twin turbo or supercharge??

[1sikdyme]

been thinkin bout buildin my motor for a supercharger but i never seen a twin turbo s10 v8. i know it's gonna have a lotta problems as far a fittin everything into the engine bay. not much room for the turbo, intercooler, etc. question is...which one? and what are all the ups and downs of a turbo and a supercharger. i know about turbo imers and boost controllers. the thing is how much can you upgrade a supercharger?? aside from pulleys.

[s10ls]

i think you should do twin turbos and a supercharger

seriously though there are plenty of TT v8 dimes at turbomustangs.com, i suggest you go there and read, dont post because the guys over there dont treat you to well if you post stupid questions and dont use the search feature. if you cant find all the info you need through search, which you should, then post.

just a heads up

[Bad Dad]

just drop a Grand National V6 turbo and you will have room under the hood.

[1sikdyme]

never seen that site before. i never really seen a twin turbo s10 with any kinda motor under the hood. that idea is just so i'd do something "different". i already have the block so i can't go with the v6.

[Bootylicious]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1sikdyme

been thinkin bout buildin my motor for a supercharger but i never seen a twin turbo s10 v8. i know it's gonna have a lotta problems as far a fittin everything into the engine bay. not much room for the turbo, intercooler, etc. question is...which one? and what are all the ups and downs of a turbo and a supercharger. i know about turbo imers and boost controllers. the thing is how much can you upgrade a supercharger?? aside from pulleys.

now you have.

[The Blown Blazer]

lol I love these retard threads

You need 2 of these turbos:

[1sikdyme]

point f this thread was the fact that i was thinkin about doing something i haven't really seen. if you think it's a retarded thread then don't reply...don't even click on it. it's retarded but yet.. you have to say something. that's like the retard kid that calls you dumb yet you feel you have to say something.


anyways.. shits sik lookin. wwas lookin into building something i haven't seen but if there's a shit load of em runnin around then i aint worried about it. i'll figure something else out.

[12sws27]

I seen a twin centrifigul S/C Nova in HotRodMag once.

[12sws27]

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl.../photo_01.html

[1sikdyme]

i've seen that nova before. the intercoolers are in the fenders. that one bad nova. i remember the fact that it's a straight sleeper. body has dents...bt runs like hell.

[12sws27]

I want it.

Quote:

"Power: It makes 1,160 hp at 7,500 rpm and 825 lb-ft of torque."

^^^ retarded power!

[12sws27]

I say do what ever you want and can do.

[1sikdyme]

retard power is an understatement.

i'm probably goin to go with the procharger dsc-1. keep hearing abotu it and now that i wiegh the pros n cons there's a lot more to maintaining a turbo not to mention 2 than a supercharger.


i heard they have a superturbocharger for the minicooper. uses a s/c to build up the turbos.

[cs xtreme]

twin turbo ftw!
or twin rotrex sc's

[1sikdyme]

still debating. i know there are alotta bagged s10's and a lotta sbc s10s. lokin for something i can do that no one has done. aside from throwin in a 13b rotary. still throwin around ideas.

[bitchin sonoma]

i say supercharge it.

[2000extemeturbo]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2Lo4aFatHoe

Wow, I'm in love. Looks like it's time for some research.

[pittsburghtrucker]

id go twin turbo cause im gonna do it to a 383 stroker for my s10

[1badzq8]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1sikdyme

still debating. i know there are alotta bagged s10's and a lotta sbc s10s. lokin for something i can do that no one has done. aside from throwin in a 13b rotary. still throwin around ideas.

how bout a bagged/bodydropped, twin supercharged 454 with twin sts turbos... you know since we are talkin about things you probably wont do

[bitchin sonoma]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1badzq8

how bout a bagged/bodydropped, twin supercharged 454 with twin sts turbos... you know since we are talkin about things you probably wont do

yeah, that would be awesome.

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1badzq8

how bout a bagged/bodydropped, twin supercharged 454 with twin sts turbos... you know since we are talkin about things you probably wont do

With Gullwing doors?

[2LO4SNO]

single turbo

[1badzq8]

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

With Gullwing doors?

suicide gullwings so they open down

[1sikdyme]

still in debate wit this one...depends how much i can get out of it and what comp ratio i need to run to keep it safe but put some power into it. want it to stand up. if i did twin turbo it'll be sequential.

[therule546]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1badzq8

suicide gullwings so they open down

Just gonna say thatd be fcking sick If you could build the door panel with stairs in it, and it could support 200+ pounds.

[12sws27]

Quote: Originally Posted by therule546

Just gonna say thatd be fcking sick If you could build the door panel with stairs in it, and it could support 200+ pounds.

OMG! I was just thinking the same thing! Well almost..Suicide Gullwings that work as ramps to help you get in and out your truck. Didn't think about steps though....I think ya got something there.

[1badzq8]

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

OMG! I was just thinking the same thing! Well almost..Suicide Gullwings that work as ramps to help you get in and out your truck. Didn't think about steps though....I think ya got something there.

but steps are not wheelchair accessible

[deircr3]

it really depends what u want like a turbo is fun but if u want power there right away go with the supercharger

[danssoslow]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1badzq8

suicide gullwings so they open down

Screw that. Do them up; and with that kinda power, he could fly like this guy:

[s10ls]

Quote: Originally Posted by deircr3

it really depends what u want like a turbo is fun but if u want power there right away go with the supercharger

[cs xtreme]

Quote: Originally Posted by deircr3

it really depends what u want like a turbo is fun but if u want power there right away go with the supercharger

if it has lag then you dont know how to drive it.

