Interesting marine intake on eBay

bg's · 06-08-2006, 04:39 AM

Be nice if this bolted up to late model engines. Maybe it does..
Might be looking into for someone that knows their stuff regarding
multi injection.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3ASS%3AUS%3A1

Crew Cab Sonoma · 06-08-2006, 08:58 AM

it will fit to 96-up heads. and with some rewiring of the injector harness, and omitting the EGR system, i believe it will interface fine with 96-up eletronics as well.

the base is iron, and the plenum is aluminum, so you would gain a few pounds with this setup, but other than that, i think it could be made to work fine.

MINTSICK · 06-08-2006, 09:44 AM

I am very tempted to give one of these intakes a shot, besides adapting the fuel lines it looks like a pretty straightforward swap.

Crew Cab Sonoma · 06-08-2006, 09:48 AM

i`ve been tempted to try it as well.

MINTSICK · 06-08-2006, 09:58 AM

What the hell $220 isn't bad at all, I threw a bid down

ecir38 · 06-08-2006, 10:00 AM

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Dan Plante · 06-08-2006, 11:01 AM

Hell yeah looks pretty straight forward for sure. Same thing as the 2114 but probably much easier to work with because it is already designed specifically for our motor with no modification except electrical!!!

BlackEsDime · 06-08-2006, 11:08 AM

damn... if i knew more about engine shit i'd go for it!

BlackStallion · 06-08-2006, 11:25 AM

would it really add 35hp like the guy says or is he just blowing smoke?

Dan Plante · 06-08-2006, 11:38 AM

Yes it will increase hp that much. That stock Mercruiser motor puts out 235hp from the factory.

Crew Cab Sonoma · 06-08-2006, 12:19 PM

but thats not just because of the intake. the camshaft, exhaust system, and calibration differences are probably responsible for most of the marine engine`s power gain over it`s automotive counterpart.

i would say the gains, if any, with the marine intake alone would be less than 10 hp.. but thats just speculation.

stlSY · 06-08-2006, 01:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma

i would say the gains, if any, with the marine intake alone would be less than 10 hp.. but thats just speculation.

That seems about right, somewhere in that 6-10hp range is what seems realistic, I think the biggest gain would be in cool factor.

SuperSS27 · 06-08-2006, 01:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by stlSY

That seems about right, somewhere in that 6-10hp range is what seems realistic, I think the biggest gain would be in cool factor.

Id say the biggest gain would be ultimate control of the fuel system, being able to put 60# injectors if need be. Meaning more boost from a blower/turbo and a bigger shot of nitrous.

Crew Cab Sonoma · 06-08-2006, 01:23 PM

yeah, thats definetly it`s biggest advantage. the ability to use conventional injectors in the size of your choice, without all the fabrication and expense of an aftermarket/custom setup.

MINTSICK · 06-08-2006, 01:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma

yeah, thats definetly it`s biggest advantage. the ability to use conventional injectors in the size of your choice, without all the fabrication and expense of an aftermarket/custom setup.

Absolutely

bg's · 06-08-2006, 04:14 PM

So what would be the firing of the injectors ? Batch, group or
Seq ? One thing I notice is the fact it has a manifold vacumm
controlled fuel pressure reg. That in itself would be a nice
improvement from the CPI type reg, wouldn't it ?

I read a post over at full size Chevy where a member there
came up with a mod transforming his TBI ecm to fire a TPI
system. I guess he's using an external driver box. Kind of
interesting info, though it really only applies to 93 to 95
v-8's, it seems like some of his projects ideas could benefit
the 4.3. Since this marine manifold would fit heads up
to 95, it might be something to consider.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=213215

Please correct me here. Is batch and group fire the same
type of injector firing ? And would the marine cam be worth
installing with this manifold, or would an aftermarket cam
such as one from Crane or Comp be the way to go ?

Thanks for any info or thoughts on this.

Ralphie · 06-08-2006, 04:18 PM

Tons of potential there!

02_Black_XBlazer · 06-08-2006, 04:33 PM

Click click...(the sound of me subscribing to this thread...)

