This must be a joke ? Firing order...

Jesper · 11-01-2009, 06:21 PM

Found this on another forum site :

CAB
6-5
4-1
2-3
GRILL

Is this in reference to the cap or the engine?

The engine goes:

CAB
6-5
4-3
2-1
GRILL

Right?

03blazer · 11-01-2009, 06:47 PM

Firing on a 4.3 is 1-6-5-4-3-2 if I'm not mistaken.

Doesn't matter where they go on the cap as long as they are in that order.

pack of q tips · 11-01-2009, 06:57 PM

Actually it does matter where they go on the cap. The cap is labeled to help you out

03blazer · 11-01-2009, 07:01 PM

Actually, it depends on which engine it has in it... And, no, it doesn't really matter where they go. It'll still run fine if they're in the correct order. I moved mine around so it would make routing them easier.

Jesper · 11-01-2009, 07:15 PM

I must be absolutely honest, i didn't understand that at all.

Move them around? doesn't really matter where they go on the cap?

I made a search on this because I'm wondering if I mixed up number 1 and 3 when I put it back together after the LIM gasket change.

03blazer · 11-01-2009, 07:18 PM

It matters what order they go in, just not where they are on the cap. I'm assuming you have the crab style cap with the posts on the sides. They should all be labeled on the cap.

Jesper · 11-01-2009, 07:23 PM

yes and yes. but in the first post. it's the last one that is correct in reference to where the wires go on the engine right?

destroked blazer · 11-01-2009, 07:24 PM

if you set the motor on top dead then just drop the distributor in where the rotor is pointing you could use as number one. it dont matter where the wires are as long as the rotor points at number one wire when on top dead because it will still fire the right. i have done this in the past and if you think about it you will see what im talking about

03blazer · 11-01-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jesper

yes and yes. but in the first post. it's the last one that is correct in reference to where the wires go on the engine right?

Yes the last one is the correct one.

destroked blazer · 11-01-2009, 07:29 PM

i almost forgot the crab cap the must go where they belong to run right and

6-5
4-1
2-3 is the way they are numbered on the cap
passenger side of cap front to rear is 246 then coil and driver front to rear on the cap is 315

Jesper · 11-01-2009, 07:32 PM

thanks!

pack of q tips · 11-01-2009, 07:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer

It matters what order they go in, just not where they are on the cap. I'm assuming you have the crab style cap with the posts on the sides. They should all be labeled on the cap.

It most certainly matters where they go on the cap on the vortec motors.

03blazer · 11-01-2009, 07:49 PM

Hmm... tell that to the engine in my Blazer...

The only one you can't move is the coil wire...

pack of q tips · 11-01-2009, 07:58 PM

The plugs on the cap are not in firing order. They are set up so wires don't have to cross over the cap to go to the Correct plug

Crew Cab Sonoma · 11-01-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jesper

Found this on another forum site :

CAB
6-5
4-1
2-3
GRILL

Is this in reference to the cap or the engine?

The engine goes:

CAB
6-5
4-3
2-1
GRILL

Right?

the top figure is correct for 96-later dist. caps.

the bottom figure is the correct cylinder numbering
for the engine itself, for all years of 4.3's.

Jesper · 11-01-2009, 09:06 PM

what about a 1995 dist cap?

Crew Cab Sonoma · 11-01-2009, 09:45 PM

95-older, are vertical terminal, and not arranged
"side-to-side" like the late models.
they just start where ever #1 is/was, and go clockwise
from there, following the firing order. 1-6-5-4-3-2...

poconojoe · 11-02-2009, 07:05 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer

Hmm... tell that to the engine in my Blazer...

The only one you can't move is the coil wire...

Since the cam sensor in the distrubuter has to be synced with the rotor and cam timing, you're a moron if you think it doesn't mater where the wires go on the cap. It might run but not correctly and I doubt if it will run at all.

Crew Cab Sonoma · 11-02-2009, 09:18 AM

i'm just wondering how he gets some of his plug wires
to stretch around to other side of the cap...

03blazer · 11-02-2009, 05:02 PM

The cap I have is aftermarket... The posts are not labeled on mine. Idk why... It came from Accel that way... I can move the wires wherever I want on the cap and it runs fine... as long as they're in correct firing order...

Anyways, that doesn't matter...

