my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

[muckRunner]

Quote: Originally Posted by dustin_shull

Just got my pcm in today, and it kicks ass! Feels great through out the entire power band. Shifts feel great. No SES light. All in all the best $157.xx i ever spent on my truck. With my 235's It will burn into second from a 10 mph roll

hells yeah! i wonder what it'll do with my 255/65/15s thick tire i know but the fronts are smaller and im going for the nostalgic muscle car look.

i would have ordered the pcm last week but two weekends in a row two of my clients were fg no-shows. i have a regular job during the week and tat on the weekends for extra cash. i told them one no-show and they can find someone else to give their money to. i dont have time to wait for them when they are the ones who want my art. oh, sorry about the rant but you all understand.

[s10baller2000]

How do you guys with 4wd liked the tune? difference in tourqe? My blazer feels like a turd with the 32s on it with 373 gears. you think I will feel the difference?

and also I talked to a shop about doing a crank relearn for the new pcm and they said that all you do is drive around and it will learn it itself. anyone ever heard of that? I thought you had to do it with a diognostic machine?

thanks
kyle

[RaginInferno]

Jesse did the tune on my 2000 7.4 Crew Cab Dually and it's the best money I spent on it....Period!

My 1999 Xtreme is next....

[Daveman2]

WTF is this crank re-learn bullsh*t? Yeah your computer will trip balls for a bit but after I drove a few blocks it got better, it happens when i disconnect my battery for more than 20 minutes.

He DOES remove torque management, I can chip my tires like hell, 1-2 and 2-3 shifts

[556mm]

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10

ok fellas i decided to give the pcm another try. same results as last time. at idle it spits/sputters like it wants to die. i don't get it. 96s dont need to crank relearn right? that's just for 98 and up right?

any takers?

[y.z.kid09]

can you eliminate the o2 sensors when doing this tune

[Merritt]

Quote: Originally Posted by s10baller2000

How do you guys with 4wd liked the tune? difference in tourqe? My blazer feels like a turd with the 32s on it with 373 gears. you think I will feel the difference?

and also I talked to a shop about doing a crank relearn for the new pcm and they said that all you do is drive around and it will learn it itself. anyone ever heard of that? I thought you had to do it with a diognostic machine?

thanks
kyle

I love it, it'll turn my 30" all terrains over pretty good, and you'll feel the difference. As far as the crank re-learn, you have to have this done by a tuner. Just take it to a shop and see if they'll do it for ya, and keep looking until you find someone.

Quote: Originally Posted by Daveman2

WTF is this crank re-learn bullsh*t? Yeah your computer will trip balls for a bit but after I drove a few blocks it got better, it happens when i disconnect my battery for more than 20 minutes.

He DOES remove torque management, I can chip my tires like hell, 1-2 and 2-3 shifts

I think the big deal about the crank relearn is that the truck won't detect misfires until you've had this done. Sometimes it'll trip the SES light and sometimes it won't, but either way it won't detect misfires.

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10

any takers?

Have you talked to Jesse? I know he's hard to get ahold of sometimes, but I'd try to call or email him and let him know what's up. He'll probably send you another one at no charge, and if that didn't work he might even give you your money back, you never know.

[Yogi]

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10

ok fellas i decided to give the pcm another try. same results as last time. at idle it spits/sputters like it wants to die. i don't get it. 96s dont need to crank relearn right? that's just for 98 and up right?

AFAIK, all OBD II need the crank relearn - which would include '96s.

[Yogi]

Quote: Originally Posted by y.z.kid09

can you eliminate the o2 sensors when doing this tune

You can eliminate the rear O2 sensor error code, which would allow you to remove the rear O2 only. The front O2s are needed to run the FI and cannot be eliminated.

[muckRunner]

im guessing the back one is for emissions, would removing it from the pcm give you better fuel economy or worse?

[556mm]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yogi

AFAIK, all OBD II need the crank relearn - which would include '96s.

AFAIK?

[2ToeRacing]

I got mine installed a few weeks ago and love it. I felt a instant different. I asked for the speed limiter to be removed,told him that the truck fell on its face as it shifted into second and i need it to be seen to. I also told him all the little mods i vie done to the truck,man its great. I would recommend it to everyone. I haven't done the relearn because i don't see any reason to,i have the Solis computer at my shop,maybe i should and see if it improves anything. The website states that it will reprogram for free if your not happy all you have to do is pay 7.50 for S/H.