Ralphie · 06-08-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINTSICK

What the hell $220 isn't bad at all, I threw a bid down

Hey now you don't have any right to take that thing off the road any longer!!

j894 · 06-08-2006, 05:21 PM

Notice the TB doesnt have the deflector.
Im still wonder why GM just didnt give us a version of this intake, pisses ya off.

nater006 · 06-08-2006, 05:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by j894

Notice the TB doesnt have the deflector.
Im still wonder why GM just didnt give us a version of this intake, pisses ya off.

They're trying to sell refined smooth vehicles, not ones that snap your neck off the throttle. In a boat, thats not exactly a problem. In a vehicle, it is.

j894 · 06-08-2006, 05:49 PM

I know im just bringing that out on the table, because of the arguement that the deflector is there to distribute EGR gases or whatever BS reason it was.

MINTSICK · 06-08-2006, 06:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ralphie

Hey now you don't have any right to take that thing off the road any longer!!

It's on the road don't make me go take a picture of it with the valid plates on it! I just figured down the road it would be nice to have.

MINTSICK · 06-08-2006, 06:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bg's

So what would be the firing of the injectors ? Batch, group or
Seq ? One thing I notice is the fact it has a manifold vacumm
controlled fuel pressure reg. That in itself would be a nice
improvement from the CPI type reg, wouldn't it ?

I read a post over at full size Chevy where a member there
came up with a mod transforming his TBI ecm to fire a TPI
system. I guess he's using an external driver box. Kind of
interesting info, though it really only applies to 93 to 95
v-8's, it seems like some of his projects ideas could benefit
the 4.3. Since this marine manifold would fit heads up
to 95, it might be something to consider.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=213215

Please correct me here. Is batch and group fire the same
type of injector firing ? And would the marine cam be worth
installing with this manifold, or would an aftermarket cam
such as one from Crane or Comp be the way to go ?

Thanks for any info or thoughts on this.

I've seen a thread on another forum where silverado vortec 350 guys have been using this same intake with great results, I forget where I saw it exactly.

rat · 06-08-2006, 06:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bg's

So what would be the firing of the injectors ? Batch, group or
Seq ? One thing I notice is the fact it has a manifold vacumm
controlled fuel pressure reg. That in itself would be a nice
improvement from the CPI type reg, wouldn't it ?

I read a post over at full size Chevy where a member there
came up with a mod transforming his TBI ecm to fire a TPI
system. I guess he's using an external driver box. Kind of
interesting info, though it really only applies to 93 to 95
v-8's, it seems like some of his projects ideas could benefit
the 4.3. Since this marine manifold would fit heads up
to 95, it might be something to consider.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=213215

Please correct me here. Is batch and group fire the same
type of injector firing ? And would the marine cam be worth
installing with this manifold, or would an aftermarket cam
such as one from Crane or Comp be the way to go ?

Thanks for any info or thoughts on this.

As far as the vacuum both cpi's, and csefi's('96 and ups) have vacuum controlled regulators. This one is just external. And it isn't prone to leaks like the '92-'95 ones were.

Depends on the year. On the '96 and up's it would be full sequential control. On the '95 and downs i don't see it being able to be used on the stock computers, but maybe with modification. A set of '96 up vortec heads would be required, but they flow better anyhow.

The difference between batch and sequential is negligable though in my opinoin. Anyone with a '96 and up can experience both. Stock they are sequential. Unplug the camshaft position sensor under the distributor and you are in batch fire. Not a real big difference that i could tell, besides the ses light. The '92-'95's were batch fire only. The only difference may be felt at lower throttle inputs, at wot the injection is longer than the valve timing event anyhow i think.

I'd just take a pick of the comp or crane offerings for whatever the goals of the engine are.

I agree with the general consensus in this thread though, it probably won't add much power on an n/a truck, but use it on a boosted truck, or something that has a "half a$$ed" fuel system that can't keep consisten air fuel ratios, then there is deffinately a lot of potential.

I kind of wish i had this manifold to start from, may have saved me a lot of work converting a stock manifold over to normal fuel injection with rails.

tfpets · 06-08-2006, 10:56 PM

I saw them install that v-8 setup on horspower tv or trucks one time...the only modification from tbi to multi as far as wiring was some sort of adapter harness that spliced into the tbi injector wires....and they gutted the stock throttle body to use for the air intake throttle body...as I recall there was about a 35 hp gain and almost 50 torque gain....alot of that coming from the MUCH taller and straighter intake...all I can figure with the injector fire is they are firing 4 at a time and hoping the o2 works good enough to keep up.

s10blaze43 · 06-09-2006, 12:14 AM

how would the throttle linkage work if it hooks up on the opposite side? unless u could bolt on a stock throttle body?