To the OP, I hope your questions have been answered and I apologize for the slight thread-jacking...

pack of q tips · 11-02-2009, 05:33 PM

so you have an aftermarket ignition system?? thats a whole different story

95tahoelt · 11-02-2009, 07:43 PM

[quote=03blazer;6605563]The cap I have is aftermarket... The posts are not labeled on mine. Idk why... It came from Accel that way... I can move the wires wherever I want on the cap and it runs fine... as long as they're in correct firing order...

Anyways, that doesn't matter...

I just pulled a Accel Dist and rotor cap off my blazer and That thing is the worst quailty I have seen, a year old and they were junk.
There is No way it will run right crossing wires. Dont be a morron!!!!!!!!

03blazer · 11-02-2009, 07:47 PM

[quote=95tahoelt;6605833]

Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer

The cap I have is aftermarket... The posts are not labeled on mine. Idk why... It came from Accel that way... I can move the wires wherever I want on the cap and it runs fine... as long as they're in correct firing order...

Anyways, that doesn't matter...

I just pulled a Accel Dist and rotor cap off my blazer and That thing is the worst quailty I have seen, a year old and they were junk.
There is No way it will run right crossing wires. Dont be a morron!!!!!!!!

You guys can think what you want... I really don't care. There is no point in starting an argument over it. And if you're gonna call someone a moron, learn how to spell it first, @$$hole!

pack of q tips · 11-02-2009, 07:56 PM

does your aftermarket cap look like the stock cap or do you have an old style cap where the plugs point straight up and down?

03blazer · 11-02-2009, 08:26 PM

It's the crab style cap. I have never seen one like it. I'd show you a pic of it if I were home. I'm on deployment now... It's made a little different than the Vortec cap. Looks almost just like it, but it's almost smooth on top.

83blazer28 · 11-02-2009, 09:03 PM

i hardly believed it the first time someone told me the firing order on a 2.8 is 1-2-3-4-5-6, i looked at them like they had six heads

95tahoelt · 11-03-2009, 03:21 AM

[quote=03blazer;6605837]

Quote: Originally Posted by 95tahoelt

You guys can think what you want... I really don't care. There is no point in starting an argument over it. And if you're gonna call someone a moron, learn how to spell it first, @$$hole!

Excuse me, I read and write in 4 langauge's and can speak 6...
sometimes flipping the switch is confusing.....
Actully a morron is a pepper.

Crew Cab Sonoma · 11-03-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer

It's the crab style cap. I have never seen one like it. I'd show you a pic of it if I were home. I'm on deployment now... It's made a little different than the Vortec cap. Looks almost just like it, but it's almost smooth on top.

i'm sure the order of the terminals is the same as stock.
the question is why would you even want to alter the
wires from their original positions, since some of the wires
would have to cross over to the far side of the cap???
kinda deafeats the purpose of the "crab" style cap,
doesnt it?

and you would likely have to have some kind of
"universal fit" wires to achieve this....
i dont think stock or stock replacements would have
enough lenght to achieve this.

SH-60B · 11-03-2009, 10:57 AM

[quote=95tahoelt;6606683]

Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer

Excuse me, I read and write in 4 langauge's and can speak 6...
sometimes flipping the switch is confusing.....
Actully a morron is a pepper.

You forgot to "flip the switch" on the word actually, you "morron".

Crew Cab Sonoma · 11-03-2009, 11:32 AM

did you just call him a "pepper"???

Draggin88 · 11-03-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by poconojoe

Since the cam sensor in the distrubuter has to be synced with the rotor and cam timing, you're a moron if you think it doesn't mater where the wires go on the cap. It might run but not correctly and I doubt if it will run at all.

This thread is full of fail. Isn't it?

