Built 4.3 turbo underway Pics will talk

[meyers2211]

more progress finally broke out of the cold weather. I had to relocate the knock sensor because its an 2001 block wit a 1997 harness. so i relocated it to the drvr side water port. The only minor delays on the motor that still need to be done are EGR moved to pass side. Other than that the majority of the harness is on but i now have clearance issues with the harness and the turbo so i will work on that

I still need to find:
NON a/c blower + box for firewall ASAP
Adjustable FMU

pm me if u got em



some more pics


Set the distributor



New frame pads and new wire loom to replace cracked



Making some room with a sledge hammer to get more clearance in the tranny tunnel, and to help getting that bitch of a bolt top drvr side on the NV3500



Heres the motor 90% complete not much left

[cycle252]

awsome cant wait to see the finish product might even start on mine soon. but first i got to same some more money for my non-balance shaft motor that on an engine stand in my shop

[DeViL]

Honestly I would of waited to put the intake on when it was inside the truck. It's just going to be a bit more annoying for you to get behind it now to bolt up everything that needs to be on the back of the engine once it's in the truck. I did that and it just made things a little more easier.

[98 SS]

eh, 6 one way half dozen the other. ive done my motor both ways and the intake doesnt make too much of a difference difficulty wise.

[flawlessfab]

hey if you go to rockauto.com and look up your make and model you can search for a a/c delete pulley. they got ones that bolt to the front of your a/c-power steering bracket or ones that bolt down in place where the a/c compressor mounted....good pricing also

[meyers2211]

update i got my shipment from summit today, the motor mounts gave me a fight but after some work with the grinder she fit. Driver side was fine but pass required the manifold to be grinded down some as well as the motor mount. I don't think i took off enough to compromise the strength. I chained up the motor to get ready for the mating of the tranny and plans are to get her in by the weekend. I have a few loose ends to tie up, such as extending the o2 sensor wires, and i have a group of wires destroyed as u can see in the pic. So that will need fixing, along wit figuring out the battery relocation.


driver side problem




problem fixed



pass side



my new headache



motor now ready for hoist

[cycle252]

wow how did those wires become so toasty what a small fire?

[meyers2211]

i had to post this, turbo in.

[02_Black_XBlazer]

Nice. I'd be grinning ear-to-ear too.

[Zygoat]

nice, i asked this already but i don't know if you saw it. where did you get the turbo from?

[meyers2211]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zygoat

nice, i asked this already but i don't know if you saw it. where did you get the turbo from?

miketurboinc
$652 shipped with the vband thru paypal got it out in 5 days

Sales/Service
Mike Turbo inc
305-885-9082 Shop
305-525-4886 Cell

[jrb007]

That's a nice setup I would love to have it on my 5.7 I'm building!!!

[94lowroller]

hey rat i was wondering...people dont know how to get better fuel pressure for boost...im not the smartest when it comes to fuel injection but couldnt u take the injector out of a newer v-8..... a while back when i blew up the motor in my 1500 i was goin to replace it with a v-8 cause they were exactly alike jus v-8 was bigger...so do u think the injector could work in the v-6 and give it more fuel for boost or would it b the same injector size and all that as the v-6 beings the they are the same jus 2 less cylinders

[rat]

Quote: Originally Posted by 94lowroller

hey rat i was wondering...people dont know how to get better fuel pressure for boost...im not the smartest when it comes to fuel injection but couldnt u take the injector out of a newer v-8..... a while back when i blew up the motor in my 1500 i was goin to replace it with a v-8 cause they were exactly alike jus v-8 was bigger...so do u think the injector could work in the v-6 and give it more fuel for boost or would it b the same injector size and all that as the v-6 beings the they are the same jus 2 less cylinders

I replied to your email, but the injectors are the same flow rating. There are just 2 more of them. The 4.3 and 5.7 of the same era make the same power per cylinder.

[Zygoat]

never heard of master power before. they supposed to be good? let us know how it works out.