04Xtreme · 06-09-2006, 08:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10blaze43

how would the throttle linkage work if it hooks up on the opposite side? unless u could bolt on a stock throttle body?

bolt your stock TB to it

01black4.3 · 06-09-2006, 12:54 PM

Well, I would buy it but I want to let Mint figure it out first.

bg's · 06-09-2006, 02:17 PM

There are options for the throttle cable.

BlkS10Kid2002 · 06-09-2006, 02:41 PM

well mike u could mock it all up on the blazer and then once u know its good to go spend a day swapin shit ova to the dime

MINTSICK · 06-09-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BlkS10Kid2002

well mike u could mock it all up on the blazer and then once u know its good to go spend a day swapin shit ova to the dime

I ain't mocking SHIT up on the blazer, I will never turn a bolt on that truck under the hood again!

If I get this I won't be exploring it for a little while, I want to get the truck running well with the current intake on there and make sure the engine is where it needs to be. As far as the modifications needed, other than splicing wires for the injectors (will need some injector connectors) it's just a matter of adapting the stock fuel lines to the manifold. EGR isn't a real concern for me since I can edit it out with tunercat and the inspection stations don't even do a visual inspection, doubt they would know what the hell they are looking at anyways. I don't forsee forced induction in my future but I would like to mess around with nitrous at some point, I think this manifold would work very well with a proper nitrous tune.

s10blaze43 · 06-09-2006, 05:59 PM

This looks like a sweet option instead of buying a 2114

BeyondeXtReMe · 06-09-2006, 07:26 PM

all the stock mercruiser 4.3's I've seen have 205 hp (same as the 4.3's in halftons)

02_Black_XBlazer · 06-09-2006, 09:19 PM

If you look at the sellers feedback, he just bought the thing not that long ago..I wonder why he's selling it so soon? Maybe Mint will get lucky and pay less than he did for it!

MINTSICK · 06-09-2006, 09:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

If you look at the sellers feedback, he just bought the thing not that long ago..I wonder why he's selling it so soon? Maybe Mint will get lucky and pay less than he did for it!

I just took a look at that, he only paid $256 for it. Looks like he bought some other boat parts and then realized he didn't have a boat nor a 4.3L?!?

02_Black_XBlazer · 06-09-2006, 09:41 PM

Maybe he realized his boat had a 2.2?

juddspaintballs · 06-09-2006, 09:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

Maybe he realized his boat had a 2.2?

lol

02_Black_XBlazer · 06-16-2006, 09:01 PM

Any update? Did you win the auction, Mint?

01black4.3 · 06-16-2006, 09:09 PM

Yes, he did.

02_Black_XBlazer · 06-16-2006, 09:11 PM

I just looked at the finished auction...He payed $36 bucks less for it than the seller did!

bg's · 06-17-2006, 02:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 97NAS10SS

I just looked at the finished auction...He payed $36 bucks less for it than the seller did!

If it works that's MY finders fee...

PhatBoy · 06-20-2006, 11:45 PM

Son Of A Bitch......i Want That One.

MINTSICK · 06-21-2006, 10:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bg's

If it works that's MY finders fee...

Haha of course it will work! The intake is being delivered today, I will get some better pictures of it up for you guys.

bg's · 06-21-2006, 01:02 PM

I hope it pans out for ya, Mint.

Crew Cab Sonoma · 06-21-2006, 01:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINTSICK

Haha of course it will work! The intake is being delivered today, I will get some better pictures of it up for you guys.

sounds good. say, how about throwin it on a scale, and letting us know what it weighs?

MINTSICK · 06-21-2006, 02:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma

sounds good. say, how about throwin it on a scale, and letting us know what it weighs?

Will do, I found an article on all the modifications needed for the V8 marine intake on an L31 if anyone is interested in the differences, a few of the things probably won't apply to the V6 intake but we will see.

http://www.pacificp.com/forum/viewto...?t=317&start=0

j894 · 06-21-2006, 04:00 PM

we should have a cast aluminum version of that. Not a POS

Dan Plante · 06-21-2006, 05:00 PM

Nice Mike that is cool. Can't wait to see this thing and hopefully in the future it is a really easy bolt on once you get it all figured out and get the wiring all done.

