Ordered wynjammer

srts10 · 11-05-2009, 04:34 AM

Hey guys I just ordered Wynjammer S/C..My question is I got my PCM tuned at wait4meperformance, do I need to send it back to get it retuned for S/C...Also How did you guys tune it or does Jesse know what he's doing when it comes to S/C????Thanx a lot...PLEASE LET ME KNOW ANY OTHER STUFF I SHOULD KNOW BEFORE INSTALLING IT...I am going to run 6psi for now until my fuel get's upgraded to 36...Thanx guys

1mean4.3 · 11-05-2009, 10:04 AM

Al should send you a seperate pcm programmed for the blower that you'll swap out. Even with the new pcm nothing beats a professional dyno tune on top. All trucks are different and I had mine dyno tuned. The drivability after was day and night. Plus you'll be assured everything IS running and mixing safely. I also bought some thicker silicone elbows and etc to replace the ones that come with Al's kit since his are a little cheaper which he does to keep the cost of the kit down. I blew a hole through one so I had to replace but that's up to you, not completely necessary. Get your new plugs, wires in and blaster coil from MSD. Then an electric fan and you should be set. Flex-a-lite should make a direct bolt up for yours that runs around $250. It's also not a bad idea to have a back up belt. Congrats, wynjammer is some of the best money I have spend on my truck. You'll get bang for your buck!

nukem1st · 11-05-2009, 10:05 AM

A new one will come with a new pre tuned PCM. PCMforless does the tuning for Al.
You can always call Bryan there at PCM4less, he'll answer any questions you might have.

srts10 · 11-05-2009, 10:18 AM

I really like the shift points and I have 4.10 gears on the back does al program the PCM for Shift points and my 4.10 gears so my speedo is not off???Or is that something that I should call PCM4LESS and tell them about it once I get the PCM from Al???

srts10 · 11-05-2009, 10:18 AM

Can you tune S/C wit SAF-C???

1mean4.3 · 11-05-2009, 10:36 AM

I'd call PCM about the shift points. He may be able to program that in. I don't see why not. I'd call him real soon though because I got my chip in a couple days before the rest of the kit. I'm not sure about SAF-C.

BadS15v8 · 11-05-2009, 12:34 PM

I believe the SAF-C's are RPM related. With S/C or turbo's you need to tune according to boost. Something like a Rising Rate Fuel Regulator, since they go from Boost and not by RPM's. Grab ya a wideband for sure. When I turbo'd my Neon it was a couple of months befoer I got my wideband. I had been runnin pig rich the whole time, she ran 20 times better after I tuned with the wideband

12sws27 · 11-05-2009, 08:49 PM

When I ordered my Jammer I emailed Al telling him what I wanted done to the pcm. Like post cat o2 and egr turned off. The pcm comes straight from PCMforless and it will have your name on it so you should call Bryan ASAP.
I'm suprised Al didn't ask you to email him info on your truck like the Vin# and mods that you've done.

03zq8s10 · 11-05-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

When I ordered my Jammer I emailed Al telling him what I wanted done to the pcm. Like post cat o2 and egr turned off. The pcm comes straight from PCMforless and it will have your name on it so you should call Bryan ASAP.
I'm suprised Al didn't ask you to email him info on your truck like the Vin# and mods that you've done.

The day I ordered my Jammer Al had me send my info about my truck like vin # etc. He as well said to send a list of mods that I had so he could email Bryan with my info. Weird he didn't ask for this info.

droppedsiera00 · 11-06-2009, 12:53 AM

i know this is off topic but 1mean4.3 how are you getting 8lb out of your jammer and dose anyone know how much you can push with it and sorry for the thread jack

1mean4.3 · 11-06-2009, 10:34 AM

I'm getting 8, close to 9 out of mine through advanced timing. My dyno guy had mine up to 11 psi but I was blowing fluid out of the gasket so we had to back off, plus my exhaust was too resrictive. I need headers and a full 3" really to attempt to run more boost. And better head gaskets with stronger bolts! This is my winter plan actually. To make up for the lean A/F that I was seeing during my initial dyno tune( that's why I recommend everyone get a professional dyno tune even with the pcm chip mailed ordered, and Al didn't ask for my specs either) I installed a methanol injection kit which is what a lot of sy/ty owners use to eliminate detonation. My kit runs 100% meth so you don't have to worry about playing chemist and getting your water/meth mix correct like snow performance and devils own kits. You TBI owners advantage though is you can go to bigger injecters, I can't, I have the CPI.

