dts stage one for 4.3

s10dollar · 08-15-2009, 07:21 PM

so im looking at the stage one kit for my 4.3 its a 5 speed and i was wondering if anyone has used this kit and if they have had any problems at all and where the intercooler mounts behind the grill? or in the valance any info would be helpful been savin my pennies for a while lol

rentedmule · 08-15-2009, 08:28 PM

I think it's brand new - is it actually available yet or still in prototyping?

s10dollar · 08-16-2009, 01:00 AM

its available I emailed him and he said they said they also just decided to run log style manifolds to lower the price but i was wondering if they included a new computer or what

02_Black_XBlazer · 08-16-2009, 03:26 PM

According to their site (www.dts2.net), they use HP Tuners. My guess would be that you send them your pcm and they flash it and send it back. If they're trying to keep down prices, it would seem more likely they'll do that as opposed to sending a whole new pcm. I suppose it wouldn't be out of the question, though...

s10ls · 08-16-2009, 09:04 PM

subscribing for pics of the manifolds

12sws27 · 08-17-2009, 01:06 AM

There sure isn't a hole lot of info about this v6 kit on their site.

s106banger · 08-17-2009, 11:43 AM

i think its funny how they say on there site they can use hptuners on any gm '96 and newer.

s10dollar · 08-17-2009, 12:27 PM

well it says complete kit but im wondering if i send them my ecu u they flash it and send it back or I get a new one this thing will proly have to spend some time on the dyno tuning and I will be doing a before and after tune just to see the actual power increase and I emailed him for pics and he didnt have any at the time

rentedmule · 08-17-2009, 04:42 PM

Sweet that someone is still making aftermarket speed bits for 4.3's. Looking forward to seeing it in practice

02_Black_XBlazer · 08-17-2009, 05:16 PM

Didn't even see this the first time..as per the site, a lowdown on the price, at least..

TurboS-10.com is now producing a Stage 1 Turbo Kit for the 4.3L engines. The 4.3L Stage 1 Kit is also 100% bolt on and comes with everything you need for your turbo conversion. Every nut, bolt, vacuum hose, fuel line, oil line, and fuel component needed for installation is included! Plus all stainless steel exhaust components and aluminum intercooler components are backed by a limited lifetime warranty. Should any of the welds ever fail we will repair or replace them for free!!

The 4.3L Stage 1 Kits are set @ 8psi which will significantly increase your horsepower from the stock 160whp to around 300whp. However, the 4.3L Stage 1 Kits can easily produce 500+ horsepower when combined with a built engine, fuel and ignition components necessary to support high boost levels.

4.3L Stage 1 Kit Includes:

T3/T4 Turbo
Fragola Lubrication Kit
Turbo Bracket
Bell Intercooler
Intercooler Brackets
Aluminum Intercooler Piping
Silicone Couplings
T-bolt Clamps
Type RS Blow-off Valve
Stainless Steel Headers
Stainless Steel Downpipe
Rising Rate Fuel Pressure Regulator
Maradyne Electric Fan Conversion Kit
Autometer Boost Guage
Vaccum Harnesses
Cone Style Air Filter
PCV Filter

As well as all necessary gaskets, hardware, and instructions

The complete 4.3L Stage 1 Turbo Kit is $3625.00 Shipped!

12sws27 · 08-17-2009, 08:46 PM

Depending on what brand of Turbo they use, I would be interested in this kit. If it were around back before I bought my Jammer and the DTS kits uses a quality turbo I would of bought it.

I'm very curious to see how this kit works out. It maybe something I want in the future.

03zq8s10 · 08-18-2009, 02:26 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

Depending on what brand of Turbo they use, I would be interested in this kit. If it were around back before I bought my Jammer and the DTS kits uses a quality turbo I would of bought it.

I'm very curious to see how this kit works out. It maybe something I want in the future.

Yeah same here. I just hope ole Al doesn't get on this site and read our words. lol I'm happy with my Wynjammer though and I'm really curious to see the gains on this Turbo. I know they make a killer setup for F-bodies. Hmmmmmm.

lsxblack · 08-18-2009, 03:54 AM

I really hope I read that wrong and they are not saying they are originators of the turbo s10.