11-01-2009, 06:21 PM	#1
Jesper Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 118 Location: User is: OffLine	This must be a joke ? Firing order... Found this on another forum site : CAB 6-5 4-1 2-3 GRILL Is this in reference to the cap or the engine? The engine goes: CAB 6-5 4-3 2-1 GRILL Right?
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11-01-2009, 06:47 PM	#2
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Firing on a 4.3 is 1-6-5-4-3-2 if I'm not mistaken. Doesn't matter where they go on the cap as long as they are in that order.
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11-01-2009, 06:57 PM	#3
pack of q tips Founding member of DA Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,984 Location: massachusetts User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Actually it does matter where they go on the cap. The cap is labeled to help you out
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11-01-2009, 07:01 PM	#4
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Actually, it depends on which engine it has in it... And, no, it doesn't really matter where they go. It'll still run fine if they're in the correct order. I moved mine around so it would make routing them easier.
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11-01-2009, 07:15 PM	#5
Jesper Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 118 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... I must be absolutely honest, i didn't understand that at all. Move them around? doesn't really matter where they go on the cap? I made a search on this because I'm wondering if I mixed up number 1 and 3 when I put it back together after the LIM gasket change.
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11-01-2009, 07:18 PM	#6
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... It matters what order they go in, just not where they are on the cap. I'm assuming you have the crab style cap with the posts on the sides. They should all be labeled on the cap.
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11-01-2009, 07:23 PM	#7
Jesper Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 118 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... yes and yes. but in the first post. it's the last one that is correct in reference to where the wires go on the engine right?
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11-01-2009, 07:24 PM	#8
destroked blazer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 26 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... if you set the motor on top dead then just drop the distributor in where the rotor is pointing you could use as number one. it dont matter where the wires are as long as the rotor points at number one wire when on top dead because it will still fire the right. i have done this in the past and if you think about it you will see what im talking about
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11-01-2009, 07:27 PM	#9
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Quote: Originally Posted by Jesper yes and yes. but in the first post. it's the last one that is correct in reference to where the wires go on the engine right? Yes the last one is the correct one.
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11-01-2009, 07:29 PM	#10
destroked blazer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 26 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... i almost forgot the crab cap the must go where they belong to run right and 6-5 4-1 2-3 is the way they are numbered on the cap passenger side of cap front to rear is 246 then coil and driver front to rear on the cap is 315
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11-01-2009, 07:32 PM	#11
Jesper Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 118 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... thanks!
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11-01-2009, 07:38 PM	#12
pack of q tips Founding member of DA Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,984 Location: massachusetts User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer It matters what order they go in, just not where they are on the cap. I'm assuming you have the crab style cap with the posts on the sides. They should all be labeled on the cap. It most certainly matters where they go on the cap on the vortec motors.
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11-01-2009, 07:49 PM	#13
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Hmm... tell that to the engine in my Blazer... The only one you can't move is the coil wire... Last edited by 03blazer : 11-01-2009 at 07:51 PM.
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11-01-2009, 07:58 PM	#14
pack of q tips Founding member of DA Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,984 Location: massachusetts User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... The plugs on the cap are not in firing order. They are set up so wires don't have to cross over the cap to go to the Correct plug
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11-01-2009, 08:23 PM	#15
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,842 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Quote: Originally Posted by Jesper Found this on another forum site : CAB 6-5 4-1 2-3 GRILL Is this in reference to the cap or the engine? The engine goes: CAB 6-5 4-3 2-1 GRILL Right? the top figure is correct for 96-later dist. caps. the bottom figure is the correct cylinder numbering for the engine itself, for all years of 4.3's.
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11-01-2009, 09:06 PM	#16
Jesper Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 118 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... what about a 1995 dist cap?
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11-01-2009, 09:45 PM	#17
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,842 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... 95-older, are vertical terminal, and not arranged "side-to-side" like the late models. they just start where ever #1 is/was, and go clockwise from there, following the firing order. 1-6-5-4-3-2...
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11-02-2009, 07:05 AM	#18
poconojoe Registered User Age: 56 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,403 Location: NEPA User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer Hmm... tell that to the engine in my Blazer... The only one you can't move is the coil wire... Since the cam sensor in the distrubuter has to be synced with the rotor and cam timing, you're a moron if you think it doesn't mater where the wires go on the cap. It might run but not correctly and I doubt if it will run at all.
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11-02-2009, 09:18 AM	#19