As far as what the blower itself and what it can handle you may have to go over that with Al. But he gets a little tight liped about those figures. My tuner had to call him and duke it out so I could get a smaller altenator pully which I still haven't done. He said my jammer's running about 27,000 rpms now. Al said the max it can handle is probably 34,000. I plan to get a smaller pully and attempt to run mine at about 32,000. Al will probably black ball me if he saw I put that info out there, he's funny about his stuff. I'm not sure how much more boost a smaller pully would yield. That's yet to be done I believe, but that's my plan.

1mean4.3 · 11-18-2009, 10:28 AM

Did you get your jammer in and installed yet? We need an update.

srts10 · 11-20-2009, 10:34 AM

Yes I got the whole kit, but didnt get a chance to install it..My wife has me doing all the pre winter shit around the house...I will keep you posted..My truck is in garage waiting on it....

98SSCHARGED · 11-20-2009, 05:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1mean4.3

I'm getting 8, close to 9 out of mine through advanced timing. My dyno guy had mine up to 11 psi but I was blowing fluid out of the gasket so we had to back off, plus my exhaust was too resrictive. I need headers and a full 3" really to attempt to run more boost. And better head gaskets with stronger bolts! This is my winter plan actually. To make up for the lean A/F that I was seeing during my initial dyno tune( that's why I recommend everyone get a professional dyno tune even with the pcm chip mailed ordered, and Al didn't ask for my specs either) I installed a methanol injection kit which is what a lot of sy/ty owners use to eliminate detonation. My kit runs 100% meth so you don't have to worry about playing chemist and getting your water/meth mix correct like snow performance and devils own kits. You TBI owners advantage though is you can go to bigger injecters, I can't, I have the CPI.

As far as what the blower itself and what it can handle you may have to go over that with Al. But he gets a little tight liped about those figures. My tuner had to call him and duke it out so I could get a smaller altenator pully which I still haven't done. He said my jammer's running about 27,000 rpms now. Al said the max it can handle is probably 34,000. I plan to get a smaller pully and attempt to run mine at about 32,000. Al will probably black ball me if he saw I put that info out there, he's funny about his stuff. I'm not sure how much more boost a smaller pully would yield. That's yet to be done I believe, but that's my plan.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP AL HAS A NEW 36LB INJECTOR KIT FOR THE CPI INCASE YOU WEREN'T AWARE

1mean4.3 · 11-20-2009, 06:21 PM

For the CPI? I just talked to him a week ago and he didn't mention it. I'll look into it for my winter rebuild. Thanks.

1mean4.3 · 11-20-2009, 06:31 PM

Can't wait to hear how you feel when it wakes that puppy up.

s106banger · 11-20-2009, 07:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1mean4.3

For the CPI? I just talked to him a week ago and he didn't mention it. I'll look into it for my winter rebuild. Thanks.

i think he means 96+ cpi/mpfi/ksiu/kjsff/kfm/jfnm or what ever were calling it now. lol.

