Interesting marine intake on eBay

rat · 06-21-2006, 06:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

I would assume the part about fabbing up the EGR wouldn't necessarily apply since you could use a custom tune to remove that issue anyway, right?

Right, unless you need it for emissions. But since the intake manifold will require a tune anyhow(different injectors) it is really easy to just turn off the codes.

PhatBoy · 06-21-2006, 07:22 PM

Does anyone know what size injectors come stock in that manifold, obviously we cant run anything too huge without boost?

Hey mint make sure you take pics and post what needs to be modified to make this work. I was going to do it, but looks like you beat me to the punch.

02_Black_XBlazer · 06-21-2006, 07:25 PM

If it's the same as the V8 manifold, than probably 24lb injectors.

PhatBoy · 06-21-2006, 07:31 PM

even that is a large jump from the shit we got now. pussy lil 19lbers...

MINTSICK · 06-21-2006, 07:38 PM

Ok got some pictures, I also weighed this thing and it is 52 pounds! I didn't weigh the stock setup before I put my engine back together, but remembering carrying it around it is easly 20lbs lighter than this intake....I really don't think 20lbs matters for my particular application but it may matter to some people. Just from looking at the pricing from mercruiser for a new intake I am not sure what this guy was thinking, to buy a brand new setup like this is way over $1000, for $230 shipped I can't see a cheaper way to gain just about full control over the fuel system on a 96+ 4.3. I am not ready to throw this on anytime soon since the rebuilt motor still only has about 200 miles on it, but this will probably be a fall/winter project so I can do my research and start fabbing anything that I will need ahead of time.

***raider600*** · 06-21-2006, 07:43 PM

bad ass. im jelous

Ralphie · 06-21-2006, 08:00 PM

Totally baddass man, good find!!

MINTSICK · 06-21-2006, 08:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ralphie

Totally baddass man, good find!!

bg takes all the credit for the find!

02_Black_XBlazer · 06-21-2006, 08:58 PM

Is that the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail setup? Is it adjustable?

MINTSICK · 06-21-2006, 09:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

Is that the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail setup? Is it adjustable?

Yes it is, from what I have read so far it is not adjustable.

PhatBoy · 06-22-2006, 09:17 AM

Its non adjustable. Oh and BTW DAMNIT...I WANT THAT ONE.

Crew Cab Sonoma · 06-22-2006, 09:55 AM

good info MINT. thanks.
it looks like there is quite a dip around the injectors in the runner roof. is there enough material there for some porting work?

Dan Plante · 06-22-2006, 10:08 AM

That thing is bad ass. That should definitely be a nice power adder once you get it all worked out Mike. Good find!!

MINTSICK · 06-22-2006, 11:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma

good info MINT. thanks.
it looks like there is quite a dip around the injectors in the runner roof. is there enough material there for some porting work?

Ya it definitely looks like some port work could be done from the pics, I will probably look into that when I am close to doing the swap.

Crew Cab Sonoma · 06-23-2006, 09:05 AM

i weighed my other stock (97) intake that i have, last night. complete, w/o ign. coil and bracket, it weighs about 22 lbs.
wow, a 30 LB. difference. thats a little more than i expected, but no big deal.

as for me, i plan to stay within the confines of the stock injection setup.
but porting modifications have already begun on the 97 manifold... with an angle grinder....

MINTSICK · 06-23-2006, 09:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma

i weighed my other stock (97) intake that i have, last night. complete, w/o ign. coil and bracket, it weighs about 22 lbs.
wow, a 30 LB. difference. thats a little more than i expected, but no big deal.

as for me, i plan to stay within the confines of the stock injection setup.
but porting modifications have already begun on the 97 manifold... with an angle grinder....

Wow I believe it though, I couldn't believe it when the UPS guy handed me the box!

PhatBoy · 06-23-2006, 06:19 PM

I will take the wieght gain for the improved control of the fuel system, only problem is finding that setup around here...all the salvage yards have the carbd 4.3s...seems as though the fuel injected ones never break down...