[556mm]

must be nice

[travy]

It is

[Yogi]

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10

AFAIK?

As far as I know.

[Yogi]

Quote: Originally Posted by uNsPoiLd

im guessing the back one is for emissions, would removing it from the pcm give you better fuel economy or worse?

The rear O2 has no effect on fuel economy. It merely looks at cat performance and sets a code if the cat goes bad.

[99xtrm]

well i finally got ahold of jesse on the phone and never had my e-mail responded to
I sent my pcm by ups he recieved it around 2:30 on friday according to ups's web site and mon at 11:00 i was holding my pcm in my hand back by priority mail
I really can't tell much differance power wise but shift wise it is pretty awsome it has nice crisp, clean shifts. I drove my truck over 100mph for the first time.
At part throtle the truck will shift and kind of fall on its face but i didnt have that problem till i put the supercharger on - i told jesse about it and it seems better but its not cured--I'm not gripping at jesse or anything like i said it seems to be supercharger related
All in all i'm happy with the tune, price and turn around time.

[Bruizer]

I just placed an order for my '04 BlaZeR2 today. I've already got an Injen CAI, Magnaflow Hi-Flo Cat and Muffler, and 75mm Bored TB. Hopefully this will be a nice a little addition. I requested the top end governor/limiter be removed, slight increase in line pressure for some firmer shifts, and a 75% reduction in Torque Management. Also told him I would still be mainly using 87 octane and that if he felt the shift points needed to be adjusted any then do so. I'm excited, hopefully all goes well.

[s10baller2000]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bruizer

I just placed an order for my '04 BlaZeR2 today. I've already got an Injen CAI, Magnaflow Hi-Flo Cat and Muffler, and 75mm Bored TB. Hopefully this will be a nice a little addition. I requested the top end governor/limiter be removed, slight increase in line pressure for some firmer shifts, and a 75% reduction in Torque Management. Also told him I would still be mainly using 87 octane and that if he felt the shift points needed to be adjusted any then do so. I'm excited, hopefully all goes well.

let us know how you like it. I have a 00 blaZeR2 and have about the same mods and I would like to know how it works out for you.
thanks
kyle

[muckRunner]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yogi

The rear O2 has no effect on fuel economy. It merely looks at cat performance and sets a code if the cat goes bad.

well then i guess it stays. i ordered mine two days ago. hannah said it should be here before memorial weekend. im hoping so cuz im taking a 5 hour trip home and wanna show it off.

[gchemist]

I installed the GM original Jimmy ECM sent to wait4meperformance on Thursday. WOW!! I noticed the idle change right way! The updated spider loves the changes. Engine revs past 5000 RPMs. Tranny shifts are awsome. The 4 door Jimmy jumps out of the first gear. Accelleration is great! Downshift and jumping on to the freeway are no problems at all. No hesistation when I stomp the throttle. I have to feather touch the throttle because it's sensitive. The corrected speedo is nice too. Best $85 spent on the Jimmy!! The tank was 1/4 gone so I can't report on milage improvements. I'll report back later.

[01black4.3]

The crank relearn doesn't apply if you have him re-tune the PCM that came factory in your truck correct?

[Bruizer]

Quote: Originally Posted by 01black4.3

The crank relearn doesn't apply if you have him re-tune the PCM that came factory in your truck correct?

You are correct.

[Merritt]

Quote: Originally Posted by gchemist

I installed the GM original Jimmy ECM sent to wait4meperformance on Thursday. WOW!! I noticed the idle change right way! The updated spider loves the changes. Engine revs past 5000 RPMs. Tranny shifts are awsome. The 4 door Jimmy jumps out of the first gear. Accelleration is great! Downshift and jumping on to the freeway are no problems at all. No hesistation when I stomp the throttle. I have to feather touch the throttle because it's sensitive. The corrected speedo is nice too. Best $85 spent on the Jimmy!! The tank was 1/4 gone so I can't report on milage improvements. I'll report back later.

I've been watching my mileage pretty closely after the tune, and I've gained about 2-3 mpg depending on how I'm driving and if it's city or highway.

[MikeInCtown]

Questions for you guys who've had this done.

