wynjammer and other 1/4 mile drag times

[s106banger]

so lately ive been thorwing around the idea of superchargering my truck for spring and then doing a cam and heads next summer sometime. i've been searching for 2 days now and cant find any track times for the wynjammer. i dont know that i want just 6 pounds of boost. has anyone got times?

i'd like low 14's with the stuff i have now and the wynjammer, possibly high 13's. and 13's for sure with the heads and cam. think its possible?

97 reg cab short bed w/94k
current mods:
edelbrock tes
2.5" catback
hpp3
underdrive pullies (theyd have to go)
e-fan
it will have 4.10's and posi by this fall too

also i wouldnt mind hearing the times for other kits, like powerdyne, vortech, mach...mostly times with a straight bolt on kit.

thanks!

[s106banger]

nothing..?

[King_Ice_Flash2]

Got me, the only thing I could find was a dyno sheet. I would think mid 14's would be a fair estimate. Low 14's/high 13's with cam/head work would be pretty easy.

[12sws27]

I have a Jammer on a 4dr Blazer. No track times or dynos though, sorry. I think with your mods in that truck in the vids low 14's is very obtainable. But I'm not a racing expert or anything so I could be wrong. I can tell you I'm very happy with it and the Jammer is the only real HP mod I have so far. My mods or in my sig.

This kid recently bought a jammer and posted some vids on s10planet. He has headers, exhaust mods, e-fan. I'm pretty sure he has the factory gears though.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Supercharged-S10-speedo_179231.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Supercharged-S10-take-off_179619.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Supercharged-S10-fly-by_179622.htm

I have a 98 2dr jimmy I'm gonna switch every thing over to. I plan on running 4.10's in it I think the lower gears will be a big help. I did read a thread awhile back were a guy claimed he got a 14.2 on his g-tech (4 whatever thats worth). All he had besides the Jammer was Edelbrock headers if I remember right

[s106banger]

when i searched thats the only thing i saw too. i wasnt to impressed with it.
thanks for looking.

[s106banger]

i like those videos. they put a smile on my face

from what i hear, gears are a huge up grade and you can totally feel a difference.

know of anyone selling a used kit? or if they pop up from time to time on s10 planet?

[12sws27]

Ive only seen one for sale and that was quite awhile ago. The powerdyne's and vortechs pop up every now and again on ebay though. Why not just buy one new. Al's a great guy and will stand behind it I promise you that. I had problems with my Jammer which I believe had a bit to do with me over-tightening the belt and Al fixed my blower no questions asked. $2600 isn't that bad and you get a 2 yr warranty.

[12sws27]

Oh well I guess you can place a WTB add here and then hop over there and do the same. Maybe theres some one that got one that I dont know about.

[Dogsofjune]

Most with the Powerdynes and Wynjammers are a bit skittish about posting dyno sheets.
It's an improvement by far over stock, just not as much as is hoped for some.
Remember, the more air, the more fuel you need.

[King_Ice_Flash2]

Let me know if you are selling your pulleys.

[s106banger]

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

Ive only seen one for sale and that was quite awhile ago. The powerdyne's and vortechs pop up every now and again on ebay though. Why not just buy one new. Al's a great guy and will stand behind it I promise you that. I had problems with my Jammer which I believe had a bit to do with me over-tightening the belt and Al fixed my blower no questions asked. $2600 isn't that bad and you get a 2 yr warranty.

i figured 2700 with the bypass valve and shipping...

thats the reason i like the wynjammer, the 2 year warranty. the truck does, and will see plenty of track use. i also dig the simple design, if i for some reason decide to go N/A after i buy the supercharger, theres no holes in my oil pan or anything like that.

[s106banger]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dogsofjune

Most with the Powerdynes and Wynjammers are a bit skittish about posting dyno sheets.
It's an improvement by far over stock, just not as much as is hoped for some.
Remember, the more air, the more fuel you need.

hopefully one day ill do the marine intake or the 2114 or the stealth ram. but that one day maybe years away... so low boost maybe the best for now too.

[s106banger]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2

Let me know if you are selling your pulleys.

will do. less then 1k on them too.

[12sws27]

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2
Let me know if you are selling your pulleys

.
Damn it! You slick f*%ker. You did it to me again! LOL

Quote: Originally Posted by s106banger

will do. less then 1k on them too.

If King doesnt get them I'll buy them

[s106banger]

you need to chill....

[King_Ice_Flash2]

[12sws27]

King knows what im talking about. Its all in fun. There was another guy in another forum that was talking about getting a jammer. I never think about asking about the pulley's untill I read him asking.

Same thing happened to me when I posted about buying a Jammer. Its like a flock of buzzards. LOL.

Get used to it. LOL

[s106banger]

after reading your reaction i literally Laughed Out Loud. you cant use the pullies right? are you putting them on another truck?