I really want to see what this kit looks like. Mach made a kit.. p.o.s. Several other members have used sy ty manifolds I have made about half a dozen stainless setups myself.

Not saying it can't be done but I am curious as to what they expect.

Subscribing for updates

King_Ice_Flash2 · 08-18-2009, 11:32 AM

Mach turbo FTW!

s10ls · 08-18-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2

Mach turbo FTW!

its been a very long time since i have heard anyone say something nice about mach around here lol

i have been emailing back and forth with dts about the exhaust manifolds, i may give them a try on my setup if the design is there and the price is reasonable. he hasnt been very forthcoming with information on them (primary size, log size, flange thickness, swept or straight primaries, stepped or one size log) or pictures. maybe he hasnt built a set yet?

King_Ice_Flash2 · 08-18-2009, 03:57 PM

I only used about 6 pieces from that kit. The headers hit the steering shaft, and the turbo sits so far forward, you can't even fit that cobra head between the radiator and the turbo. For being a "bolt on kit" it left a lot to be desired (Especially in the instructions).

The intercooler is in KS somewhere, and all the pipes are in a box in the basement collecting dust.

12sws27 · 08-18-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 03zq8s10

Yeah same here. I just hope ole Al doesn't get on this site and read our words. lol I'm happy with my Wynjammer though and I'm really curious to see the gains on this Turbo. I know they make a killer setup for F-bodies. Hmmmmmm.

Me too. I just know as well as Al, that if I ever want to force 15+psi in my 4.3L, no S/C with sealed bearing is gonna get it done.

s10ls · 08-19-2009, 12:48 PM

as i said before i have been emailing back and forth with them. he hasnt built a set of logs for the 4.3 yet, but he has the jig made up and plans to make a set this week and send me pictures. he sent me pics of his 2.2 log, appears that he is using stainless weld-els and tig welding it all together as well as using what appears to be a 1/2'' flange. looks like solid work and the weld-els are very thick walled and should keep the cost down.

lsxblack · 08-22-2009, 03:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2

Mach turbo FTW!

hahaha yeeeeah they produced a few of those their fail rate was much higher than success.

Other guys on this forum have made bigger gains. I wouldn't have mach work on my riding lawn mower haha

sy-clone · 08-22-2009, 06:23 PM

Here's what I had to do to clear the cobra head and hook up the trans cooler lines on the rad.
http://www.hotrodders.com/journal_ph...1320652721.jpg

[sf]_viper · 08-22-2009, 07:56 PM

tony, you got any more pics of that. i am running into the same issue as we speak. (this is the man formerly known as zygoat)

maybe you can pm, me some links so we dont whore up this tread

King_Ice_Flash2 · 08-22-2009, 10:58 PM

My cobra head won't clear the RADIATOR.

cs xtreme · 08-23-2009, 12:12 AM

not sure about the 4.3 kit but he uses a off brand cheap turbo on his 2.2L setup

12sws27 · 08-23-2009, 02:09 AM

I emailed DTS with a few questions and these were the answers I got.

Q.)What brand turbo does it use?
A.)Normally a generic T3/T4 but we can put together a price for any name brand turbo as well.

Q.)Do you only offer it as a whole kit or can a person buy parts of the kit?
A.)We can sell it as a whole, in pieces, partially customized, or fully customized. You can choose from tubular turbo headers and log style manifolds.

Q.)Would the kit also include a PCM tune?
A.)Normally does

Q.)Is the kit ready and up for sale?
A.)Yes

Q.)What warranty is offered on the turbo it's self?
A.) Depends on turbo, some have a year some have as little as 3 months but we have never had any trouble with any of them.

tretiak · 08-23-2009, 03:06 AM

in for pictures of the manifolds i think i might put off bagging my truck

sy-clone · 08-24-2009, 03:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by [sf]_viper

tony, you got any more pics of that. i am running into the same issue as we speak. (this is the man formerly known as zygoat)
maybe you can pm, me some links so we dont whore up this tread

PM sent

s10dollar · 08-24-2009, 08:26 PM

alright boys girl gave the

so its on almost got the money will be done BY christmas things to order before are wideband a/f new spintech and magnaflow cat and prolly some diff rear gears i dont think those 3.08s will do much

s10dollar · 08-24-2009, 08:27 PM

also what would be a good cost effective turbo besides the generic he is offering?

cs xtreme · 08-24-2009, 08:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10dollar

also what would be a good cost effective turbo besides the generic he is offering?

this one gets my vote.
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...R_714568_3.htm
but depends on goals I guess.

