E-test

[slvrs10]

Well, I went for one yesterday. Boy, was I nervous.

I'm running a custom 2.25" y-pipe merged into a 3" in/out Magnaflow highflow cat, into a 2.5" in/out Spintech Prostreet muffler, straight dumped about a foot back from the cab. Pretty much a one way ticket to Failtown.

I had to hold the probe to what little tailpipe I had. And holy shit, was it ever loud in the bay. At 40km/h the drone and whine from the tires on the rollers was intense.

BUT, I did pass. I told the guy doing the test I was happily surprised I wouldn't have to swap cats and come back. He laughed.

Then backing the truck out of the bay, he scrubbed my front tires on the shocks so damn hard before I could get to him. The black semi circle on the silver shocks is huge now lol.


So, for any of you out there in the same boat as me, you might be ok.

[v8 sonoma]

nice! here if you dont have a tail pipe that reaches to the back or side for the tube its a automatic fail. Reminds me i got to get my 99 sonoma tested this month. they just plug in to the computer and check the emission system make sure its all working right and no codes set. funny thing no cat on the truck OBD2 never noticed, been 2 years and no codes. haha.

[Firm]

sweet man. I am an emission tester....and if I was having a bad day I probably woulda told you to go home and rig up some kinda temporary tailpipe - technically we're not suppose to test anything without a full tailpipe. However on a good day I probably woulda tested it. I am not surprised that it passed, it's pretty rare that one of these things fail...I've tested a number of bagged trucks, and tons of old beaters and I don't remember ever failing a 2nd gen s10 as long as the engine is running right and you have a somewhat effective cat it'll pass(for these trucks at least).

[~02DIME~]

^^ Run your truck as mine if ya don't mind, I need an etest and have an evap code, FML. Damn E-test are a pain in the ass.

[Draggintoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by ~02DIME~

^^ Run your truck as mine if ya don't mind, I need an etest and have an evap code, FML. Damn E-test are a pain in the ass.

whats an evap code have to do with running the test. hell my truck had a egr code and it still passed a etest

[~02DIME~]

really I heard if its throwin a code its an instant fail

[tt85_GM]

such a cash grab, damn government.

[Lo-noma]

**** do i have to get an e-test this year seeing as mines a 99?

[Innis]

When I got my etest with my truck bagged I got my buddy to do it and we had to jimmy rig the probe to the tailpipe just so we could do the test, bungee cords always come in handy haha

[Firm]

engine codes are not an instant failure....tons of cars pass with engine codes. Evap code might just be a bad gas cap too.

[Lo-noma]

how do u know when u need to get a e-test? isnt it like every three years or something?

[~02DIME~]

when you get the form to get your new sticker it tells you there, think you'll need one next year

[Innis]

Quote: Originally Posted by ~02DIME~

when you get the form to get your new sticker it tells you there, think you'll need one next year

ya it will tell you when you need to renew you plates, but i think its like odd yr vehicles need an etest on even yrs and even yr vehicles need etests on odd yrs

[Draggintoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Firm

engine codes are not an instant failure....tons of cars pass with engine codes. Evap code might just be a bad gas cap too.

true story, this man here did my etest on my taco with a egr code and it passed

[Pavementnazi]

Quote: Originally Posted by tt85_GM

such a cash grab, damn government.

I disagree...keeps the shite boxes off the roads and driveway mechanics out of our engines. I had a issue with my 4.3 not passing. Turns out SeaFoam smoked my cat and blew out all my platinum, palladium and rhodium. The old cat when I removed it looked like a hunk of ceramic. New Magnaflo cat in and passed with flying colors! Gone are the days of smoking cars on our hiways.

As for the cash grab? The Drive clean facilities are getting screwed. They have a huge investment in this and make very little in return to maintain and update. The MTO just sucks!

Just my 2 1/2 cents....

[slvrs10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pavementnazi

I disagree...keeps the shite boxes off the roads and driveway mechanics out of our engines. I had a issue with my 4.3 not passing. Turns out SeaFoam smoked my cat and blew out all my platinum, palladium and rhodium. The old cat when I removed it looked like a hunk of ceramic. New Magnaflo cat in and passed with flying colors! Gone are the days of smoking cars on our hiways.

As for the cash grab? The Drive clean facilities are getting screwed. They have a huge investment in this and make very little in return to maintain and update. The MTO just sucks!

Just my 2 1/2 cents....

I've seen more shit boxes spewing smoke and fumes on Ottawa roads than I can shake a stick at. Clearly, they're doing something wrong.

[Firm]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pavementnazi

I disagree...keeps the shite boxes off the roads and driveway mechanics out of our engines. I had a issue with my 4.3 not passing. Turns out SeaFoam smoked my cat and blew out all my platinum, palladium and rhodium. The old cat when I removed it looked like a hunk of ceramic. New Magnaflo cat in and passed with flying colors! Gone are the days of smoking cars on our hiways.

As for the cash grab? The Drive clean facilities are getting screwed. They have a huge investment in this and make very little in return to maintain and update. The MTO just sucks!

Just my 2 1/2 cents....