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by s106banger

after reading your reaction i literally Laughed Out Loud. you cant use the pullies right? are you putting them on another truck?

Yeah, I have a 4dr with the jammer on it. I just bought a 2dr. I'm going to take the Jammer off the 4dr and put it on the 2dr. I wanna do just the basic things to free up some HP on the 4dr and leave it alone.
Then I'll make the 2dr a little more radical. Lower gear, posi, meth injection, bla bla bla.... IDK yet really.

[s106banger]

are you taking that one to the track eventually?

[12sws27]

When I get done with the 2dr you mean? Maybe... but that would probably be along way off if ever. My 4dr just FYI is about 500lbs heavier that a short bed reg cab. So I'd be really lucky to get a low 15 probably.

[s106banger]

i figured my truck for 3150lbs.

i was checking out a few things to use with a supercharger. what coil do most people use? i checked out an accel one pn acc-140024 at summit. and any idea were to get poly motor mounts at?

[12sws27]

Thats the coil I'm using. Alot of guy including Al suggest the MSD Blaster coil. IDK the PN#. I'm using these mounts. I havent installed them yet.
http://bajacustoms.com/suspension.html

[s106banger]

hey look what i found!!!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...S10_180174.htm

that kid went to the track. 14.5. with headers, cat-back, an e-fan and the wynjammer right? with gears it should def be a low 14.

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by s106banger

hey look what i found!!!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...S10_180174.htm

that kid went to the track. 14.5. with headers, cat-back, an e-fan and the wynjammer right? with gears it should def be a low 14.

Yeah he has a Jammer. He said he removed his e-fan cause it wasnt cooling good enough. He's on s10planet.

Check out the thread:
http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15158

[12sws27]

Hey... wait a minute... I posted those vids in post #4! LOL

[s106banger]

you didnt post the one of him going to the track.

and after reading the thread on s10planet, i think i might do it. i think high 13's are completely relistic with bolt ons and the jammer. im over about halfway were i need to be to get to the point for spring money wise. this could work! im excited!

[12sws27]

If you watch the vid real good you can see that when he leaves the line there's a red light on the tree. I've never went to the track but doesnt that mean he jumped the light?

[02_Black_XBlazer]

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

Thats the coil I'm using. Alot of guy including Al suggest the MSD Blaster coil. IDK the PN#.

http://www.msdignition.com/product.aspx?id=5073

pn is 8231, it's a direct replacement for our (4.3) coils, I'm running it right now. The rivets need to be drilled out of the bracket. The coil includes new bolts, bolts right into bracket. The years they claim it works for are all over the map depending on who you talk to, but it fits in all '96 and up Vortec 4.3s.

[03xs10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

If you watch the vid real good you can see that when he leaves the line there's a red light on the tree. I've never went to the track but doesnt that mean he jumped the light?

Just means he red lighted, his tires crossed the beams before green, the time starts when your tires cross the beam, so red lighting will not affect your 1/4 time.

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by 97_S-10SS

http://www.msdignition.com/product.aspx?id=5073

pn is 8231, it's a direct replacement for our (4.3) coils, I'm running it right now. The rivets need to be drilled out of the bracket. The coil includes new bolts, bolts right into bracket. The years they claim it works for are all over the map depending on who you talk to, but it fits in all '96 and up Vortec 4.3s.

thats not the one I had in mind.
look here: http://store.summitracing.com/compare.asp?N=700+4294925143+4294890813+4294908216 +400122+115&Nao=0&Nu=P%5FSKU&Ns=P%5FRank%7C0

The first msd PN#8226 is the one recommended. The one you posted (8232) is not as strong as the accel 140024 which I have or the 8226. You need to make sure you get good spark when boosted. Good coil, smaller gap on the plugs, and some 8mm wires(I like the Taylor wires). Reason I didnt go with the msd is the accel was cheaper when you take in to consideration, you dont need to by one of these:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=MSD-8876 (NOTE: I'm not 100% sure its the adapter needed)

Of course if you wanna splice your wires then the price isn't really that much of a difference between the 8226 MSD and the Accel 140024. I didnt want to spice mine and the accel when compared with the blaster its the same sh!t.

The the 8232 is the most expensive and weakest of the 3. Would it be my chioce if I was bone stock.

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by 03xs10

Just means he red lighted, his tires crossed the beams before green, the time starts when your tires cross the beam, so red lighting will not affect your 1/4 time.

Oh. It would effect his reaction time though right? I'm not 100% confident in this guys honesty.

Because of this thread here:
http://www.s10planet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14293

Read it and you'll see what im talking about. Although this time it seems like his ET's are more accurate with his mods.

[s106banger]

i read the thread he made about that 13.9 slip. that made me mad. i believe him this time. 03xs10 is right about the red lighting. the time is still acurate, but if he were bracket racing he would have lost it all. you need to go to the track...

[s106banger]

just got a done making a list of things i think i should do before i buy the supercharger.