70welder · 08-24-2009, 10:55 PM

i would consider this kit, if only i had the cashflow

Lspwr · 09-07-2009, 11:45 PM

I'm down, but I still would like to see some real world results first.

circa · 10-02-2009, 06:18 PM

Should see if DTS will sell you the mani's/crossover/downpipe.
Possibly cheaper then buying whole kit if you do the rest yourself.

tretiak · 10-20-2009, 03:50 AM

got an email from dave.

i asked how much power the kit makes

300-350 wheel horsepower on a stock engine with about 300 ft/lbs of torque. The kit is capable of 500whp with a strengthened engine.

Thanks,
David DeKerlegand
DeKerlegand Turbo Systems LLC

looks like im getting a block and heads and getting it built

94s10cpi · 10-24-2009, 04:02 AM

I'm also curious in how this goes.. I'm planning on buying it next winter if everything works out fine with the kit.

Does anyone know if it comes with the exhaust parts after the turbo or what? I see where the 2.2 turbo kits do. I didn't see anything that really said if they did or not. I still wanna see more pictures of the kit. I guess their working on that.

03zq8s10 · 10-24-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 94s10cpi

I'm also curious in how this goes.. I'm planning on buying it next winter if everything works out fine with the kit.

Does anyone know if it comes with the exhaust parts after the turbo or what? I see where the 2.2 turbo kits do. I didn't see anything that really said if they did or not. I still wanna see more pictures of the kit. I guess their working on that.

I'm curious as well. If this kit proves to be a good investment it is definitely something I will buy in the near future.

s106banger · 10-25-2009, 08:15 PM

there gonna do 300rwhp and fuel it with a FMU?? good luck with that... i can barely do the 240rwhp with my 8lbs and stock injectors. my injectors are getting pissed seeing so much pressure, there starting to cut out from time to time. you better have a wideband if you get this kit.

maybe its just my truck??

rob8284 · 10-25-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s106banger

there gonna do 300rwhp and fuel it with a FMU?? good luck with that...

It can and has been done. 02Vortech did it with his remote mount set up. Stock injectors and FMU. I believe a few others have done it as well.

94s10cpi · 10-26-2009, 12:17 AM

I just thought of something if i bought this kit next winter and put a cam and got head work done and buy other stuff i'd want to support the power i'd be looking at 4500 plus in all of that. I could do a ls1 t56 swap for that also. lol but having one bada$$ 4.3 is hard to beat.

12sws27 · 10-26-2009, 01:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rob8284

It can and has been done. 02Vortech did it with his remote mount set up. Stock injectors and FMU. I believe a few others have done it as well.

Didn't he kill it at about 50K miles though?

rob8284 · 10-26-2009, 08:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27

Didn't he kill it at about 50K miles though?

Well, when you rip and tear on a stock engine and don't really take care of things, that will happen. Plus he was running 10-12psi I think as well. I also do not think he was doing too well with getting the A/F set correctly. I'm not sure what went on his engine, but he was, by no means, easy or cautious on it really.

Prior to his turbo set up, we was running 100 shot I believe.

98 SS · 10-26-2009, 03:21 PM

he was also one of the only people to ever see the "gains" he did...... When the air smells like bullshit, there must be bullshit near by.

s106banger · 10-26-2009, 03:47 PM

i cant keep my afr set right with the FMU. on a hot day itll range from like 9.8:1 to like 10.5:1. and on a cold day like last time i was at the track it was running like 11.8:1 to like 12.6:1. my FMU is turned up all the way. lol. is it just my truck that does that? and like i said its starting to cut out at times. when i was reading about FMU's, i read they are just a bandaid. thats exactly right IMO. it might work better if i had tuning software like hptuners too..?

