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Old 10-01-2007, 12:14 AM   #151
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by bikeboyben14
family man... i did the crank relearn and thats fine im having an issue saying my o2 sensors is bad and running extremly rich i get about 130 miles to a full tank of gas
My bad.... P0315....P0135...all looks the same to my bad eyes......

If you didn't get the code before the PCM change, I would definitely take it up with Jesse. It's highly unlikely that any hardware (like O2 sensors) would fail exactly at the same time you upgraded the PCM.

And if you think it's a whole new truck with it running that rich, wait until you get it tuned correctly!


Quote: Originally Posted by Slammed Chevy (inprogress10)
.....i had them remove the torque management and i have noticed that going from park to drive the tranny shifts hard. is this normal? it only does it in 1st and 2nd gear
Not sure what you mean by "going from park to drive" AND "it only does it in 1st and 2nd gear" ?? At a standstill, nothing related to torque management or its removal would cause a hard tranny shift. Mine doesn't exhibit anything like what I think you're describing. The PCM and the Corvette servo in mine combine for a pretty firm 1-2 shift, but that's only underway. Could be Jesse set the tranny line pressure a little high, or could be a high idle speed. Mine idles around 600 RPM, standing still, in drive. Again a phone call to Jesse might be in order.

Quote: Originally Posted by Slammed Chevy (inprogress10)
i also have another question. i had it tuned for 93 octane but i still had a little under half a tank of 87 and then i added some 93 to that and drove it. do yall think the 87 still being in could cause any problems?
The only thing that might happen is some early detonation (knocking and pinging), which the knock sensor would pick up and retard the timing considerably until it stops. No harm, but it won't be at full potential power and may get worse mileage. Next tank of all 93 and it will be happy again.

Good luck guys,

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Old 10-01-2007, 12:18 AM   #152
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

when i said going from park to drive i meant when the truck is on and idling in park and i shift into drive i feel a jerk. also it idles around 1100 RPMS in drive at idle too and feels like it's going to die.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by hivoltagedriver
I am having the same problem. He said that it shouldn't even be running that way, and that the VIN may have been input incorrectly. My truck seems to be running fine though, even after a month. Just that damn annoying light.
Well, I double checked my VIN and it matches what I had sent in. Same thing here, the truck runs fine but that security light is annoying, right in the middle! Still looking for a fix here.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10
when i said going from park to drive i meant when the truck is on and idling in park and i shift into drive i feel a jerk. also it idles around 1100 RPMS in drive at idle too and feels like it's going to die.
1100 RPM doesn't seem right. Write down all the numbers on the bottom of your factory PCM and the W4M PCM, and give Jesse a call. Could be you got the wrong version PCM for your truck.

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Old 10-01-2007, 05:31 PM   #155
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10
when i said going from park to drive i meant when the truck is on and idling in park and i shift into drive i feel a jerk. also it idles around 1100 RPMS in drive at idle too and feels like it's going to die.
I agree with FamilyMan that that's most likely the higher line pressure.

It's the same way B&M "electronic shift improver" works, if I forget and leave it on the 2nd position, it bangs into gear way hard, so badly that when the u-joints were starting to go they would make a loud snapping sound. Bad news. Again, like already said, I would talk to Jesse about perhaps dropping the line pressure a bit, constant "shocking" of the driveline like that is terrible for the longevity of the various components.
Old 10-16-2007, 05:29 PM   #156
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

well i just put my pcm in and i can't be happier with it !!! no more S.E.S. light !!! there is a deffanite improvment in low end power (s.o.t.p.). also i can hear the c.a.i. more now.

since i had the egr code removed i was just going to unplug it ?
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

i'm not sure if i'm gonna keep this thing in my truck or not. i tried calling w4me today but all i got was a busy tone. my truck is spitting and sputtering at idle still. i'm kinda disappointed.
Old 11-06-2007, 08:28 PM   #158
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

y not just get a pcm for less tune. better than any tune out there and he will get u in the 9's 9.6 for me and im extra cab auto.
Old 11-06-2007, 10:48 PM   #159
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

wow, post 160 in this thread of everybody (almost) raving about their wait4me performance tune, and you suggest that......WTF?
Old 11-06-2007, 10:52 PM   #160
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

that PCM is junk. it made my truck act fvcked up. what a waste of 159 bucks.
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send it back to them, they will make it right.
Old 11-06-2007, 11:02 PM   #162
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

i just want my money back but i doubt theyll do that since it's been more than 90 days.
Old 11-07-2007, 02:12 AM   #163
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by hivoltagedriver
send it back to them, they will make it right.
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I know its frustrating but let them try to make it right, I know i couldn't be happier with my tune and I'm pretty picky. A simple return, or exchange can turn this waste of money into a success. Just my 0.02
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10
i just want my money back but i doubt theyll do that since it's been more than 90 days.
Eric, did you have them program your pcm, or did you buy another core from them? If you still have the orig, throw back back in just to make sure that's it's not a coincidental but unrelated issue. If another pcm isn't available and your certain it is the new tune, call 'em up, send it back, i'm sure they'll try to make it right.