and he shouldnt write in all caps, it feels like hes screaming it...lol

11-05-2009, 04:34 AM	#1
srts10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 278 Location: User is: OffLine	Ordered wynjammer Hey guys I just ordered Wynjammer S/C..My question is I got my PCM tuned at wait4meperformance, do I need to send it back to get it retuned for S/C...Also How did you guys tune it or does Jesse know what he's doing when it comes to S/C????Thanx a lot...PLEASE LET ME KNOW ANY OTHER STUFF I SHOULD KNOW BEFORE INSTALLING IT...I am going to run 6psi for now until my fuel get's upgraded to 36...Thanx guys
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11-05-2009, 10:04 AM	#2
1mean4.3 Klep Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 93 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer Al should send you a seperate pcm programmed for the blower that you'll swap out. Even with the new pcm nothing beats a professional dyno tune on top. All trucks are different and I had mine dyno tuned. The drivability after was day and night. Plus you'll be assured everything IS running and mixing safely. I also bought some thicker silicone elbows and etc to replace the ones that come with Al's kit since his are a little cheaper which he does to keep the cost of the kit down. I blew a hole through one so I had to replace but that's up to you, not completely necessary. Get your new plugs, wires in and blaster coil from MSD. Then an electric fan and you should be set. Flex-a-lite should make a direct bolt up for yours that runs around $250. It's also not a bad idea to have a back up belt. Congrats, wynjammer is some of the best money I have spend on my truck. You'll get bang for your buck!
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11-05-2009, 10:05 AM	#3
nukem1st Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 411 Location: N W MO User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer A new one will come with a new pre tuned PCM. PCMforless does the tuning for Al. You can always call Bryan there at PCM4less, he'll answer any questions you might have.
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11-05-2009, 10:18 AM	#4
srts10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 278 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer I really like the shift points and I have 4.10 gears on the back does al program the PCM for Shift points and my 4.10 gears so my speedo is not off???Or is that something that I should call PCM4LESS and tell them about it once I get the PCM from Al???
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11-05-2009, 10:18 AM	#5
srts10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 278 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer Can you tune S/C wit SAF-C???
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11-05-2009, 10:36 AM	#6
1mean4.3 Klep Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 93 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer I'd call PCM about the shift points. He may be able to program that in. I don't see why not. I'd call him real soon though because I got my chip in a couple days before the rest of the kit. I'm not sure about SAF-C.
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11-05-2009, 12:34 PM	#7
BadS15v8 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,034 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer I believe the SAF-C's are RPM related. With S/C or turbo's you need to tune according to boost. Something like a Rising Rate Fuel Regulator, since they go from Boost and not by RPM's. Grab ya a wideband for sure. When I turbo'd my Neon it was a couple of months befoer I got my wideband. I had been runnin pig rich the whole time, she ran 20 times better after I tuned with the wideband
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11-05-2009, 08:49 PM	#8
12sws27 Traction not found here! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 678 Location: Miami,FL User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer When I ordered my Jammer I emailed Al telling him what I wanted done to the pcm. Like post cat o2 and egr turned off. The pcm comes straight from PCMforless and it will have your name on it so you should call Bryan ASAP. I'm suprised Al didn't ask you to email him info on your truck like the Vin# and mods that you've done.
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11-05-2009, 10:19 PM	#9
03zq8s10 Got boost? Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 804 Location: Killen, Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27 When I ordered my Jammer I emailed Al telling him what I wanted done to the pcm. Like post cat o2 and egr turned off. The pcm comes straight from PCMforless and it will have your name on it so you should call Bryan ASAP. I'm suprised Al didn't ask you to email him info on your truck like the Vin# and mods that you've done. The day I ordered my Jammer Al had me send my info about my truck like vin # etc. He as well said to send a list of mods that I had so he could email Bryan with my info. Weird he didn't ask for this info.
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11-06-2009, 12:53 AM	#10
droppedsiera00 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer i know this is off topic but 1mean4.3 how are you getting 8lb out of your jammer and dose anyone know how much you can push with it and sorry for the thread jack
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11-06-2009, 10:34 AM	#11
