Supercharger Thread

Dougget · 01-23-2006, 04:06 PM

I'm a newbe doing some research on superchargers for the 4.3L V6. Thought it would be a good idea to start a SC thread to gather some current info. I'd like to stick with a kit (newbe) to keep it simple.

Stuff I'm looking for:
Brand.
Model #.
Boost.
HP Gain.
Price / Vendor.
What years will it fit.
Complexity of install (oil lines vs no oil lines for example).
ECU (New one in kit, reprogram stock unit).
Additional Items needed or recommended (ie, fuel pump, injectors, ignition, etc).

That should get me started. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I learn more about the available options.

Thank you,
Doug

gutlesswonder · 01-23-2006, 04:16 PM

try using the search feature it will give you the answers to all of the questions you asked . i only state that becasue this has been posted a million times so all you need to do is search rather than make people post the info xxxxx times

Dougget · 01-23-2006, 04:48 PM

Gutlesswonder,

I did do some searching, and I did find some info here, and some info there. My goal with this thread was to try to compile all current info in one place.

Good idea, let's do it.
Bad idea, please delete this thread.

Later,
Doug

rat · 01-23-2006, 05:09 PM

What year? Engine?

Dougget · 01-24-2006, 08:48 AM

4.3 V6.

On the Powerdyne website they have a unit for 1996-2000 and another unit for 2001-2002. What changed between 2000 and 2001?

I am most interested in the 96-00 engine.

Thanks,
Doug

rat · 01-24-2006, 10:35 AM

They include headers for the '01-'02 kit. Not sure why though. The same '96 up kit should be a bolt of for all '96 up trucks. '98-'00 some trucks had air injection. '02 egr was eliminated, so that tube can be eliminated from the headers.

The biggest issue i see is the air injection on '98-'00 trucks, if you don't have it you should be able to run any of the kits. If you are willing to eliminate it, then you should be all set.

You have 4 options that i know of.
The mach performance kit. Uses an ATI blower, it includes an interclooler. The company has a bad reputation on the s-10 sites lately.

Vortech, 7psi. No internal belt to break. You have to tap into the oil pan. If i was getting a kit it would probably be this one.

Powerdyne, 7psi, has an internal belt that can be a limmiting factor when upping boost. On the cheeper end of the scale.

Wynjammer, 6psi. No fmu, relies on a computer tune to add fuel. You would have to add an fmu, or additonal injectors or something to get more fuel into it if you plan on upping boost. I think this is the cheepest kit you can get. Looks to have an easy install.

As far as what has the best gains, well it all depends on who tunes it. The kits are designed with a stock vehicle in mind. Just bolting it on probably isn't going to give as good as results as bolting it on, and tuning it to the vehicle. The engine should also last longer with a proper tune.

Chev85_DrmTheater · 01-30-2006, 09:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rat

The engine should also last longer with a proper tune.

Would a JET performance programmer do a good job with this special tuning?

rat · 01-30-2006, 09:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Chev85_DrmTheater

Would a JET performance programmer do a good job with this special tuning?

No. A custom mail in tune, or even better a tune you did yourself, or a dyno did.

Chev85_DrmTheater · 02-01-2006, 02:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rat

No. A custom mail in tune, or even better a tune you did yourself, or a dyno did.

How much would a dyno tune cost, and where would you get it done? I am also looking into a s/c and I have no idea how I would go about doing tuning myself.

hellbents10 · 02-01-2006, 04:51 PM

Dyno tunes usually run about $125 a hour, or about $500 flat.

trixedout1 · 02-08-2006, 10:43 PM

is there supercharger kit for a 89 4.3l v6 out there?

rat · 02-08-2006, 11:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by trixedout1

is there supercharger kit for a 89 4.3l v6 out there?

Check out wynjammer, or look for a used whipple, i don't know if it would be a bolt on for you nessisarily off the top of my head.

v8turboblazer · 02-09-2006, 08:43 AM

Get A turbo it's worth the extra cost "why change A pulley when you can turn A dial" hellbents10 you know what I mean.