[rentedmule]

Have you found an adjustable FMU yet? i picked up a new cartech billet one from ebay - seller's name was 16249. I paid $175 USD which was the cheapest I found anywhere. even used vortech supers and the older model cartech's go for over $100 on ebay. Good seller too, we had customs problems getting it to canada and he went out of his way to get it to me. I can email him and see if he has anymore if you want

[02_Vortech]

master power has a good reputation. They are used quite alot these days. Im going to a Masterpower unless i get a holset HX35.

[project2001]

ouch you got hurt on that MP turbo, i can get them from the same people for a little over 500 shipped.

anyway, the setup looks good, i have been thinking about doing a turbo 4.3 in my brothers 1st gen sonoma. can you just flip the manifolds side to side?...that would make things alot easier. that .68 housing you have will support all the power you wanna make, alot of the 5.0 mustang guys are going low 10s on them. so they are good turbos

[meyers2211]

Well the turbo flange didn't quite work the master power turbo hits the alt, so i spent yesterday cutting if off, and had my buddy matt come over tonite to weld it back up. by the end of the nite we ended up with








Motor will go in tmr (fingers crossed) i have friday sat and sun to do it.

to respond to the FMU question. Fmu's suck to begin with so i really want a name brand adjustable. The super fmu is 320 bucks but fuel is the most important part of not kissing my setup goodbye.

To respond to the MP price. I called 4 dealers and two told me they can't get them because master power is revamping their company in brazil they told me it could be months. The two dealers i found that had em in stock was priced at $600 + shipping and 550 plus shipping. and the 1 one guy honored his old price 550 everythough their was a recent price increase.

[project2001]

either way, you cant beat the quality of the master power turbos for the price. i just called the guy i get my turbo supplies from, and a t70 w/ a .68 is 550shipped for me. so price has went up(from 520shipped)

your truck should run very well with that turbo, it will support all the power you need, and then some, good luck, keep us updated...

[project2001]

looking over the pictures again, is that hotside pipe right in the way of the lower radiator hose?...it may just be the pictures, but i dont see how your gonna get a lower hose on there. not knocking your work or anything, might end up doing this same setup. can you flip the headers side to side on the 4.3s?

[meyers2211]

hahaha u had me worried cause it looks really bad, i had to go look outside at it. Its jus the way it looks, i test fit it, and even though this isn't the best angle u get the idea

[project2001]

good deal , just wanna make sure there isnt any hold ups in getting this thing going, i wanna see how fast it spools and how it runs

[rentedmule]

I got the impression from net sources and other people on the forum that the Cartech was one of the best FMU's on the market. It also has more adjustments than the vortech super. I don't have any experience with these things though so it's just going on what i've read.

Billet FMU

[meyers2211]

the whole build jus got worse, now i bought these from a guy that ran these on his blazer, idk how its possible but the steering column is giving me lots of problems. the header is hitting badd, i need another 1".

here are some more pics

rewiring to move away from turbo


ARp bolts and flywheel


motor ready to go in




HERES the proble,m







if u guys could help me out

i have a reg power steering box

do xtreme the quik ratio boxes any different????
could the guy had it in a 4wd?
would a manual box give me mroe clearance

i've searched and the only fix to this i think is to reweld the manifold and pipe, but i'm curious for your input, basically is there any other s10 that would have the steering column moved over/ skinnier steering column

[s10ls]

if you have the hood clearance you could try putting spacers in the motor mounts to lift the engine up a little to clear, just a quick thought

otherwise i think your stuck with reworking the steering shaft or clearancing your manifold

[firedog]

Look into the Unisteer Rack and Pinion I saw something on it and the shaft looks a litle different it might help but it'll add cost like a grand.

[asdfg]

Im boosting my 2.2 with a wideband aem o2 sensor w. gague and a aem rising rate adj. FPR.

[98 SS]

A couple things.............

Dont use those crimp terminals when your extending your wires. your asking for a world of trouble and a nightmare of troubleshooting when they start acting up. solder and shrinkwrap your wires. ive been there and done that. after so many times of heating up and cooling down you are gonna have issues..............TRUST ME! Its worth it to take the time and do it all now while its out instead of trying to work with everything in the way

also you may want to look into the jeep steering shaft conversion. i believe it replaces the rag joint with a U-joint. little more responsive and if I remember right it allows for more clearance. i havnt seen anything on it in a long time. but its around here somewhere.