02_Black_XBlazer · 06-21-2006, 05:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINTSICK

Will do, I found an article on all the modifications needed for the V8 marine intake on an L31 if anyone is interested in the differences, a few of the things probably won't apply to the V6 intake but we will see.

http://www.pacificp.com/forum/viewto...?t=317&start=0

I would assume the part about fabbing up the EGR wouldn't necessarily apply since you could use a custom tune to remove that issue anyway, right?

06-08-2006, 04:39 AM	#1
bg's crap Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,096 Location: Who cares.. User is: OffLine	Interesting marine intake on eBay Be nice if this bolted up to late model engines. Maybe it does.. Might be looking into for someone that knows their stuff regarding multi injection. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3ASS%3AUS%3A1
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06-08-2006, 08:58 AM	#2
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,841 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay it will fit to 96-up heads. and with some rewiring of the injector harness, and omitting the EGR system, i believe it will interface fine with 96-up eletronics as well. the base is iron, and the plenum is aluminum, so you would gain a few pounds with this setup, but other than that, i think it could be made to work fine.
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06-08-2006, 09:44 AM	#3
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay I am very tempted to give one of these intakes a shot, besides adapting the fuel lines it looks like a pretty straightforward swap.
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06-08-2006, 09:48 AM	#4
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,841 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay i`ve been tempted to try it as well.
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06-08-2006, 09:58 AM	#5
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay What the hell $220 isn't bad at all, I threw a bid down
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06-08-2006, 11:01 AM	#7
Dan Plante Registered User Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,850 Location: Franklin, MA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Hell yeah looks pretty straight forward for sure. Same thing as the 2114 but probably much easier to work with because it is already designed specifically for our motor with no modification except electrical!!!
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06-08-2006, 11:08 AM	#8
BlackEsDime Honest Abe's Fab Shoppe Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 11,442 Location: Orlando, FL User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay damn... if i knew more about engine shit i'd go for it!
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06-08-2006, 11:25 AM	#9
BlackStallion Resident Hardhead Age: 21 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 747 Location: Eastern shore of Maryland User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay would it really add 35hp like the guy says or is he just blowing smoke?
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06-08-2006, 11:38 AM	#10
Dan Plante Registered User Age: 33 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,850 Location: Franklin, MA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Yes it will increase hp that much. That stock Mercruiser motor puts out 235hp from the factory.
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06-08-2006, 12:19 PM	#11
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,841 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay but thats not just because of the intake. the camshaft, exhaust system, and calibration differences are probably responsible for most of the marine engine`s power gain over it`s automotive counterpart. i would say the gains, if any, with the marine intake alone would be less than 10 hp.. but thats just speculation. Last edited by Crew Cab Sonoma : 06-08-2006 at 12:20 PM.
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06-08-2006, 01:07 PM	#12
stlSY Simple Ton Age: 36 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 124 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma i would say the gains, if any, with the marine intake alone would be less than 10 hp.. but thats just speculation. That seems about right, somewhere in that 6-10hp range is what seems realistic, I think the biggest gain would be in cool factor.
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06-08-2006, 01:10 PM	#13
SuperSS27 TrailBlazin' Age: 25 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,389 Location: Lindenhurst-Lake Villa, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by stlSY That seems about right, somewhere in that 6-10hp range is what seems realistic, I think the biggest gain would be in cool factor. Id say the biggest gain would be ultimate control of the fuel system, being able to put 60# injectors if need be. Meaning more boost from a blower/turbo and a bigger shot of nitrous.
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06-08-2006, 01:23 PM	#14
Crew Cab Sonoma not low, not gonna be... Age: 43 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,841 Location: Chattanooga, TN User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay yeah, thats definetly it`s biggest advantage. the ability to use conventional injectors in the size of your choice, without all the fabrication and expense of an aftermarket/custom setup.
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06-08-2006, 01:46 PM	#15
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by Crew Cab Sonoma yeah, thats definetly it`s biggest advantage. the ability to use conventional injectors in the size of your choice, without all the fabrication and expense of an aftermarket/custom setup. Absolutely
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06-08-2006, 04:14 PM	#16