1fast4by · 06-23-2006, 10:34 PM

That looks like a deal, someone buy it and make a thread about the install...Including lots of pics.

*subscribes

PhatBoy · 06-23-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1fast4by

That looks like a deal, someone buy it and make a thread about the install...Including lots of pics.

*subscribes

Mintstick already bought it and is doing the install, but not right now.

samueljackson · 06-26-2006, 02:29 AM

wouldnt the power bands be designed for very different purposes? the marine intake is designed the have a higher rpms for long periods of time. marine engines tend to run poor for an automotive use. especially for a daily driver.

might be good for a strip eng. but if u have a car/truck u dedicate to just racing, r u gonna go with a 262?

MINTSICK · 06-26-2006, 08:57 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by samueljackson

wouldnt the power bands be designed for very different purposes? the marine intake is designed the have a higher rpms for long periods of time. marine engines tend to run poor for an automotive use. especially for a daily driver.

might be good for a strip eng. but if u have a car/truck u dedicate to just racing, r u gonna go with a 262?

No not really there shouldn't be any affect on driveability between this and the stock intake. I am just using the intake not a complete marine engine.

1fast4by · 06-26-2006, 05:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by samueljackson

wouldnt the power bands be designed for very different purposes? the marine intake is designed the have a higher rpms for long periods of time. marine engines tend to run poor for an automotive use. especially for a daily driver.

might be good for a strip eng. but if u have a car/truck u dedicate to just racing, r u gonna go with a 262?

Most of the differances are in the valve train and the camshaft

And as long as you dont want to tow a whole hell of a lot it really wouldnt matter too much. My power peak is between 4300-5100 with max hp at about 5k

and Mike, you are definately going to have to keep us informed and take lots of pics

MINTSICK · 06-26-2006, 07:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1fast4by

Most of the differances are in the valve train and the camshaft

And as long as you dont want to tow a whole hell of a lot it really wouldnt matter too much. My power peak is between 4300-5100 with max hp at about 5k

and Mike, you are definately going to have to keep us informed and take lots of pics

Oh I plan on it, I probably won't get to this until the fall/winter since the s10 is currently my only form of transportation, not to say I couldn't get it done in a weekend as long as I do my homework with it.

PhatBoy · 06-27-2006, 07:58 PM

I think you are the only one thats done/doing a marine intake other than the guys a mach. Dunno how much homework you have to do.

bluedragonx · 06-28-2006, 05:24 AM

Well, doesn't seem like there'd be too too much homework in figuring out how to get it to just work. It's getting the best performance out of it that requires a little more digging....

MINTSICK · 06-28-2006, 10:21 AM

The most work is adapting the evap system really, the fuel lines are easy as is splicing the injectors into the factory harness.

rat · 06-28-2006, 05:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINTSICK

The most work is adapting the evap system really, the fuel lines are easy as is splicing the injectors into the factory harness.

Just throw a vac line on it, and plumb it in. May have to drill/tap the upper intake if you need more vac ports, but off the vehicle and in aluminum it really won't be that hard.

PhatBoy · 06-28-2006, 07:09 PM

And there you have it. I wonder how much itll help a N/A motor with the larger injectors and a really good tune.