[King_Ice_Flash2]

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

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if u guys could help me out

i have a reg power steering box

do xtreme the quik ratio boxes any different????
could the guy had it in a 4wd?
would a manual box give me mroe clearance

i've searched and the only fix to this i think is to reweld the manifold and pipe, but i'm curious for your input, basically is there any other s10 that would have the steering column moved over/ skinnier steering column

The ZQ8 steering box is like 3.75 turns lock to lock while the STD is like 6.5. The extended cab has a bit tighter ratio if I remember right, but not much. The Xtreme should have the tighter ratio.

The 4WD box just turns the wheels further, same ratio as the standard.

The boxes them selves are exactly the same housing on the outside. Think the pitman arm might be different on the ZR2?

[98 SS]

Quote: Originally Posted by asdfg

Im boosting my 2.2 with a wideband aem o2 sensor w. gague and a aem rising rate adj. FPR.

and?

[meyers2211]

I really appreciate the responses guys.

it looks the only way to solve the problem is to cut the mani up further and re work the piping. So i called my buddy matt and he said he will come out and weld her up


I'm looked into many dif ways to get me out of this jam. I emailed Unisteer about the R&P steering, As well as checked out the pics, unfortunately is would relocate the steering down to towards the crossover but inquired about possible sponsorship

I checked out manual boxes that will bolt in and it would be nice to get rid of power steering but i'm concerned about regretting it, i'm a strong guy but jus haven't heard anybody say they had manual steering idk how it will be.

I emailed RPM about their steering column and waiting for a response

[meyers2211]

thanks for the tips, i always crimp and yank on it to make sure she won't come loose, i've yet to have problems but i can see how the might down the road

Quote: Originally Posted by 98 SS

A couple things.............

Dont use those crimp terminals when your extending your wires. your asking for a world of trouble and a nightmare of troubleshooting when they start acting up. solder and shrinkwrap your wires. ive been there and done that. after so many times of heating up and cooling down you are gonna have issues..............TRUST ME! Its worth it to take the time and do it all now while its out instead of trying to work with everything in the way

also you may want to look into the jeep steering shaft conversion. i believe it replaces the rag joint with a U-joint. little more responsive and if I remember right it allows for more clearance. i havnt seen anything on it in a long time. but its around here somewhere.

[Zygoat]

idk about a manual steering box. its pretty easy to turn when you are driving but when you are stopped or moving slow (ie parking) its a real pita and a workout. especially if you have big tires,i have a zr2 and i wouldn't do it on there, i think you have a normal s10, if thats so you might be able to get away with it as long as you don't mind working

personally i would just fix the pipes like you said.

just my opinion

[DistortedDreamerz]

damn .. man .. i wanna do this to mine soon

[98 SS]

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

thanks for the tips, i always crimp and yank on it to make sure she won't come loose, i've yet to have problems but i can see how the might down the road

That's how I used to do it too. But I've seen the light. After a year of chasing gremlins and rewiring only to have to problem reoccur again a month later.

SOLDER, especially ignition wires, and crank position sensor wires, and maf wires, and ...........lol......ALL OF THEM.


You will thank yourself later



Did you find the jeep shaft conversion? I'm typing from my phone, kind of a pain to surf through threads. But I think it used a thinner shaft. I remember looking at it when I did my long tubes.

[shift220]

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

Not sure if this has been discussed before but is that a narrowband 02 sensor in your crossover pipe? I don't know about about narrowbands but widebands have to be put after the turbo and not very close. I put my narrowband underneath the truck and spliced it so the computer gets the signal from one sensor for both "banks".

[BudRacing]

The reason the stock manifolds worked in the blazer is probably because the blazer's engine is mounted close to an inch higher and matched with a slight body lift.
Cutting and rewelding that pipe to work around it would probably be a simpler/less expensive solution than remounting the engine.

[94lowroller]

Have you ever thought of just finding another mani that fits the regular way on that side of the motor then u wont have no clearance probs and u could just run the pipe inbetween the crossmember and the oil pan maybe. im not sure but it might be the easiest way.

[firedog]

Also if you are not into the Jeep conversion you can just get stuff from Borgeson they do steering shafts and U-joints.

