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#51 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 398
Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
Got the rest of the kit installed and wouldn't ya know it.........forgot my USB to serial port adapter to hook my laptop to the ECU. Stay tuned till next week!
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#52 |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 162
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Re: Fageol charger
how much did it cost for the fageol
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#53 |
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Age: 34
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
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#54 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
Can u install the software for this kit on more than one computer? I installed it into my desktop to play with it first and then into my laptop, but doesn't seem to work the same. Anyone know.
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#55 |
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Age: 85
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,328
Location: orlando/englewood User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
i'v installed mine on multiple computers. do the comp's have different operating systems? windows xp versus windows 98 or similar?
i've installed on both, i do my tuning on a windows 98 computer but didnt have any issues while i was tuning on an xp comp. i have heard the software can be tempermental with xp |
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#56 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
Turns out that I had no probs with my laptop...just wasn't connected to the ECU when I was playing with it and it reactly differently than my desktop. Loaded up the TBI6501 base map changed my engine parameters and she fired right up....for about 2-3 secs, lol. Anyways thats where the tuning part comes in. I noticed that when I started it the A/F ratio was anywhere from 13-1 to 18-1. I don't know zip about tuning so decided to leave it for now. I discovered that my waterpump gasket is leaking so I have to change it. Gonna book an appt. with my tuner and get him to tune it for me. Don't flame me for whimpin' out....just don't want to screw this up....to much money into this.
Last edited by mabru : 03-16-2008 at 10:34 PM. |
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#57 |
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Age: 21
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 220
Location: Lansing MI User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
This build is so cool. I wish i would have went with something like this. yea the v8 was fun... but something like this is just bada$$.
DEREK |
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#58 |
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Age: 28
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: Fageol charger
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Age: 85
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Re: Fageol charger
i second that. very wise decision
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#60 |
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Age: 34
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
Thanx guys...it's funny how people you've never meet can have such an influence on decisions. Glad I have some members on the forums interested and standing behind me on this build.
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#61 |
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Age: 21
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Fageol charger
s10ls you are not 84 (that is what your age says) whats up with that?
i also think its a good idea, try and learn what you can from them while you watch. |
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#62 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
My 2.5" blower pulley came in and I have my tuning appt. set up for April 2nd
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#63 |
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Age: 28
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Re: Fageol charger
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#64 |
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Age: 34
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Re: Fageol charger
Depends on how long it takes him to dial it in. It's a by the hour type deal and he figures It'll be wed afternoon and most of thursday. Probaly won't be cheap but this guy really knows his stuff and is really good at what he does, you get what you pay for. It'll be put on the dyno and road tested.
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#65 |
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Age: 85
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Re: Fageol charger
zy, why do you think i'm not 84?? |
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Age: 21
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Re: Fageol charger
you don't seem 84
but if you are, you are exactly the kind of old man i want to be! |
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#67 |
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Age: 85
Join Date: May 2003
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Re: Fageol charger
who you calling an old man? i may be 84 but i'll still kick your ass. seriously though i put that in here as a joke like 3 years ago, i'm actually 97
mabru, check out chevytalk.com. the efi forum is basically a holley commander 950 tech forum, most of those guys run the commander so there is lots of good info |
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Age: 21
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Re: Fageol charger
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Age: 34
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Re: Fageol charger
mabru, check out chevytalk.com. the efi forum is basically a holley commander 950 tech forum, most of those guys run the commander so there is lots of good info[/quote]
Good info on there for the 950...thanx |
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#70 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: Fageol charger
Got my water pump gasket leak fixed, put on my 8 lb pulley and had to get a new belt, then put it all back together. Couldn't help myself....I richen up the fuel table and set my A/F target at 13 to 1 and she ran pretty good. Circulated the antifreeze, checked to make sure my e fan was working, and triple checked for leaks.....alls good. Have my tuning appt. set for April 2nd so shortly thereafter Ill have some dyno numbers for you guys.
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#71 |
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Age: 34
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Re: Fageol charger
We'll got the tune done...it runs great but I'm really low on the boost with the 8 pound pulley. It had a hard time making more than 5 pounds. gonna through my 6 pound pulley on it and see if it makes a difference....had no prob making 6 pounds before. I'm also having a problem with my fuel pressure....it's not staying constant....I have a 255lph walboro pump that I put in the year before last. Gonna change my filter and see it it helps....maybe got a bad pump?
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Disposably Supercharged.
Age: 31
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 769
Location: Edmonton, AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
Is the voltage to the fuel pump constant?