bg's crap Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,096 Location: Who cares.. User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay So what would be the firing of the injectors ? Batch, group or Seq ? One thing I notice is the fact it has a manifold vacumm controlled fuel pressure reg. That in itself would be a nice improvement from the CPI type reg, wouldn't it ? I read a post over at full size Chevy where a member there came up with a mod transforming his TBI ecm to fire a TPI system. I guess he's using an external driver box. Kind of interesting info, though it really only applies to 93 to 95 v-8's, it seems like some of his projects ideas could benefit the 4.3. Since this marine manifold would fit heads up to 95, it might be something to consider. http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=213215 Please correct me here. Is batch and group fire the same type of injector firing ? And would the marine cam be worth installing with this manifold, or would an aftermarket cam such as one from Crane or Comp be the way to go ? Thanks for any info or thoughts on this. Last edited by bg's : 06-08-2006 at 04:26 PM.
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06-08-2006, 04:18 PM	#17
Ralphie LS2OMFG Age: 25 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11,488 Location: Pittsburg KS User is: Online	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Tons of potential there!
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06-08-2006, 04:37 PM	#19
Ralphie LS2OMFG Age: 25 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11,488 Location: Pittsburg KS User is: Online	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by MINTSICK What the hell $220 isn't bad at all, I threw a bid down Hey now you don't have any right to take that thing off the road any longer!!
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06-08-2006, 05:21 PM	#20
j894 Unregistered User Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,532 Location: (on vacation) User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Notice the TB doesnt have the deflector. Im still wonder why GM just didnt give us a version of this intake, pisses ya off.
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06-08-2006, 05:45 PM	#21
nater006 loco hombre Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,455 Location: Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by j894 Notice the TB doesnt have the deflector. Im still wonder why GM just didnt give us a version of this intake, pisses ya off. They're trying to sell refined smooth vehicles, not ones that snap your neck off the throttle. In a boat, thats not exactly a problem. In a vehicle, it is.
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06-08-2006, 05:49 PM	#22
j894 Unregistered User Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,532 Location: (on vacation) User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay I know im just bringing that out on the table, because of the arguement that the deflector is there to distribute EGR gases or whatever BS reason it was.
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06-08-2006, 06:02 PM	#23
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by Ralphie Hey now you don't have any right to take that thing off the road any longer!! It's on the road don't make me go take a picture of it with the valid plates on it! I just figured down the road it would be nice to have.
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06-08-2006, 06:04 PM	#24
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by bg's So what would be the firing of the injectors ? Batch, group or Seq ? One thing I notice is the fact it has a manifold vacumm controlled fuel pressure reg. That in itself would be a nice improvement from the CPI type reg, wouldn't it ? I read a post over at full size Chevy where a member there came up with a mod transforming his TBI ecm to fire a TPI system. I guess he's using an external driver box. Kind of interesting info, though it really only applies to 93 to 95 v-8's, it seems like some of his projects ideas could benefit the 4.3. Since this marine manifold would fit heads up to 95, it might be something to consider. http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=213215 Please correct me here. Is batch and group fire the same type of injector firing ? And would the marine cam be worth installing with this manifold, or would an aftermarket cam such as one from Crane or Comp be the way to go ? Thanks for any info or thoughts on this. I've seen a thread on another forum where silverado vortec 350 guys have been using this same intake with great results, I forget where I saw it exactly.
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06-08-2006, 06:25 PM	#25
rat Got Fuel Rails? Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,539 Location: Omaha, NE User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by bg's So what would be the firing of the injectors ? Batch, group or Seq ? One thing I notice is the fact it has a manifold vacumm controlled fuel pressure reg. That in itself would be a nice improvement from the CPI type reg, wouldn't it ? I read a post over at full size Chevy where a member there came up with a mod transforming his TBI ecm to fire a TPI system. I guess he's using an external driver box. Kind of interesting info, though it really only applies to 93 to 95 v-8's, it seems like some of his projects ideas could benefit the 4.3. Since this marine manifold would fit heads up to 95, it might be something to consider. http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...d.php?t=213215 Please correct me here. Is batch and group fire the same type of injector firing ? And would the marine cam be worth installing with this manifold, or would an aftermarket cam such as one from Crane or Comp be the way to go ? Thanks for any info or thoughts on this. As far as the vacuum both cpi's, and csefi's('96 and ups) have vacuum controlled regulators. This one is just external. And it isn't prone to leaks like the '92-'95 ones were. Depends on the year. On the '96 and