I live in an area where emissions are checked. They used to do it with a tailpipe sensor, but with the OBDII systems, they just plug in a scanner. If I get the computer done, will this affect my emissions testing?

I have both a 2001 Jimmy 4wd and 96 S-10 2wd. May be putting an intake kit on one or both and a flowmaster on the 96 for sure. The 96 does have high mileage though. Neither vehicle will be raced and I am just looking for some extra mileage out of them.

You guys think it's worth the cost to get the computer mods done?

[blacksharpie]

Quote: Originally Posted by MikeInCtown

Questions for you guys who've had this done.

I live in an area where emissions are checked. They used to do it with a tailpipe sensor, but with the OBDII systems, they just plug in a scanner. If I get the computer done, will this affect my emissions testing?

I have both a 2001 Jimmy 4wd and 96 S-10 2wd. May be putting an intake kit on one or both and a flowmaster on the 96 for sure. The 96 does have high mileage though. Neither vehicle will be raced and I am just looking for some extra mileage out of them.

You guys think it's worth the cost to get the computer mods done?

The emissions wont change, if you pass now the tune wont affect anything.

For me before I got HPT this was hands down the best money spent EVER on the truck.

[Yogi]

For a scan only emissions test, you can even do better with the new tune. He can turn off any error reports that you don't want. So if you want to eliminate EGR, for example, he can turn off the error code for that and disable EGR. Any error code can be disabled.

[MikeInCtown]

That would be really cool. I'll have to ask how the test when I take the Jimmy in there within the next week or so.

I know they test the gas cap for sealing, they check to make sure the Cat is there, and they plug in their diagnostic thing into the OBDII port. Two months ago I took my S-10 in there to get checked. The whole month before I was getting readings 0446 and changed gas cap and the evap solenoids on front and rear. Code went off when I re-connected the battery, so I drove the 20 miles to the station and got it tested (passed) The next day my check engine light came back on.

Anyway, knowing that I can still get checked without failing unless something is wrong certainly helps. Thanks!

[Yogi]

No prob.

[96Dropped-dime]

i really need to get the reprogram done

[sparky2613]

........ all i need is money......

[Bruizer]

Mine should be in next week. I ordered it Friday and received an email today saying that it was scheduled to ship out today. I'm excited!!!

[Merritt]

good deal bruizer, let us know how it works out

[nukem1st]

It may be just mine, but seems like it really starts to pull hard around 3000 rpm, and continues through, and shifts like it has a B&M Transpack or shift kit installed,anybody else's this way?
I have noticed an improvement on gas mileage, as long as I can keep my foot out of it. I think it's great.Unless you intend on getting a Wynjammer, Wait4Me Performance is they way to go for the money.

[01cherryreds10]

Do you guys think I should get a W4M PCM tune BEFORE I put bolt on's on my truck? Or after?

I'd like to slowly get the following,
8.5 10 bolt with 3.73 gears with eaton posi
Headers
Flowmaster catback
Cheap intake
bigger throttle body
Remove EGR
Remove air pump (if that's possible without failing emissions)
Electric fans
Lightweight alt and crank pulleys
Comp cam
Replace internals

Pretty much giving the engine a complete rebuild, adding some goodies here and there.

[Yogi]

Most tuners offer free retunes after mods. I don't know if Jesse does this or not. If not, I would wait.

It may be hard to tune for some items like a larger throttle body by mail order. Check with Jesse. Let him know your plans are and see what he recommends.

A larger throttle body is not really necessary. GM uses the same 72mm TB from the 4.3 to the LS motors. There's plenty of flow in the stock TB.

[01cherryreds10]

Awesome you just saved me probably $100-200 on the TB

I'll shoot Jesse and email and let you guys know what he says.

[01cherryreds10]

Well, I just went to his site and found out that yes he does for now offer free retunes for life.

What do you all think about picking up a PCM from a junkyard and sending that to him to tune? Or should I just park my truck in the grass for a week or two and send him the stock PCM?

[blacksharpie]

I got a "junkyard" PCM from him for 75.00 bucks, IMO that was worth saving me a trip to the junkyard in AZ heat. 150 for a tune and a spare PCM was a good deal for me.

[sparky2613]

Quote: Originally Posted by 01cherryreds10

Awesome you just saved me probably $100-200 on the TB

I'll shoot Jesse and email and let you guys know what he says.

have you done the tb mod yet?