02_Black_XBlazer · 10-26-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 98 SS

he was also one of the only people to ever see the "gains" he did...... When the air smells like bullshit, there must be bullshit near by.

I'm glad you mentioned that. His idea seemed good, and he was definitely going in the right directions, but all i ever saw was some pics of him on a dyno (no numbers ever shown other that his own word of mouth), and some vids of him dumping black smoke when he hit 2nd. Oh, and a couple of "incomplete" vids of him at the track.

Again, right idea, but incomplete at best.

98 SS · 10-26-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 02_Black_XBlazer

I'm glad you mentioned that. His idea seemed good, and he was definitely going in the right directions, but all i ever saw was some pics of him on a dyno (no numbers ever shown other that his own word of mouth), and some vids of him dumping black smoke when he hit 2nd. Oh, and a couple of "incomplete" vids of him at the track.

Again, right idea, but incomplete at best.

And as I have been seeing a lot lately, "I ran this, so I should run this.....so that makes my truck a XX.XX second truck." "And since my truck runs XX.XX, that means I have XXX HP at the wheels."

My truck SHOULD run 11's when its back together.....but as of now, its a 13.2 second truck......regardless that it had a 60' of 2.4 or my trap speed was 109mph.....and thats not an 1/8th mile converted up to 1/4 mile. it dynoed on a Dynojet at 313/404 at the wheels. Running 15-18psi due to belt slip.

Thats how members of this section should post the stats....what it really did. not what they think it does.

I'm waiting with limited anticipation to see what this turbo kit puts down at the wheels. But I'm thinking 350 at the wheels is gonna be a bit of a stretch on an all stock truck.

But what do I know.... ?

s10ls · 10-26-2009, 11:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 98 SS

I'm waiting with limited anticipation to see what this turbo kit puts down at the wheels. But I'm thinking 350 at the wheels is gonna be a bit of a stretch on an all stock truck.

But what do I know.... ?

I have no doubt that the motor itself can handle big power. its the fuel thats the limiting factor. i wouldnt count on any more than 300 using an FMU

did he ever specify what turbo we was running? someone posted a gt35, IMO thats the perfect street turbo for these motors.

as for my truck, i just want it to run. dont really care how fast it is

98 SS · 10-27-2009, 10:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10ls

I have no doubt that the motor itself can handle big power. its the fuel thats the limiting factor. i wouldnt count on any more than 300 using an FMU

did he ever specify what turbo we was running? someone posted a gt35, IMO thats the perfect street turbo for these motors.

as for my truck, i just want it to run. dont really care how fast it is

Yup, the fuel is the kicker. Has anyone pushed the update set with the higher pressures of an FMU?

And keeping them running is the hard part!!

94s10cpi · 10-27-2009, 12:16 PM

98 ss are you gonna be running your stock crank? aren't they kinda weak due to the rod journals being offset?

s10ls · 10-27-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 94s10cpi

98 ss are you gonna be running your stock crank? aren't they kinda weak due to the rod journals being offset?

thats arguable. they are offset, but they are also larger to accomodate for being offset. standard sbc rod journal is 2.1 and a 4.3 is 2.25.

stock cranks have held 700+ hp before, and some have broken in stock trucks. it all goes back to the tune. no engine will like knock

i would say that 99% of crank failures in 4.3's are actually caused by cap walk and/or detonation. keep the mains in place, take your time tuning it (dont knock) and it will hold plenty of power

98 SS · 10-27-2009, 05:53 PM

Yes and yes. My center 2 mains are splayed 4 bolt to help with the crank flex. You can have the crank Nitrided. I considered it once upon a time. But its more of a longevity thing than a strength thing. i want to say that there are guys running 500+ on nitrided cranks though. Maybe more info on SyTy.net, that used to be the place to find out what worked. Another big deal is the old blocks vs the balance shaft blocks. Pre balance shaft blocks have more meat in the bottom end webbing.