01-23-2006, 04:06 PM	#1
Dougget Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3 Location: User is: OffLine	Supercharger Thread I'm a newbe doing some research on superchargers for the 4.3L V6. Thought it would be a good idea to start a SC thread to gather some current info. I'd like to stick with a kit (newbe) to keep it simple. Stuff I'm looking for: Brand. Model #. Boost. HP Gain. Price / Vendor. What years will it fit. Complexity of install (oil lines vs no oil lines for example). ECU (New one in kit, reprogram stock unit). Additional Items needed or recommended (ie, fuel pump, injectors, ignition, etc). That should get me started. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I learn more about the available options. Thank you, Doug
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01-23-2006, 04:16 PM	#2
gutlesswonder Registered User Age: 30 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,250 Location: lake forest User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread try using the search feature it will give you the answers to all of the questions you asked . i only state that becasue this has been posted a million times so all you need to do is search rather than make people post the info xxxxx times
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01-23-2006, 04:48 PM	#3
Dougget Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread Gutlesswonder, I did do some searching, and I did find some info here, and some info there. My goal with this thread was to try to compile all current info in one place. Good idea, let's do it. Bad idea, please delete this thread. Later, Doug
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01-23-2006, 05:09 PM	#4
rat Got Fuel Rails? Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,539 Location: Omaha, NE User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread What year? Engine?
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01-24-2006, 08:48 AM	#5
Dougget Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread 4.3 V6. On the Powerdyne website they have a unit for 1996-2000 and another unit for 2001-2002. What changed between 2000 and 2001? I am most interested in the 96-00 engine. Thanks, Doug
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01-24-2006, 10:35 AM	#6
rat Got Fuel Rails? Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,539 Location: Omaha, NE User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread They include headers for the '01-'02 kit. Not sure why though. The same '96 up kit should be a bolt of for all '96 up trucks. '98-'00 some trucks had air injection. '02 egr was eliminated, so that tube can be eliminated from the headers. The biggest issue i see is the air injection on '98-'00 trucks, if you don't have it you should be able to run any of the kits. If you are willing to eliminate it, then you should be all set. You have 4 options that i know of. The mach performance kit. Uses an ATI blower, it includes an interclooler. The company has a bad reputation on the s-10 sites lately. Vortech, 7psi. No internal belt to break. You have to tap into the oil pan. If i was getting a kit it would probably be this one. Powerdyne, 7psi, has an internal belt that can be a limmiting factor when upping boost. On the cheeper end of the scale. Wynjammer, 6psi. No fmu, relies on a computer tune to add fuel. You would have to add an fmu, or additonal injectors or something to get more fuel into it if you plan on upping boost. I think this is the cheepest kit you can get. Looks to have an easy install. As far as what has the best gains, well it all depends on who tunes it. The kits are designed with a stock vehicle in mind. Just bolting it on probably isn't going to give as good as results as bolting it on, and tuning it to the vehicle. The engine should also last longer with a proper tune.
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01-30-2006, 09:17 PM	#7
Chev85_DrmTheater Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 70 Location: NE Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread Quote: Originally Posted by rat The engine should also last longer with a proper tune. Would a JET performance programmer do a good job with this special tuning?
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01-30-2006, 09:18 PM	#8
rat Got Fuel Rails? Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,539 Location: Omaha, NE User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread Quote: Originally Posted by Chev85_DrmTheater Would a JET performance programmer do a good job with this special tuning? No. A custom mail in tune, or even better a tune you did yourself, or a dyno did.
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02-01-2006, 02:43 PM	#9
Chev85_DrmTheater Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 70 Location: NE Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread Quote: Originally Posted by rat No. A custom mail in tune, or even better a tune you did yourself, or a dyno did. How much would a dyno tune cost, and where would you get it done? I am also looking into a s/c and I have no idea how I would go about doing tuning myself. Last edited by Chev85_DrmTheater : 02-01-2006 at 02:46 PM.
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02-01-2006, 04:51 PM	#10
hellbents10 Got spray? Got boost? (y) Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,063 Location: Spring Lake, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread Dyno tunes usually run about $125 a hour, or about $500 flat.
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02-08-2006, 10:43 PM	#11
trixedout1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 203 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread is there supercharger kit for a 89 4.3l v6 out there?
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02-08-2006, 11:08 PM	#12
rat Got Fuel Rails? Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,539 Location: Omaha, NE User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread Quote: Originally Posted by trixedout1 is there supercharger kit for a 89 4.3l v6 out there? Check out wynjammer, or look for a used whipple, i don't know if it would be a bolt on for you nessisarily off the top of my head.
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02-09-2006, 08:43 AM	#13
v8turboblazer turbo v8 s10 Age: 31 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 151 Location: battle creek User is: OffLine	Re: Supercharger Thread Get A turbo it's worth the extra cost "why change A pulley when you can turn A dial" hellbents10 you know what I mean.
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