06-21-2006, 06:30 PM	#51
rat Got Fuel Rails? Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,539 Location: Omaha, NE User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS I would assume the part about fabbing up the EGR wouldn't necessarily apply since you could use a custom tune to remove that issue anyway, right? Right, unless you need it for emissions. But since the intake manifold will require a tune anyhow(different injectors) it is really easy to just turn off the codes.
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06-21-2006, 07:22 PM	#52
PhatBoy I cant win for loosing. Age: 26 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,214 Location: Bogalusa, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Does anyone know what size injectors come stock in that manifold, obviously we cant run anything too huge without boost? Hey mint make sure you take pics and post what needs to be modified to make this work. I was going to do it, but looks like you beat me to the punch.
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06-21-2006, 07:25 PM	#53
02_Black_XBlazer Starting from scratch... Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,331 Location: Over By There, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay If it's the same as the V8 manifold, than probably 24lb injectors.
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06-21-2006, 07:31 PM	#54
PhatBoy I cant win for loosing. Age: 26 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,214 Location: Bogalusa, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay even that is a large jump from the shit we got now. pussy lil 19lbers...
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06-21-2006, 07:38 PM	#55
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Ok got some pictures, I also weighed this thing and it is 52 pounds! I didn't weigh the stock setup before I put my engine back together, but remembering carrying it around it is easly 20lbs lighter than this intake....I really don't think 20lbs matters for my particular application but it may matter to some people. Just from looking at the pricing from mercruiser for a new intake I am not sure what this guy was thinking, to buy a brand new setup like this is way over $1000, for $230 shipped I can't see a cheaper way to gain just about full control over the fuel system on a 96+ 4.3. I am not ready to throw this on anytime soon since the rebuilt motor still only has about 200 miles on it, but this will probably be a fall/winter project so I can do my research and start fabbing anything that I will need ahead of time.
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06-21-2006, 07:43 PM	#56
*raider600* Hey kids! Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,163 Location: Indianapolis! User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay bad ass. im jelous
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06-21-2006, 08:00 PM	#57
Ralphie LS2OMFG Age: 25 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11,489 Location: Pittsburg KS User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Totally baddass man, good find!!
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06-21-2006, 08:07 PM	#58
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by Ralphie Totally baddass man, good find!! bg takes all the credit for the find!
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06-21-2006, 08:58 PM	#59
02_Black_XBlazer Starting from scratch... Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,331 Location: Over By There, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Is that the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail setup? Is it adjustable?
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06-21-2006, 09:39 PM	#60
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS Is that the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail setup? Is it adjustable? Yes it is, from what I have read so far it is not adjustable.
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06-22-2006, 09:17 AM	#61
PhatBoy I cant win for loosing. Age: 26 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,214 Location: Bogalusa, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Its non adjustable. Oh and BTW DAMNIT...I WANT THAT ONE.
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06-22-2006, 09:55 AM	#62
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,841 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay good info MINT. thanks. it looks like there is quite a dip around the injectors in the runner roof. is there enough material there for some porting work?
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06-22-2006, 10:08 AM	#63
Dan Plante Registered User Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,850 Location: Franklin, MA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay That thing is bad ass. That should definitely be a nice power adder once you get it all worked out Mike. Good find!!
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06-22-2006, 11:39 AM	#64
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma good info MINT. thanks. it looks like there is quite a dip around the injectors in the runner roof. is there enough material there for some porting work? Ya it definitely looks like some port work could be done from the pics, I will probably look into that when I am close to doing the swap.
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06-23-2006, 09:05 AM	#65
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,841 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay i weighed my other stock (97) intake that i have, last night. complete, w/o ign. coil and bracket, it weighs about 22 lbs. wow, a 30 LB. difference. thats a little more than i expected, but no big deal. as for me, i plan to stay within the confines of the stock injection setup. but porting modifications have already begun on the 97 manifold... with an angle grinder....
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06-23-2006, 09:29 AM	#66
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma i weighed my other stock (97) intake that i have, last night. complete, w/o ign. coil and bracket, it weighs about 22 lbs. wow, a 30 LB. difference. thats a little more than i expected, but no big deal. as for me, i plan to stay within the confines of the stock injection setup. but porting modifications have already begun on the 97 manifold... with an angle grinder.... Wow I believe it though, I couldn't believe it when the UPS guy handed me the box!