98 SS · 10-27-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10ls

i would say that 99% of crank failures in 4.3's are actually caused by cap walk and/or detonation. keep the mains in place, take your time tuning it (dont knock) and it will hold plenty of power

yup

08-15-2009, 07:21 PM	#1
s10dollar Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Blue Springs User is: OffLine	dts stage one for 4.3 so im looking at the stage one kit for my 4.3 its a 5 speed and i was wondering if anyone has used this kit and if they have had any problems at all and where the intercooler mounts behind the grill? or in the valance any info would be helpful been savin my pennies for a while lol
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08-15-2009, 08:28 PM	#2
rentedmule got cones? Age: 32 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,287 Location: Edmonton, AB User is: Online	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 I think it's brand new - is it actually available yet or still in prototyping?
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08-16-2009, 01:00 AM	#3
s10dollar Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Blue Springs User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 its available I emailed him and he said they said they also just decided to run log style manifolds to lower the price but i was wondering if they included a new computer or what
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08-16-2009, 03:26 PM	#4
02_Black_XBlazer Starting from scratch... Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,331 Location: Over By There, IL User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 According to their site (www.dts2.net), they use HP Tuners. My guess would be that you send them your pcm and they flash it and send it back. If they're trying to keep down prices, it would seem more likely they'll do that as opposed to sending a whole new pcm. I suppose it wouldn't be out of the question, though...
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08-16-2009, 09:04 PM	#5
s10ls Registered User Age: 86 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,545 Location: orlando/englewood User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 subscribing for pics of the manifolds
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08-17-2009, 01:06 AM	#6
12sws27 Traction not found here! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 678 Location: Miami,FL User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 There sure isn't a hole lot of info about this v6 kit on their site.
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08-17-2009, 11:43 AM	#7
s106banger i need a paint job Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 863 Location: Medina/UNOH User is: Online	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 i think its funny how they say on there site they can use hptuners on any gm '96 and newer.
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08-17-2009, 12:27 PM	#8
s10dollar Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Blue Springs User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 well it says complete kit but im wondering if i send them my ecu u they flash it and send it back or I get a new one this thing will proly have to spend some time on the dyno tuning and I will be doing a before and after tune just to see the actual power increase and I emailed him for pics and he didnt have any at the time
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08-17-2009, 04:42 PM	#9
rentedmule got cones? Age: 32 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,287 Location: Edmonton, AB User is: Online	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Sweet that someone is still making aftermarket speed bits for 4.3's. Looking forward to seeing it in practice
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08-17-2009, 05:16 PM	#10
02_Black_XBlazer Starting from scratch... Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,331 Location: Over By There, IL User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Didn't even see this the first time..as per the site, a lowdown on the price, at least.. TurboS-10.com is now producing a Stage 1 Turbo Kit for the 4.3L engines. The 4.3L Stage 1 Kit is also 100% bolt on and comes with everything you need for your turbo conversion. Every nut, bolt, vacuum hose, fuel line, oil line, and fuel component needed for installation is included! Plus all stainless steel exhaust components and aluminum intercooler components are backed by a limited lifetime warranty. Should any of the welds ever fail we will repair or replace them for free!! The 4.3L Stage 1 Kits are set @ 8psi which will significantly increase your horsepower from the stock 160whp to around 300whp. However, the 4.3L Stage 1 Kits can easily produce 500+ horsepower when combined with a built engine, fuel and ignition components necessary to support high boost levels. 4.3L Stage 1 Kit Includes: T3/T4 Turbo Fragola Lubrication Kit Turbo Bracket Bell Intercooler Intercooler Brackets Aluminum Intercooler Piping Silicone Couplings T-bolt Clamps Type RS Blow-off Valve Stainless Steel Headers Stainless Steel Downpipe Rising Rate Fuel Pressure Regulator Maradyne Electric Fan Conversion Kit Autometer Boost Guage Vaccum Harnesses Cone Style Air Filter PCV Filter As well as all necessary gaskets, hardware, and instructions The complete 4.3L Stage 1 Turbo Kit is $3625.00 Shipped!
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08-17-2009, 08:46 PM	#11
12sws27 Traction not found here! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 678 Location: Miami,FL User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Depending on what brand of Turbo they use, I would be interested in this kit. If it were around back before I bought my Jammer and the DTS kits uses a quality turbo I would of bought it. I'm very curious to see how this kit works out. It maybe something I want in the future.