[12sws27]

How bout reverse lambos?

[1sikdyme]

... thinkin about goin with turbos that spool up at about 3000 and 4000 rpm. stall converter is gonna be a 3000 stall so it'll already have one spooled up.

[s10ls]

wait you want to run twins with two different size turbos? are you going to run them in series with one feeding the other?

this thread is getting more and more funny

[chevy262]

Quote:

"Power: It makes 1,160 hp at 7,500 rpm and 825 lb-ft of torque."

My first question is why a twin turbo? My second question is how much is your budget? If this is the kind of power you're looking for, you could very well build a big block with all forged internals and run it on methanol for results like that. It'd be much cheaper.

hp/tq numbers only go so far, I see no need for more than 600hp/tq below 6500 rpm for street driving. If you need more power it's going to be hard to put on the pavement from stop. Hell, it's hard to put 300 tq. on the ground in a rwd truck.

It isn't fun to build a 20,000$ engine/drivetrain to get waxed by a 3500$ backyard build. But it is fun the other way around...JMO

Fun car/truck = speed - $$$$... the more $$ the less fun no matter how fast it is.

[Restoration]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1badzq8

suicide gullwings so they open down

^ had me laughing quite a bit.

The man above speaks quite a bit of truth. There is not to much you can do "that hasn't been done" Just build something to have fun with, that isn't going to get way out of control budget wise.

[1sikdyme]

Quote: Originally Posted by s10ls

wait you want to run twins with two different size turbos? are you going to run them in series with one feeding the other?

this thread is getting more and more funny

the point would be one turbo to run give the motor a boost until the second one kicks in. supras do it all the time. it's called sequential turbo. the point is to reduce lag of the second one yet when the truck sits ready to launch it's gonna have the other one spooled up already.

[1sikdyme]

Quote: Originally Posted by chevy262

My first question is why a twin turbo? My second question is how much is your budget? If this is the kind of power you're looking for, you could very well build a big block with all forged internals and run it on methanol for results like that. It'd be much cheaper.

hp/tq numbers only go so far, I see no need for more than 600hp/tq below 6500 rpm for street driving. If you need more power it's going to be hard to put on the pavement from stop. Hell, it's hard to put 300 tq. on the ground in a rwd truck.

It isn't fun to build a 20,000$ engine/drivetrain to get waxed by a 3500$ backyard build. But it is fun the other way around...JMO

Fun car/truck = speed - $$$$... the more $$ the less fun no matter how fast it is.

i don't see many twin turbo s10s. hell i've never eseen any til the pick that was posted. see a lot with build 4.3s see too many bagged s10s. not really worried about somehting that seriously has "never" been done but something that not too many people see everyday. i haven't gone to a show and seen a twin turbo v8 s10. as far as money goes i'm takin my time rite now. i have another thing that i'm workin on that's almost done and when that's done i'll i'll start buildin the v8. yeah i understand a 40,000 dollar car can get stomped by a backyard built 3,000 dollar car.

[1sikdyme]

here we can't edit our post after 10 mins...so here.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/peter.b...ips/turbos.htm

[Daveman2]

Supercharged and turbo engines are used alot in rally to kind of use the best of both worlds, the S/c takes the low end and up top it gets nasty boost from both

[s10ls]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1sikdyme

the point would be one turbo to run give the motor a boost until the second one kicks in. supras do it all the time. it's called sequential turbo. the point is to reduce lag of the second one yet when the truck sits ready to launch it's gonna have the other one spooled up already.

i know what it is, no need to explain. incase you cant tell i have more than my fair share of first hand experience with turbos on these trucks

i still think you should do sequential turbos with a roots blower and a 100 shot of nitrous, with the gullwing doors. and paint it pink and i guarantee it will be the only one of its kind

[1sikdyme]

Quote: Originally Posted by s10ls

i know what it is, no need to explain. incase you cant tell i have more than my fair share of first hand experience with turbos on these trucks

i still think you should do sequential turbos with a roots blower and a 100 shot of nitrous, with the gullwing doors. and paint it pink and i guarantee it will be the only one of its kind

my bad man. so use to people bein a*ses on other forums. didn't know how to take what you said. i may paint it pink. but that color was already taken by a mustang. so i'm lookin for purple or maybe even orange. don't really care of it being the only one of kind. i leave that to sum people like you. i'd rather build my truck, have fun, and drag race the hell outta it. and yeah i can tell you have pretty good experience cuz you asked if i was gonna run one feeding into the other. sequential turbo has a valve that changes the exhaust from one turbo to the next at a certain rpm. not one turbo feedin into another...but you know more about that then i do. yeah...i see your experience. if your gonna be a smart a*s do it. but not with me. i came here for suggestions not to hear b.s.

[s10ls]

this forum is full of smart asses, i'd get used to it if you wanna stick around lol

[1sikdyme]

yeah...i usually am at times. it's cool. had a bad day yesterday workin with some serious retard that don't know sh*t. but i am thinkin about sequential. but if i can get the same power with less money from a supercharger why not. eventually wanna just run the sh*t outta the truck.

[bitchin sonoma]

so what set up are you going with?

[1sikdyme]

not entirely sure still. twin turbo won the polls so i'm leanin towards that one. i'ma price each one. plus find out the outcomes of other people with the set up that have done both on 383 strokers.

[1fast4by]

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Please!

[philntx]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2000extemeturbo

Wow, I'm in love. Looks like it's time for some research.

This one doesn't exist anymore. It was the Lingenfelter Sonoma project

[Bootylicious]

here is another shot of that motor:

[mr spree]

oooooo nice