The reason I say it might be something else is b/c I read what your truck is doing in some other thread, and it sounds an awful lot like when my cat started getting plugged.
Old 11-07-2007, 06:34 PM   #165
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS
Eric, did you have them program your pcm, or did you buy another core from them? If you still have the orig, throw back back in just to make sure that's it's not a coincidental but unrelated issue. If another pcm isn't available and your certain it is the new tune, call 'em up, send it back, i'm sure they'll try to make it right.

The reason I say it might be something else is b/c I read what your truck is doing in some other thread, and it sounds an awful lot like when my cat started getting plugged.
hey ben i put my stock computer back in last week and now my truck is running perfect. it was their computer. lesson learned lol.
Old 11-08-2007, 12:23 AM   #166
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

still happy with mine....

inprogress10, if you are still having trouble with yours, call Jesse, and i'm sure he will fix it for you... but why have you waited so long to do anything about it???
Old 11-08-2007, 08:30 PM   #167
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

wow this is still jumpin...so it seems like a 98% approval rating for the W4M....i need to get on this soon...
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

i would have to agree with the other posts. call/e-mail jesse , he will fix what ever is wrong.like a said when i got mine the S.E.S. light came on and it was stuck in 2nd and would only go in 1st when i did it myself.sent it back and have no problems. when i first put it in i still had the stock t-stat and it was re-programed for a 160 so it was getting gas ping when it was fully warmed up , so i put my 160* in and all is well , no more pinging.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Update time!

Anyone else get this pcm tune?

People who have it, is your trucks still running?

And, Eric, did you get yours fixed?
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Bitch Bitch bitch Got mine done 4 months ago, runs perfect shifts are more firmer, had the corvette servo put in. Did not notice anybetter gas mileage but this truck runs so much better. Had solenoid go out of the tranny before the tune. I would highly recommend that you call Jesse directly, I talked to him on the phone, and e-mailed my request to Hannah. If you have a problem with their tune and you paid for it, why would you not install your original pcm and then send the tuned one back???? Instead of slamming the vendor, hell he will make it right. He only charges $75.00 for a retune after modifications, if you can beat that better do it, otherwise stick with the lawn mowers. they are easy to tune put in a new plug and go.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

He only charges $75.00 for a retune after modifications

they don't charge for re-tune after mods . it is free for the life of your truck.you just have to pay for the shipping.
Old 12-30-2007, 01:13 AM   #172
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by travy
Update time!

Anyone else get this pcm tune?

People who have it, is your trucks still running?

And, Eric, did you get yours fixed?
yeah i fixed it by not putting it back in. what a waste of money.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by inprogress10
yeah i fixed it by not putting it back in. what a waste of money.
are you retarded?
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by s-10hater
He only charges $75.00 for a retune after modifications

they don't charge for re-tune after mods . it is free for the life of your truck.you just have to pay for the shipping.
You are right just looked over his website, no charge for retune after up grades.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Quote: Originally Posted by phunk
are you retarded?

Some people will never get it because of their stubborness, and retard attitude. Hundreds of people have had tunes done by Jesse and his shop. It dosent matter you could hang him with a new rope and he would bitch about it. Give him a free piece of ass with the tune and he would say it wont fit to cause it is way to big for him.

Hey dummy just call Jesse with your problem dont be an idiot.

HE WILL MAKE IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 12-30-2007, 12:36 PM   #176
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

After reading all these post, I have to add mine. I've been driving around with my W4M tuned pcm going on the forth month now, my truck runs smoother, faster, seems to have more low end, partly cause it does, but mostly cause it shifts at much better place than factory shift points, more positive shifting, without beeing rough, and better MPG's on 87, 90 or 91 and 93 octane gas. When I put the tuned PCM in, the truck fired right up and I got NO codes or MIL light.
All this is exactly what I origanally said what I wanted out of the truck, Hanna & Jessie deliver great prouduct at a great price with great comminucation and customer service, and FAST! Can you ask for any more? This summer I'm going up there to meet them and see how it all works.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

I didnt have any luck with my w4m, but oh well I guess. all my shift points were screwed right up, at WOT I wasnt shifting. I even sent it back to let him know what was going on, but still no change, so I just took the ecm out and put my other one back in
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I still have mine, and I'm still happy with it.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

I still plan on getting a tune done too. For now Im still rockin the JET.
Im waiting to get these headers on it that have been sitting here for over 2 months now and also doing a 3.42 gearswap. Just busy and low on funds for it all. Plus I need a 3.42 set for a 8.5 diffy. GM gears and cheap is my target =)

I think if I paid for the tune and had the OEM PCM option while I sent the defective tuned PCM back , it would be a done deal already. I cant see why one would just complain about the wate of money and not do anything about it. It cost you only shipping, and with the right attitude and communication, maybe a freebie.
Its like buying a set of tires online and demanding they be pre-balanced. Getting them, putting them on your rims and complaining they are not balanced.
Point is, every truck isnt the same. Four 2000 4.3 autos can have the same tune done exactly by them or anyone else. Those get installed in their respected vehicles and youll have 4 different results. One of which may be a blem. But the differences in installation being followed per manufacturer suggestions, mileage and care, condition of sensors and vehicle, as well as a whole bunch of other variables will be the cause of different results.
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Re: my new "Wait4me performance" PCM...

Welp, sorry to hear some of you kids are still having problems.

I'm still going to go for it soon.
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