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08-18-2009, 02:26 AM	#12
03zq8s10 Got boost? Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 804 Location: Killen, Alabama User is: Online	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Quote: Originally Posted by 12sws27 Depending on what brand of Turbo they use, I would be interested in this kit. If it were around back before I bought my Jammer and the DTS kits uses a quality turbo I would of bought it. I'm very curious to see how this kit works out. It maybe something I want in the future. Yeah same here. I just hope ole Al doesn't get on this site and read our words. lol I'm happy with my Wynjammer though and I'm really curious to see the gains on this Turbo. I know they make a killer setup for F-bodies. Hmmmmmm.
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08-18-2009, 03:54 AM	#13
lsxblack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 I really hope I read that wrong and they are not saying they are originators of the turbo s10. I really want to see what this kit looks like. Mach made a kit.. p.o.s. Several other members have used sy ty manifolds I have made about half a dozen stainless setups myself. Not saying it can't be done but I am curious as to what they expect. Subscribing for updates
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08-18-2009, 11:32 AM	#14
King_Ice_Flash2 Will work for turbo parts Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,783 Location: SE, WI User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Mach turbo FTW!
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08-18-2009, 12:46 PM	#15
s10ls Registered User Age: 86 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,545 Location: orlando/englewood User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2 Mach turbo FTW! its been a very long time since i have heard anyone say something nice about mach around here lol i have been emailing back and forth with dts about the exhaust manifolds, i may give them a try on my setup if the design is there and the price is reasonable. he hasnt been very forthcoming with information on them (primary size, log size, flange thickness, swept or straight primaries, stepped or one size log) or pictures. maybe he hasnt built a set yet? Last edited by s10ls : 08-18-2009 at 12:49 PM.
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08-18-2009, 03:57 PM	#16
King_Ice_Flash2 Will work for turbo parts Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,783 Location: SE, WI User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 I only used about 6 pieces from that kit. The headers hit the steering shaft, and the turbo sits so far forward, you can't even fit that cobra head between the radiator and the turbo. For being a "bolt on kit" it left a lot to be desired (Especially in the instructions). The intercooler is in KS somewhere, and all the pipes are in a box in the basement collecting dust.
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08-18-2009, 06:40 PM	#17
12sws27 Traction not found here! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 678 Location: Miami,FL User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Quote: Originally Posted by 03zq8s10 Yeah same here. I just hope ole Al doesn't get on this site and read our words. lol I'm happy with my Wynjammer though and I'm really curious to see the gains on this Turbo. I know they make a killer setup for F-bodies. Hmmmmmm. Me too. I just know as well as Al, that if I ever want to force 15+psi in my 4.3L, no S/C with sealed bearing is gonna get it done.
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08-19-2009, 12:48 PM	#18
s10ls Registered User Age: 86 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,545 Location: orlando/englewood User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 as i said before i have been emailing back and forth with them. he hasnt built a set of logs for the 4.3 yet, but he has the jig made up and plans to make a set this week and send me pictures. he sent me pics of his 2.2 log, appears that he is using stainless weld-els and tig welding it all together as well as using what appears to be a 1/2'' flange. looks like solid work and the weld-els are very thick walled and should keep the cost down.
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08-22-2009, 03:15 AM	#19
lsxblack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2 Mach turbo FTW! hahaha yeeeeah they produced a few of those their fail rate was much higher than success. Other guys on this forum have made bigger gains. I wouldn't have mach work on my riding lawn mower haha
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08-22-2009, 06:23 PM	#20
sy-clone TURBOS SUCK Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 732 Location: Puerto Rico User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Here's what I had to do to clear the cobra head and hook up the trans cooler lines on the rad. http://www.hotrodders.com/journal_ph...1320652721.jpg
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08-22-2009, 07:56 PM	#21
[sf]_viper Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 23 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 tony, you got any more pics of that. i am running into the same issue as we speak. (this is the man formerly known as zygoat) maybe you can pm, me some links so we dont whore up this tread
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08-22-2009, 10:58 PM	#22
King_Ice_Flash2 Will work for turbo parts Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,783 Location: SE, WI User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 My cobra head won't clear the RADIATOR.
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08-23-2009, 12:12 AM	#23