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#73 |
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Age: 28
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Re: Fageol charger
It sounds like your smaller pulley might be slipping. What are you using for a belt? You should try running a boodyear gatorback belt, a lot of the vortech guys use them to fight belt slippage. If that doesn't work maybe you could take your smaller pulley to a machine shop and have some grooves drilled through the circumference across the groove. I believe a company called riechard racing IIRC sells a type like that for vortech and powerdynes, there are usually a few on ebay at any given time. |
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Disposably Supercharged.
Age: 31
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 769
Location: Edmonton, AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
you can potentially make the belt slippage problem worse with a gatorback - there's less surface area contacting the pulley than with a standard belt.
If the pump voltage is an issue MSD and Kenne Bell sell voltage boosters that ramp up power supply to the fuel pump under boost. |
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#75 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
Theres no indication of belt slippage according to my tuner...as for the pump I fired it up this morning and the pressure was back up to 30 pounds. Almost like when its been working for a while it start to fall off. Trucks back out at the farm so I won't know anymore till next week.
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#76 |
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Age: 34
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Re: Fageol charger
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#77 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: Fageol charger
Turns out the eratic fuels pressure was from the adjusting screw not staying put. When I would hit the throttle hard I also noticed that the pressure would drop 5 pounds or so. I put an aeromotive 13301 with the 20 psi + spring in it and am able to keep the pressure where its needed and without the drop in pressure with an instant fuel demand. Also ran a vac/boost line to the reg to help raise the pressure a lil while in boost. My injectors were running about 85% duty cycle before so this seems to help a bit.
As for the lack of boost, I am almost certain that my belt is slippin on the crank pulley. Checked it with a timing light to use as a strobe light and I pretty sure this is the problem. Gonna run my 6lb pulley again as I had no issue with slip before and maybe this winter I'll tinker with a better set up for my 8lb pulley. Havn't swapped it back yet but I'll do that next week and let you guys know how I made out....stay tuned! |
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#78 |
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Age: 28
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Re: Fageol charger
Are you going to look into the slotted pulley and the gatorback belt?
This is the type of pulley I was talking about before. I've seen others made by simply running a drill through the side to cut the slot across the grooves. I'd think just about any machinist should be able to do it for you, for less than one of these would cost you. |
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#79 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
Thats a good idea...which pulleys should I have the slots drilled into. It looks to me like its slippin on the crank pulley, should I have the blower pulley done to? The blower pulley's been anodized, would I have to get it redone after drilling the holes? Heres a pic of my pulley set up
http://www.putfile.com/pic/8003667 |
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#80 |
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Age: 28
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: Fageol charger
Hmm? Well it looks like you have plenty of belt wrap around all of your pulleys. It seems a little strange that your crank pulley would be slipping and not the s/c pulley. You should take a good look at the crank pulley and check out the condition of the grooves, make sure the peaks are nice and sharp, the grooves don't have any build up in and the flanks are perfectly straight and are not worn at all. Lastly check and see if the flanks are polished, I mean it's good for them to be smooth so they don't chew up belts, but you shouldn't be able to see you're reflection in it. You could try taking the pulley of the engine and running he OD over a wire wheel.
Is that crank pulley original to the engine or used? It might be worth it for you to try and track down a brand new one. I can't imagine it would be too expensive, not to mention there would be no question on the condition of the pulley. As far as having grooves cut in the crank pulley, I've never seen it done, but if all else fails, why not. As long as you are only going through the v-grooves and not the structural material of the OD, I'd say you'd be safe to go. |
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#81 |
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Age: 34
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
Well I'm lost...changed the pulley back to the original 6lb pulley I had to start with and am only making 4 to 4.5psi max. There must be something I'm missing somewhere. As for the fuel pressure I still can't keep it constant, I've changed the pump the filter and put on a new fuel pressure reg. and it still won't stay put. I'm going top try changing my gauge....maybe its faulty.
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#82 |
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Age: 34
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Location: Grande Prairie AB User is: OffLine ![]() |
Re: Fageol charger
I changed my fuel press gauge and I think thats what the problem was...seems to be holding at a steady pressure now. Gonna run the way it is for a while and keep my eye on things and see.
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Disposably Supercharged.
Age: 31
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Re: Fageol charger
Hopefully that solved it
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#84 |
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Age: 34
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Re: Fageol charger
Yeah...wish I could figure out the reason I'm not making as much boost though....doesnt make any sense.
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