1mean4.3 Klep Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 93 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer I'm getting 8, close to 9 out of mine through advanced timing. My dyno guy had mine up to 11 psi but I was blowing fluid out of the gasket so we had to back off, plus my exhaust was too resrictive. I need headers and a full 3" really to attempt to run more boost. And better head gaskets with stronger bolts! This is my winter plan actually. To make up for the lean A/F that I was seeing during my initial dyno tune( that's why I recommend everyone get a professional dyno tune even with the pcm chip mailed ordered, and Al didn't ask for my specs either) I installed a methanol injection kit which is what a lot of sy/ty owners use to eliminate detonation. My kit runs 100% meth so you don't have to worry about playing chemist and getting your water/meth mix correct like snow performance and devils own kits. You TBI owners advantage though is you can go to bigger injecters, I can't, I have the CPI. As far as what the blower itself and what it can handle you may have to go over that with Al. But he gets a little tight liped about those figures. My tuner had to call him and duke it out so I could get a smaller altenator pully which I still haven't done. He said my jammer's running about 27,000 rpms now. Al said the max it can handle is probably 34,000. I plan to get a smaller pully and attempt to run mine at about 32,000. Al will probably black ball me if he saw I put that info out there, he's funny about his stuff. I'm not sure how much more boost a smaller pully would yield. That's yet to be done I believe, but that's my plan.
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11-18-2009, 10:28 AM	#12
1mean4.3 Klep Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 93 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer Did you get your jammer in and installed yet? We need an update.
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11-20-2009, 10:34 AM	#13
srts10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 278 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer Yes I got the whole kit, but didnt get a chance to install it..My wife has me doing all the pre winter shit around the house...I will keep you posted..My truck is in garage waiting on it....
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11-20-2009, 05:30 PM	#14
98SSCHARGED SUPERCHARGED SUPERSPORT Age: 28 Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6 Location: TOOELE UTAH User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer Quote: Originally Posted by 1mean4.3 I'm getting 8, close to 9 out of mine through advanced timing. My dyno guy had mine up to 11 psi but I was blowing fluid out of the gasket so we had to back off, plus my exhaust was too resrictive. I need headers and a full 3" really to attempt to run more boost. And better head gaskets with stronger bolts! This is my winter plan actually. To make up for the lean A/F that I was seeing during my initial dyno tune( that's why I recommend everyone get a professional dyno tune even with the pcm chip mailed ordered, and Al didn't ask for my specs either) I installed a methanol injection kit which is what a lot of sy/ty owners use to eliminate detonation. My kit runs 100% meth so you don't have to worry about playing chemist and getting your water/meth mix correct like snow performance and devils own kits. You TBI owners advantage though is you can go to bigger injecters, I can't, I have the CPI. As far as what the blower itself and what it can handle you may have to go over that with Al. But he gets a little tight liped about those figures. My tuner had to call him and duke it out so I could get a smaller altenator pully which I still haven't done. He said my jammer's running about 27,000 rpms now. Al said the max it can handle is probably 34,000. I plan to get a smaller pully and attempt to run mine at about 32,000. Al will probably black ball me if he saw I put that info out there, he's funny about his stuff. I'm not sure how much more boost a smaller pully would yield. That's yet to be done I believe, but that's my plan. JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP AL HAS A NEW 36LB INJECTOR KIT FOR THE CPI INCASE YOU WEREN'T AWARE
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11-20-2009, 06:21 PM	#15
1mean4.3 Klep Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 93 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer For the CPI? I just talked to him a week ago and he didn't mention it. I'll look into it for my winter rebuild. Thanks.
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11-20-2009, 06:31 PM	#16
1mean4.3 Klep Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 93 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer Can't wait to hear how you feel when it wakes that puppy up.
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11-20-2009, 07:57 PM	#17
s106banger i need a paint job Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 863 Location: Medina/UNOH User is: OffLine	Re: Ordered wynjammer Quote: Originally Posted by 1mean4.3 For the CPI? I just talked to him a week ago and he didn't mention it. I'll look into it for my winter rebuild. Thanks. i think he means 96+ cpi/mpfi/ksiu/kjsff/kfm/jfnm or what ever were calling it now. lol. and he shouldnt write in all caps, it feels like hes screaming it...lol
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