up's it would be full sequential control. On the '95 and downs i don't see it being able to be used on the stock computers, but maybe with modification. A set of '96 up vortec heads would be required, but they flow better anyhow. The difference between batch and sequential is negligable though in my opinoin. Anyone with a '96 and up can experience both. Stock they are sequential. Unplug the camshaft position sensor under the distributor and you are in batch fire. Not a real big difference that i could tell, besides the ses light. The '92-'95's were batch fire only. The only difference may be felt at lower throttle inputs, at wot the injection is longer than the valve timing event anyhow i think. I'd just take a pick of the comp or crane offerings for whatever the goals of the engine are. I agree with the general consensus in this thread though, it probably won't add much power on an n/a truck, but use it on a boosted truck, or something that has a "half a$$ed" fuel system that can't keep consisten air fuel ratios, then there is deffinately a lot of potential. I kind of wish i had this manifold to start from, may have saved me a lot of work converting a stock manifold over to normal fuel injection with rails.
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06-08-2006, 10:56 PM	#26
tfpets 2UP1DOWN Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Location: Northern California User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay I saw them install that v-8 setup on horspower tv or trucks one time...the only modification from tbi to multi as far as wiring was some sort of adapter harness that spliced into the tbi injector wires....and they gutted the stock throttle body to use for the air intake throttle body...as I recall there was about a 35 hp gain and almost 50 torque gain....alot of that coming from the MUCH taller and straighter intake...all I can figure with the injector fire is they are firing 4 at a time and hoping the o2 works good enough to keep up.
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06-09-2006, 12:14 AM	#27
s10blaze43 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 222 Location: Atlantic City, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay how would the throttle linkage work if it hooks up on the opposite side? unless u could bolt on a stock throttle body?
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06-09-2006, 08:29 AM	#28
04Xtreme Registered User Age: 32 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 792 Location: Melvindale, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by s10blaze43 how would the throttle linkage work if it hooks up on the opposite side? unless u could bolt on a stock throttle body? bolt your stock TB to it
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06-09-2006, 12:54 PM	#29
01black4.3 limeade Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,072 Location: Texas User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Well, I would buy it but I want to let Mint figure it out first.
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06-09-2006, 02:17 PM	#30
bg's crap Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,096 Location: Who cares.. User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay There are options for the throttle cable.
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06-09-2006, 02:41 PM	#31
BlkS10Kid2002 www.Barstoolsports.com Age: 25 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,790 Location: Central MA User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay well mike u could mock it all up on the blazer and then once u know its good to go spend a day swapin shit ova to the dime
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06-09-2006, 03:04 PM	#32
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 27 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,472 Location: Danvers, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay Quote: Originally Posted by BlkS10Kid2002 well mike u could mock it all up on the blazer and then once u know its good to go spend a day swapin shit ova to the dime I ain't mocking SHIT up on the blazer, I will never turn a bolt on that truck under the hood again! If I get this I won't be exploring it for a little while, I want to get the truck running well with the current intake on there and make sure the engine is where it needs to be. As far as the modifications needed, other than splicing wires for the injectors (will need some injector connectors) it's just a matter of adapting the stock fuel lines to the manifold. EGR isn't a real concern for me since I can edit it out with tunercat and the inspection stations don't even do a visual inspection, doubt they would know what the hell they are looking at anyways. I don't forsee forced induction in my future but I would like to mess around with nitrous at some point, I think this manifold would work very well with a proper nitrous tune.
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06-09-2006, 05:59 PM	#33
s10blaze43 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 222 Location: Atlantic City, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay This looks like a sweet option instead of buying a 2114
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06-09-2006, 07:26 PM	#34
BeyondeXtReMe Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,478 Location: Halifax, NS, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay all the stock mercruiser 4.3's I've seen have 205 hp (same as the 4.3's in halftons)
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06-09-2006, 09:19 PM	#35
02_Black_XBlazer Starting from scratch... Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,331 Location: Over By There, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Interesting marine intake on eBay If you look at the sellers feedback, he just bought the thing not that long ago..I wonder why he's selling it so soon? Maybe Mint will get lucky and pay less than he did for it!
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