maximum abilities. Cuttin a coil off will result in a bouncy ass ride no matter what shocks you try to add to the equation. This is only my opinion so take it or leave it. There might be someone out there that has done this successfully but I've never met him/her. |
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10-29-2009, 10:25 AM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
Alright I'm just going to throw this out there this is not directed at anyone specific but I just wanted to share my experence.
About 5...6 ish years ago I picked up a cheap little car to commute with, it was a turd and the person who owned it before me had lowered it with name brand parts and it rode like crap. It was so stiff it would actually get air over dips and bumps in the road. Well needless to say I just plain got tired of it and went down to the U-Wrench-It and grabbed some stock springs. Went home and stuck them on the car... As soon as I let the jack down I knew there was no way I could deal with such a high stance so I pulled them right back off and started cutting. I figured worse case scenario I can stick the other springs back on. So I cut them down one at a time and kept test fitting them until until I was happy with where the car was sitting. I then went on to drive this car for 4 years before I sold it. And you know what, it not only did it not ride like crap, it rode great... I had people with similiar cars who rode with me asking me where I got my suspension parts. It was always fun to tell them and watch their jaws drop especially when they had spent big bucks on their setups and I had all of $30 tied up in mine... And technically I actually made money on the deal if you count what I made off of selling the old parts. Long story short... A long time ago I was young dumb and I cut the springs on my old car... it rode fine for years and nothing exciting ever happened to it. Keep in mind this was not an S-10... it was not even vaguely close. An S-10's suspension might not be as forgiving as my old car's was. Either way I am not saying it is good to cut springs in general but in reality it's probably not going to kill you either. My only advice to anyone who is going to try cutting... have a back up plan in case you screw it up. I'll probably never cut a spring for an S-10, but I not going to stop someone else from doing it either. Still please believe I will point and laugh at you if you cut your springs and they crack in half or you cut too much off and there is no way to drive the truck anymore. That is all. |
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10-29-2009, 03:30 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
cutting your springs may ride nice and soft and some springs might be more forgiving than others.
but one of the added benefits of a drop spring is spring rate and stiffness. a drop coil rides hard like you said because it is stiffer to compensate for the height to be safe, but mostly handle better. |
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10-29-2009, 07:31 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
I dnt see whats wrong with cutting a coil,...
Cut one off my drop coils and it rides just fine. Not all stupid bumpy like people are saying, it feels liek every other drop coil to me, course shocks help. Again, I CUT MY DAM COILS AND SHIT RIDES FINE!!  |
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10-29-2009, 07:34 PM
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10-29-2009, 07:47 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
you see its all about how its done and how many you take off, you dont want your spring and shorter then 10.5 overall height( that basically 3 inch drop coil). on my truck i started off with the stock cut coils and spindles with some drop shocks with 22s it was great not bouncy or stiff, then bought the belltech i have now and no difference.
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10-29-2009, 10:34 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
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10-30-2009, 07:43 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
this is what I've done so far. Not sure what the measurments are.
I've bell tech spindled the front with a eibach short spring up front and used a slanted block and ubolts in the back. Need to find a better block setup for the back to lower a bit more or use a different leaf spring setup in the back. Anybody know where to find a leaf spring that will bring the rear down? |
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10-31-2009, 09:43 AM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
i have yrs of experience in suspensions and have used numerous products from crap to the highest priced, no name brands to the big time manufacturers on all sorts of makes and models.. so first off i can tell you that 1 i would never heat or cut stock springs and 2 whether its an A+ or C- aftermarket product theres only so much modification i allow myself to do..
when cutting a spring theres really only one way for it to back fire IMO.. ive never cut s10 springs before but yrs ago when being part of the acura/honda scene for quite sometime i had the best of the best.. full Tein suspension and i ended up taking the top coil off my front springs.. honda springs are more tightly coiled at the top. not sure if s10 springs are the same but in 3 yrs the spring never sagged a bit. an s10 is by far heavier than a honda but the springs load capacity is also greater.. only time i have ever experienced or heard of spring sag was when the spring was cut at the bottom where the coils start to have more gap between them.. now sure cutting numerous coils off a spring trying to slam ur vehicle is obviously stupid and that will not ever be done on my part, to my own or anyones vehicle i may know.. it just wont but to cut one coil off the TOP of an after market spring which is made with a higher quality than stock and designed specifically to lower a vehicle and also built stronger with stronger materials to handle the load of a vehicle at a smaller overall size does not intimidate me at all nor does it leave me feeling i may endanger myself or others from doing so.. we'll see what i end up doing for now im at a 2/3 drop with x wheels and 55 series tire. hopes are to get my drop down to a 5/6.. ive got everything i need and most already ordered.. only thing left undecided is whether to cut 2'' belltech spring or buy new 3'' springs.. we'll see what happens after i get the new spindles and 3" drop leafes on.. I'll post pics as i plan to start a new project thread for the truck once i begin work on it.. thanks for all the opinions guys |
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10-31-2009, 04:31 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
k good
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10-31-2009, 04:31 PM
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Re: 4/6 drop question.. noob to static
and s10 springs have the same coil width the whole length of the shock btw
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