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,842 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... i'm just wondering how he gets some of his plug wires to stretch around to other side of the cap...
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11-02-2009, 05:02 PM	#20
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... The cap I have is aftermarket... The posts are not labeled on mine. Idk why... It came from Accel that way... I can move the wires wherever I want on the cap and it runs fine... as long as they're in correct firing order... Anyways, that doesn't matter... To the OP, I hope your questions have been answered and I apologize for the slight thread-jacking... Last edited by 03blazer : 11-02-2009 at 05:04 PM.
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11-02-2009, 05:33 PM	#21
pack of q tips Founding member of DA Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,984 Location: massachusetts User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... so you have an aftermarket ignition system?? thats a whole different story
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11-02-2009, 07:43 PM	#22
95tahoelt Registered User Age: 41 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 399 Location: Westland, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... [quote=03blazer;6605563]The cap I have is aftermarket... The posts are not labeled on mine. Idk why... It came from Accel that way... I can move the wires wherever I want on the cap and it runs fine... as long as they're in correct firing order... Anyways, that doesn't matter... I just pulled a Accel Dist and rotor cap off my blazer and That thing is the worst quailty I have seen, a year old and they were junk. There is No way it will run right crossing wires. Dont be a morron!!!!!!!!
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11-02-2009, 07:47 PM	#23
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... [quote=95tahoelt;6605833] Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer The cap I have is aftermarket... The posts are not labeled on mine. Idk why... It came from Accel that way... I can move the wires wherever I want on the cap and it runs fine... as long as they're in correct firing order... Anyways, that doesn't matter... I just pulled a Accel Dist and rotor cap off my blazer and That thing is the worst quailty I have seen, a year old and they were junk. There is No way it will run right crossing wires. Dont be a morron!!!!!!!! You guys can think what you want... I really don't care. There is no point in starting an argument over it. And if you're gonna call someone a moron, learn how to spell it first, @$$hole!
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11-02-2009, 07:56 PM	#24
pack of q tips Founding member of DA Age: 27 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,984 Location: massachusetts User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... does your aftermarket cap look like the stock cap or do you have an old style cap where the plugs point straight up and down?
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11-02-2009, 08:26 PM	#25
03blazer Gettin' ready for V8! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 338 Location: Gulfport, MS User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... It's the crab style cap. I have never seen one like it. I'd show you a pic of it if I were home. I'm on deployment now... It's made a little different than the Vortec cap. Looks almost just like it, but it's almost smooth on top.
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83blazer28 paint color? ... Mud =D Age: 17 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,239 Location: Baltimore, MD User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... i hardly believed it the first time someone told me the firing order on a 2.8 is 1-2-3-4-5-6, i looked at them like they had six heads
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11-03-2009, 03:21 AM	#27
95tahoelt Registered User Age: 41 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 399 Location: Westland, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... [quote=03blazer;6605837] Quote: Originally Posted by 95tahoelt You guys can think what you want... I really don't care. There is no point in starting an argument over it. And if you're gonna call someone a moron, learn how to spell it first, @$$hole! Excuse me, I read and write in 4 langauge's and can speak 6... sometimes flipping the switch is confusing..... Actully a morron is a pepper.
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11-03-2009, 10:51 AM	#28
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,842 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer It's the crab style cap. I have never seen one like it. I'd show you a pic of it if I were home. I'm on deployment now... It's made a little different than the Vortec cap. Looks almost just like it, but it's almost smooth on top. i'm sure the order of the terminals is the same as stock. the question is why would you even want to alter the wires from their original positions, since some of the wires would have to cross over to the far side of the cap??? kinda deafeats the purpose of the "crab" style cap, doesnt it? and you would likely have to have some kind of "universal fit" wires to achieve this.... i dont think stock or stock replacements would have enough lenght to achieve this. Last edited by Crew Cab Sonoma : 11-03-2009 at 10:53 AM.
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11-03-2009, 10:57 AM	#29
SH-60B Registered Neanderthal Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,335 Location: Meriden/CT/USA User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... [quote=95tahoelt;6606683] Quote: Originally Posted by 03blazer Excuse me, I read and write in 4 langauge's and can speak 6... sometimes flipping the switch is confusing..... Actully a morron is a pepper. You forgot to "flip the switch" on the word actually, you "morron".
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11-03-2009, 11:32 AM	#30
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,842 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... did you just call him a "pepper"???
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11-03-2009, 12:09 PM	#31
Draggin88 405AWDHP Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,888 Location: With your wife! User is: OffLine	Re: This must be a joke ? Firing order... Quote: Originally Posted by poconojoe Since the cam sensor in the distrubuter has to be synced with the rotor and cam timing, you're a moron if you think it doesn't mater where the wires go on the cap. It might run but not correctly and I doubt if it will run at all. This thread is full of fail. Isn't it?
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