-poly motor and trans mounts
-highflow water pump (pretty sure mines on its way out anyways)
-160* t-stat
-accel coil (not set in stone)
-intake manifold gasket set
-NGK TR55's
-new belt tensioner
-longer sper. belt
-stock replacement venom fuel pump
-and some paint.

what do ya think? anything im missing?

[12sws27]

The kit will have a longer belt. So save your money there.
Get some good wires if you dont already have some.
You wont need that HPP anymore unless you want it to scan DTC's. You can tell All your getting 4:10's and he'll have PCMforless program the new(used) PCM for it. A programmed on comes with the kit.

If you have an automatic they will raise shift points and firm up the shifts. If you plan on ever getting a shift kit, ask them not to firm up the shifts. If you are interested in a shift kit, trans go is the sh1t!

[s106banger]

i have taylor wires. i took off my a/c and i didnt use the delete pulley. i plan on cutting the bracket some too. i wanted a clean look. im sure the belt Al includes is to long. i need like an 85" belt, i think. i have an 80.5" belt on now with the underdrive pullies.

i dont know when im going to rip into my trany. prob not for a awhile, unless i blow it up.

now i have 3 sets of wheels for my truck at this point, and i plan to get one more. can i still use the hpp3 to change the speedo?

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by s106banger

can i still use the hpp3 to change the speedo?

yes.

[s106banger]

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

yes.

and it wont screw with the tuning at all? promise?

[rentedmule]

The HPP3 may not work on a PCM that's been modified like the one that comes with the wynjammer. You can always try, it'll probably just give you an error in the startup screen when it's scanning your VIN if it doesn't like the reprogrammed computer.

[03xs10]

That kid got owned.

[12sws27]

Quote:

Quote: Originally Posted by s106banger
and it wont screw with the tuning at all? promise?

It shouldnt. No promises

Quote:

Quote: Originally Posted by rentedmule The HPP3 may not work on a PCM that's been modified like the one that comes with the wynjammer. You can always try, it'll probably just give you an error in the startup screen when it's scanning your VIN if it doesn't like the reprogrammed computer.

Mule makes a good point. X2

Quote:

Quote: Originally Posted by 03xs10 That kid got owned.

F%#K yeah he did!

[rob8284]

Quote: Originally Posted by rentedmule

The HPP3 may not work on a PCM that's been modified like the one that comes with the wynjammer. You can always try, it'll probably just give you an error in the startup screen when it's scanning your VIN if it doesn't like the reprogrammed computer.

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

...Mule makes a good point. X2...

As long as your original PCM is put back to stock with the HPP3, the HPP3 should be able to read a reprogrammed PCM. I don't think it cares whether or not it's been reprogrammed as long as it doesn't have a stock file saved on it. I could be wrong, but I think that's how it works.

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by rob8284

As long as your original PCM is put back to stock with the HPP3, the HPP3 should be able to read a reprogrammed PCM. I don't think it cares whether or not it's been reprogrammed as long as it doesn't have a stock file saved on it. I could be wrong, but I think that's how it works.

Rob.....? Have I ever told you that that Jimmy in your avatar looks pretty kick ass? No.... well it does.

[s106banger]

i dont think i would try it, just to be safe. i thought about it and i dont think i would like to send my pcm out to have it programed just because i wanted my speedo right. know what i mean?

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by s106banger

i dont think i would try it, just to be safe. i thought about it and i dont think i would like to send my pcm out to have it programed just because i wanted my speedo right. know what i mean?

Yeah I know what ya mean. I just sold mine cause I wanted the extra money for other stuff. I got 200 for mine I

[King_Ice_Flash2]

that's whacked, I listed mine for $60, and no one even replied.

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2

that's whacked, I listed mine for $60, and no one even replied.

I'm lucky like that I guess. I sold it on here too. I also gave the guy my honest opinion about it. I dont have a very high opinion on them BTW. It sold for somewhere around 200 shipped, might of been a little less. Don't remember exactly. Of corse I still feel I got rip when I bought it new. For the price I paid for that HPP3 new, I bought a good scanner that I can monitor the senors while driving, remove DTC's and all kinds of other stuff and bought a Trango shift kit w/vette servo.

[rob8284]

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

Rob.....? Have I ever told you that that Jimmy in your avatar looks pretty kick ass? No.... well it does.

Thanks, it's come a long way.

By the way, mine isn't a Wynjammer (custom build Vortech set up by me), but I'm pulling mid 14's on 5psi in my 4000lb Jimmy with a best 60ft of 1.98s.

Quote: Originally Posted by s106banger

i dont think i would try it, just to be safe. i thought about it and i dont think i would like to send my pcm out to have it programed just because i wanted my speedo right. know what i mean?

I would still send it out to get a "real" tune instead of the HPP3 if your going to do some major mods. The HPP3 should still be able to change tire size, gear ratio, tranny specs.

[s106banger]

:d....