This guy is half right.....Drive clean facilities do get screwed. The max we are allowed to charge is $35+gst. The government takes $11.67 right off of that for themselves...That leaves us with about $23 per test to cover our expenses, equipment costs, employees, rent, etc,etc.....The equipment we use is very expensive and we are only allowed to use government approved suppliers...Plus there is a monthly maintence cost that isn't cheap either - basically we make no money......The government on the other hand gets their 12 bucks per test.

As far as getting the shit boxes off the road go....I've seen improvements, but not enough. What I have seen recently is people calling in to the MTO(or MTE) when they see a smoking car on the road, that person is then forced to get a test. Alot of the original loopholes in the program have also been fixed, but what I think will stay is the $450 repair cost limit.....and although I see it's merit, it really just gives anyone with an old junker a simple way to keep it on the road....and usually(almost always) for alot less than $450.

[Draggintoy]

i hate the fact they got rid of the 20 year rule. was soo forward to not having to test the yota. And as for the seafoam killing your cat..never seen that one before. but i do know chev had a huge problem with faulty cats. i've replaced many.

[Pavementnazi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Draggintoy

i hate the fact they got rid of the 20 year rule. was soo forward to not having to test the yota. And as for the seafoam killing your cat..never seen that one before. but i do know chev had a huge problem with faulty cats. i've replaced many.

Mine was already replaced two years ago...I suspect the Seafoam overwelmed the cat and it went from super hot to cold which must have stripped of the plating. It was a aftermarket Magnaflow. Same one I reinstalled now.

Tomas

[Pavementnazi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Firm

This guy is half right.....Drive clean facilities do get screwed. The max we are allowed to charge is $35+gst. The government takes $11.67 right off of that for themselves...That leaves us with about $23 per test to cover our expenses, equipment costs, employees, rent, etc,etc.....The equipment we use is very expensive and we are only allowed to use government approved suppliers...Plus there is a monthly maintence cost that isn't cheap either - basically we make no money......The government on the other hand gets their 12 bucks per test.

As far as getting the shit boxes off the road go....I've seen improvements, but not enough. What I have seen recently is people calling in to the MTO(or MTE) when they see a smoking car on the road, that person is then forced to get a test. Alot of the original loopholes in the program have also been fixed, but what I think will stay is the $450 repair cost limit.....and although I see it's merit, it really just gives anyone with an old junker a simple way to keep it on the road....and usually(almost always) for alot less than $450.

Firm...its Tom here...guess you dont remeber me.....

Ive heard horror stories regarding smaller ETest shops fugging the results of the test. And fly by night outfits passing cars that should have been pulled off the road.
Plus the test is every two years so lots can happen between now and the next test.
I can honestly say its nice not to see those flippen Mitsubishi equipped Caravans blowing blue smoke in the air. Havent seen one for a Looonng time. As for the shit boxes running around in Ottawa? Probably ****ing polititians...most probably NDP :-)

I looked into dropping a V8 into my Sonoma. I was told if I did this there was a "Hot Rod" Class they would etest my vehical under? Is this True?

Tomas

[AM0608]

Yes they consider a "Hot-Rod vehicle" as any vehicle that is equipped with an engine that was not available from the manufacturer in that model, ever.

[Pavementnazi]

Hotrod...."Excellent"!

[Firm]

Quote: Originally Posted by AM0608

Yes they consider a "Hot-Rod vehicle" as any vehicle that is equipped with an engine that was not available from the manufacturer in that model, ever.

True....You've GOTTA have some kinda documentation(even if you write it up yourself) that the drive clean facility can photocopy to cover their asses when the governement calls us and asks why we tested a vehicle as a hotrod.....Yes, they will....Like I said, they've really tightened up.

Tom, I remeber meeting you, I just didn't remeber your name, sorry. lol

And yes there were plenty of small shops that used to fake tests.....but the government kinda made an example of a couple places(250k fine + jail time) and I haven't heard of anything like that since.

Alot of the car you see blowing smoke do pass e-tests b/c they only blow on acceleration....the test gets readings at speed...so once a chrysler 2.7 gets up to a stabil speed it can still pass even if it blows on accleration...Stupid yes, but true.

[v8 sonoma]

Do they do the sniffer test to all years in ontario? anything newer then 96 out here with OBD2 justs plugged in check for codes and readyness monitors. I got raped for $45 today to get mine tested. passed with a gutted cat and blocked egr.

[Firm]

Everything newer than 88 gets a sniffer test every 2 years....Except cars 5 years old and newer - they only need it for change of ownership.

[Pavementnazi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Firm

True....You've GOTTA have some kinda documentation(even if you write it up yourself) that the drive clean facility can photocopy to cover their asses when the governement calls us and asks why we tested a vehicle as a hotrod.....Yes, they will....Like I said, they've really tightened up.

Tom, I remeber meeting you, I just didn't remeber your name, sorry. lol

And yes there were plenty of small shops that used to fake tests.....but the government kinda made an example of a couple places(250k fine + jail time) and I haven't heard of anything like that since.

Alot of the car you see blowing smoke do pass e-tests b/c they only blow on acceleration....the test gets readings at speed...so once a chrysler 2.7 gets up to a stabil speed it can still pass even if it blows on accleration...Stupid yes, but true.

Great expanation...now I understand. You come by CDN tire ate winston Churchill and Dundas after 8 pm sundays Firm? Ill be ther with my son's cobalt club meet.

[Firm]

I don't normally....least not recently, however I might come by now that I know theres something going on.