[ncsuper10]

you can check with LMC, for that non ac pulley, i think its roud $30

[WHASZUP1]

it all comes down to i think if i put a larger a/r on it, i will only see boost at 4000 plus rpm

again jus my thoughts don't know if i'm correct.[/quote]

I am not new here, but my profile just disapered suddenly, so I am here under a new name.

anyways, for the most part you are correct, the higher rpm the better spooling you have. However, the other thing that can also help spool a turbo faster is big ol' cubes. The fact that you and a lot of us (not all) are running a big displacment v6's should help a lot in spooling a turbo. I just know that about turbo engines, not from doing it on these engines myself. That is also my thoughts. I am at work right now, so I can't see your pics. From what I am reading good job so far and good luck.

[NeverEnough188]

cant wait to see this finished and get some vids up!

[meyers2211]

Quote: Originally Posted by BudRacing

The reason the stock manifolds worked in the blazer is probably because the blazer's engine is mounted close to an inch higher and matched with a slight body lift.
Cutting and rewelding that pipe to work around it would probably be a simpler/less expensive solution than remounting the engine.

thats exactly the answer i thought it would be. I'm waiting on matt to come over modify the header, since then i've got the intercooler in, some fittings and the aem wideband is getting here tmr. caught one for $260shipped new on ebay

more good news i had a sponsorship agency call me today to talk about a proposal, my buddy did it for his ride and got some parts so lets see what i could get, goodie list is

set of rims and tires for show use only
wilwood front brakes
kicker audio
recaro seats w/ harnesses

i checked out the company and they are legit, if not money back return 99dollar fee one time. I've seen many sponsorship comp. give partial discount but they promised me they are really only into fully sponsored parts

heres the intercooler, notice the endtank design i searched for a long time to get that design as opposed to the crappy standard ebay crap (yes i picked this up off ebay) but paid a lot over $170 as opposed to 80bucks for the crappy designed ones

[Zygoat]

that is a really nice intercooler where'd you get it(i know eBay but what seller) and do you know the company name?

[King_Ice_Flash2]

I'd get the brakes.

[meyers2211]

Great news i finally got a call back from the gentlemen i bought the motor from and he has a custom steering shaft that he ran, big relief so that will enable me to move forward, since then i've gotten in the AEM wideband and modded up the PS pump took about 90 minutes to get her all cut up jus left to smooth it out. I give sole credit to Crew cab sonoma for the inspiration




and the new belt setup, my buddy works at pepboys so it was easy to fit the belt got the right size second time around.

[02_Vortech]

good for you man.


im getting ready to relocate my battery and make a new radiator resviour...... getting ready for snail under the hood maybe...... jut maybe...... dont know where im gonna put my ECU though

[WHASZUP1]

Quote: Originally Posted by 02_Vortech

good for you man.


im getting ready to relocate my battery and make a new radiator resviour...... getting ready for snail under the hood maybe...... jut maybe...... dont know where im gonna put my ECU though

you can fit one where the battery goes. Maybe a little trimming of the inner fender, And Thermo rap the living hell out of it.

[meyers2211]

Engine vs truck round 2 ding ding ding...


Great news, i went with the logical solution, took my spare exhaust manifold cut it up, cut up the crossover. Pulled the motor back out thru it in my dads hemi which the parents were on vacation and brought the whole engine/tranny down to the welding shop. I had to call 40+ shops to get some1 who would touch the cast iron welding. I brought it down and the guy welded up the steel to the cast iron in 20 minutes $40 bucks, from there i brought it down to a performance muffler shop and they did the other 6 inches of piping $45 bucks with some extra gaskets. From there it was still a tight fit so we swapped out steering shafts and it was fine but i banged in the steel for extra comfort. Painted her up and i'm ready to rock and roll.

Causalities= chain jus caught the lip on the distributor cap and rip it to pieces

Things left before final assembly

Frame pads need to get adjusted 1/4"
Ignition wires and replace distributor cap
Reassemble exhaust
Fuel lines

And please if anybody knows where i can find one i need a NON ac blower box asap!!!!!!!!!

i posted a wanted add awile ago and been searching ebay,classifieds etc. And s10 warehouse doesn't have em cause obviously FLa trucks have ac