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06-23-2006, 06:19 PM	#67
PhatBoy I cant win for loosing. Age: 26 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,214 Location: Bogalusa, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay I will take the wieght gain for the improved control of the fuel system, only problem is finding that setup around here...all the salvage yards have the carbd 4.3s...seems as though the fuel injected ones never break down...
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06-23-2006, 10:34 PM	#68
1fast4by I'll need human lives... Age: 26 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,095 Location: Green Hills/Nashville User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay That looks like a deal, someone buy it and make a thread about the install...Including lots of pics. *subscribes
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06-23-2006, 11:01 PM	#69
PhatBoy I cant win for loosing. Age: 26 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,214 Location: Bogalusa, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by 1fast4by That looks like a deal, someone buy it and make a thread about the install...Including lots of pics. *subscribes Mintstick already bought it and is doing the install, but not right now.
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06-26-2006, 02:29 AM	#70
samueljackson Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,464 Location: burb of detroit User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay wouldnt the power bands be designed for very different purposes? the marine intake is designed the have a higher rpms for long periods of time. marine engines tend to run poor for an automotive use. especially for a daily driver. might be good for a strip eng. but if u have a car/truck u dedicate to just racing, r u gonna go with a 262?
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06-26-2006, 08:57 AM	#71
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by samueljackson wouldnt the power bands be designed for very different purposes? the marine intake is designed the have a higher rpms for long periods of time. marine engines tend to run poor for an automotive use. especially for a daily driver. might be good for a strip eng. but if u have a car/truck u dedicate to just racing, r u gonna go with a 262? No not really there shouldn't be any affect on driveability between this and the stock intake. I am just using the intake not a complete marine engine.
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06-26-2006, 05:11 PM	#72
1fast4by I'll need human lives... Age: 26 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,095 Location: Green Hills/Nashville User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by samueljackson wouldnt the power bands be designed for very different purposes? the marine intake is designed the have a higher rpms for long periods of time. marine engines tend to run poor for an automotive use. especially for a daily driver. might be good for a strip eng. but if u have a car/truck u dedicate to just racing, r u gonna go with a 262? Most of the differances are in the valve train and the camshaft And as long as you dont want to tow a whole hell of a lot it really wouldnt matter too much. My power peak is between 4300-5100 with max hp at about 5k and Mike, you are definately going to have to keep us informed and take lots of pics
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06-26-2006, 07:59 PM	#73
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by 1fast4by Most of the differances are in the valve train and the camshaft And as long as you dont want to tow a whole hell of a lot it really wouldnt matter too much. My power peak is between 4300-5100 with max hp at about 5k and Mike, you are definately going to have to keep us informed and take lots of pics Oh I plan on it, I probably won't get to this until the fall/winter since the s10 is currently my only form of transportation, not to say I couldn't get it done in a weekend as long as I do my homework with it.
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06-27-2006, 07:58 PM	#74
PhatBoy I cant win for loosing. Age: 26 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,214 Location: Bogalusa, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay I think you are the only one thats done/doing a marine intake other than the guys a mach. Dunno how much homework you have to do.
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06-28-2006, 05:24 AM	#75
bluedragonx gtfo now Age: 25 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,610 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Well, doesn't seem like there'd be too too much homework in figuring out how to get it to just work. It's getting the best performance out of it that requires a little more digging....
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06-28-2006, 10:21 AM	#76
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay The most work is adapting the evap system really, the fuel lines are easy as is splicing the injectors into the factory harness.
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06-28-2006, 05:56 PM	#77
rat Got Fuel Rails? Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,539 Location: Omaha, NE User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by MINTSICK The most work is adapting the evap system really, the fuel lines are easy as is splicing the injectors into the factory harness. Just throw a vac line on it, and plumb it in. May have to drill/tap the upper intake if you need more vac ports, but off the vehicle and in aluminum it really won't be that hard.
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06-28-2006, 07:09 PM	#78
PhatBoy I cant win for loosing. Age: 26 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,214 Location: Bogalusa, LA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay And there you have it. I wonder how much itll help a N/A motor with the larger injectors and a really good tune.
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