cs xtreme boosted 2.2L Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,437 Location: Colorado Springs User is: Online	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 not sure about the 4.3 kit but he uses a off brand cheap turbo on his 2.2L setup
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08-23-2009, 02:09 AM	#24
12sws27 Traction not found here! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 678 Location: Miami,FL User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 I emailed DTS with a few questions and these were the answers I got. Q.)What brand turbo does it use? A.)Normally a generic T3/T4 but we can put together a price for any name brand turbo as well. Q.)Do you only offer it as a whole kit or can a person buy parts of the kit? A.)We can sell it as a whole, in pieces, partially customized, or fully customized. You can choose from tubular turbo headers and log style manifolds. Q.)Would the kit also include a PCM tune? A.)Normally does Q.)Is the kit ready and up for sale? A.)Yes Q.)What warranty is offered on the turbo it's self? A.) Depends on turbo, some have a year some have as little as 3 months but we have never had any trouble with any of them.
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08-23-2009, 03:06 AM	#25
tretiak Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 143 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 in for pictures of the manifolds i think i might put off bagging my truck
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08-24-2009, 03:43 PM	#26
sy-clone TURBOS SUCK Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 732 Location: Puerto Rico User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Quote: Originally Posted by [sf]_viper tony, you got any more pics of that. i am running into the same issue as we speak. (this is the man formerly known as zygoat) maybe you can pm, me some links so we dont whore up this tread PM sent
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08-24-2009, 08:26 PM	#27
s10dollar Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Blue Springs User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 alright boys girl gave the so its on almost got the money will be done BY christmas things to order before are wideband a/f new spintech and magnaflow cat and prolly some diff rear gears i dont think those 3.08s will do much
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08-24-2009, 08:27 PM	#28
s10dollar Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Blue Springs User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 also what would be a good cost effective turbo besides the generic he is offering?
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08-24-2009, 08:50 PM	#29
cs xtreme boosted 2.2L Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,437 Location: Colorado Springs User is: Online	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Quote: Originally Posted by s10dollar also what would be a good cost effective turbo besides the generic he is offering? this one gets my vote. http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...R_714568_3.htm but depends on goals I guess.
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08-24-2009, 10:55 PM	#30
70welder Taste Like It Smells... Age: 19 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 416 Location: Blackstone, MA User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 i would consider this kit, if only i had the cashflow
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09-07-2009, 11:45 PM	#31
Lspwr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 I'm down, but I still would like to see some real world results first.
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10-02-2009, 06:18 PM	#32
circa ɔıɹɔ& Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,083 Location: Puyallup, Wa User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Should see if DTS will sell you the mani's/crossover/downpipe. Possibly cheaper then buying whole kit if you do the rest yourself.
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10-20-2009, 03:50 AM	#33
tretiak Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 143 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 got an email from dave. i asked how much power the kit makes 300-350 wheel horsepower on a stock engine with about 300 ft/lbs of torque. The kit is capable of 500whp with a strengthened engine. Thanks, David DeKerlegand DeKerlegand Turbo Systems LLC looks like im getting a block and heads and getting it built Last edited by tretiak : 10-20-2009 at 03:51 AM.
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10-24-2009, 04:02 AM	#34
94s10cpi What Now!!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 350 Location: H-Town User is: OffLine	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 I'm also curious in how this goes.. I'm planning on buying it next winter if everything works out fine with the kit. Does anyone know if it comes with the exhaust parts after the turbo or what? I see where the 2.2 turbo kits do. I didn't see anything that really said if they did or not. I still wanna see more pictures of the kit. I guess their working on that. Last edited by 94s10cpi : 10-24-2009 at 04:05 AM.
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10-24-2009, 08:20 PM	#35
03zq8s10 Got boost? Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 804 Location: Killen, Alabama User is: Online	Re: dts stage one for 4.3 Quote: Originally Posted by 94s10cpi I'm also curious in how this goes.. I'm planning on buying it next winter if everything works out fine with the kit. Does anyone know if it comes with the exhaust parts after the turbo or what? I see where the 2.2 turbo kits do. I didn't see anything that really said if they did or not. I still wanna see more pictures of the kit. I guess their working on that. I'm curious as well. If this kit proves to be a good investment it is definitely something I will buy in the near future.
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