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f107/h...emoval-348823/

[01cherryreds10]

Nope but after I get off work I think I'll try it out

[muckRunner]

i just got mine yesterday (friday) it accually came thurs but i missed ups guy so i went friday after work to pick it up from the ups warehouse, installed it in the parking lot
i then drove with it 4 hours to fort wayne, in (about an hour from warsaw) and i did notice the shift points are a little different but it doesnt really shift any harder. rev limiter is about 200rpms higher as requested but TM still seems to be pretty heavy. i wonder if he changed it at all... i asked him to make it 20% and i dont really notice a difference.
i was lucky enough to find a shop that did a crank re-learn for free, he said it was a learning experience and he wouldnt even take a tip from me
i tried to call jesse about 5 mins ago but i figured he's taking the holiday weekend off. i think i read in the topic somewhere that he sent someone a list of what he actually changed... i didnt get one. i'll prolly shoot him an email to find out exactly what he changed, if not ill just swing over to his shop since im in town till tuesday.

tbo i was kinda expecting to be able to at least spin my tires off the line. granted ive got 255/70/r15's on the back (10" wide) but i guess i just got sucked into the hype a little more than i should have. dont get me wrong, im not dissapointed, i just was expecting a little more out of it.

btw i have an 02 blazer 2wd 2dr.

[Yogi]

Quote: Originally Posted by 01cherryreds10

Well, I just went to his site and found out that yes he does for now offer free retunes for life.

What do you all think about picking up a PCM from a junkyard and sending that to him to tune? Or should I just park my truck in the grass for a week or two and send him the stock PCM?

If you send him your pcm you will avoid the need for the "Crank Relearn" procedure on the new pcm. Crank relearn calibrates the crank position sensor and helps the pcm accurately measure missfires and engine knocking. Cost of crank relearn ranges from free to $100, so it's better to send him your old pcm.

And free retunes for life do not include free shipping, just so you know.

[Bruizer]

Received mine today and installed it. First off, the shifts are amazing, smooth and quick. My BlaZeR2 no longer falls on its face when it shifts, it just keeps on climbing. I went driving on the interstate doing around 70-75 and it appears the RPMs are slightly lower than where they once would have been, but only slightly. And when you get on it, it just takes off. As for overall HP and TQ, i'm not gonna try to estimate but I wouldn't say too much since it was tuned for 87 octane. Would have liked to have gotten it tuned for somethin' higher, but prices are just too steep. And I can't say anything about MPG yet because it just got put on today and I still need to do the Crank Relearn. Overall, very satisfied and has made my BlaZeR2 more fun to drive.

Only negative: Talk about a used PCM, made my stock one look brand new. Tried to clean with some Gunk but to no avail, gotta get somethin' more potent. But as long as it works, then it doesn't matter.

[King_Ice_Flash2]

use steel wool to take off the oxidation. After that, you can use flitz or something similar.

Lately, he seems less than eager to do anything quickly that doesn't put money in his pocket. I bought EFI-Live from him, and was supposed to get a "free starter tune" from him after I sent him my PCM image for the CTS-V. Still waiting for that after several emails and calls.

[Bruizer]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash2

use steel wool to take off the oxidation. After that, you can use flitz or something similar.

Thanks for the tip.

[FraserFishin']

Got my today!!! Truck drives awesome, sweet acceleration with better pull.

Only thing is the speedo is around 50-70 km/h over the speed I am actually doing. I am doing 100 km/h but my speedo says 170 km/h. It also threw a ABS code.

Any ideas on the speedo and ABS thing? How should I fix these?

[Yogi]

Do you know anybody that has HP Tuners or EFI Live? They could fix the speedo error easily. I don't know about the ABS error. It may have to go back to Jesse for that one.

Did you buy a PCM from him or did you send him your PCM? If you bought one, you may have better luck on both errors by sending him your old PCM, if he will work on that.

[King_Ice_Flash2]

I have EFI-Live, but it will cost you. The licensing per vehicle is not free.

Just send it back to Jesse. He should fix it.

[99,4.3vortec]

ok i called today and talked with jesse i take it?...he told me two things i was surprised about...one, that a 99 dosent have torque man.(only 2001 one and up)...he said it has nothing to do with the way it shifts...said that that was the line pressure.....two, that i do not have to have a crank relearn b/c i have a distributor....sound right to yall???