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Old 07-02-2008, 10:55 PM   #1
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Got a couple code's p0404 and a p0704

Went to autozone today to get my check engine light codes checked. Anyways its showing a p0404 which is a "The pcm has determined that the control circuit for the exhaust gas recirculation system is out of range for the current engine operating condition's." Also got a p0704 which is a "Pcm has determined that a malfunction exists in the input circuit for the clutch switch." Anyone help me determine how to fix these two code's? Im currently running without an evap can so i think thats why im getting the first code but whats up with the clutch switch one? Trucks a 98 4.3 s-10. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Got a couple code's p0404 and a p0704

Quote: Originally Posted by Proballer25
Went to autozone today to get my check engine light codes checked. Anyways its showing a p0404 which is a "The pcm has determined that the control circuit for the exhaust gas recirculation system is out of range for the current engine operating condition's." Also got a p0704 which is a "Pcm has determined that a malfunction exists in the input circuit for the clutch switch." Anyone help me determine how to fix these two code's? Im currently running without an evap can so i think thats why im getting the first code but whats up with the clutch switch one? Trucks a 98 4.3 s-10. Thanks for any help.
The P0404 could be a dirty EGR valve. Take it off, and clean it with some carb or brake cleaner. Clean out the exhaust port on the manifold and start the motor to blow out any crud. Remove battery ground cable for 10 minutes to clear any codes. Reinstall valve.

This is a stickshift, right? Do you have any problems with the clutch pedal when starting the truck? Can you start it with the clutch out? I would try wiggling the switch wiring and make sure that the plug is in solid. Should be under the dash on the clutch linkage.
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Re: Got a couple code's p0404 and a p0704

Circuit Description
The clutch pedal position (CPP) Switch is used to determine when the clutch pedal is applied. Ignition voltage is applied to the control module (PCM/VCM) CPP input through the CPP switch. When the clutch pedal is depressed, ignition voltage is removed from this input. The control module monitors the CPP signal for transitions during normal vehicle operations. If the control module detects that no clutch pedal applications have occurred during a predetermined test cycle, a DTC P0704 will be set.

Conditions for Running the DTC
• No active VS sensor DTCs

• The vehicle speed is now 0 mph but had been more than 40 mph (64 km/h).

• The brake is not applied.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
The VCM did not detect any changes in the clutch switch status.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets
• The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) if a failure is detected during 2 consecutive key cycles.

• The control module sets the DTC and records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic failed. The failure information is stored in the scan tool Freeze Frame/Failure Records.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL or DTC
• The control module turns OFF the MIL after 3 consecutive drive trips when the test has run and passed.

• A history DTC will clear if no fault conditions have been detected for 40 warm-up cycles. A warm-up cycle occurs when the coolant temperature has risen 22°C (40°F) from the startup coolant temperature and the engine coolant reaches a temperature that is more than 70°C (158°F) during the same ignition cycle.

• Use a scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.

Diagnostic Aids
When the clutch pedal is released, the clutch switch will be displayed Released in the scan tool data list.

If the brake pedal is applied with the clutch pedal released, the clutch switch will be displayed Applied in the scan tool data list.

When the clutch pedal is depressed, the clutch switch will be displayed Applied in the scan tool data list.

Check for the following conditions:

An intermittent may be caused by any of the following conditions:

• A poor connection

• Rubbed through wire insulation

• A broken wire inside the insulation

Thoroughly check any circuitry that is suspected of causing the intermittent complaint. Refer to Intermittents and Poor Connections Diagnosis in Wiring Systems.

If a repair is necessary, refer to Wiring Repairs or Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Test Description
The numbers below refer to the step numbers in the diagnostic table.

This test determines if the VCM is receiving data from the clutch switch.

This test determines if the clutch switch is stuck on or off.

This step checks for a short to B+ in the CPP switch input circuit.

Step
Action
Value(s)
Yes
No

1
Important: Before clearing the DTCs, use the scan tool Capture Info to save the Freeze Frame and Failure Records for reference. The control module's data is deleted once the Clear Info function is used.

Did you perform the Powertrain On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check?
--
Go to Step 2
Go to Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check

2
Turn OFF the ignition.
Install the scan tool.
Turn ON the ignition leaving the engine OFF.
Use the scan tool to display the clutch switch parameter.
Apply the clutch pedal and release the clutch pedal several times (be sure the brake pedal is RELEASED during this step).
Does the scan tool clutch parameter change states when the clutch pedal is applied and released?
--
Go to Step 3
Go to Step 4

3
The DTC is intermittent.

Are any additional DTCs stored?
--
Go to the applicable DTC Table
Go to Diagnostic Aids

4
Apply the clutch pedal with the Brake Pedal RELEASED.

Does the scan tool display the clutch switch APPLIED?
--
Go to Diagnostic Aids
Go to Step 5

5
Turn OFF the ignition.
Disconnect the clutch switch connector.
Turn ON the ignition leaving the engine OFF
Does the scan tool display the clutch switch APPLIED?
--
Go to Step 7
Go to Step 6

6
Turn OFF the ignition.
Disconnect the VCM C4 connector.
Turn ON the ignition leaving the engine OFF.
Probe the CPP switch input circuit at the VCM C4 connector with a test lamp connected to a ground.
Is the test lamp ON?
--
Go to Step 8
Go to Step 9

7
Replace the clutch pedal position switch. Refer to Clutch Pedal Engine Start Switch Replacement in Clutch.

Is the action complete?
--
Go to Step 10
--

8
Repair the short to voltage in the CPP switch input circuit. Refer to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Is the action complete?
--
Go to Step 10
--

9
Replace the VCM.
Program the new VCM. Refer to VCM Replacement/Programming .
Perform the VTD Password Learn Procedure. Refer to Password Learn .
Perform the CKP System Variation Learn Procedure. Refer to Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn .
Is the action complete?
--
Go to Step 10
--

10
Using the scan tool, clear the DTCs.
Start the engine.
Allow the engine to idle until the engine reaches normal operating temperature.
Select DTC and the Specific DTC function.
Enter the DTC number which was set.
Operate the vehicle, with the Conditions for Setting this DTC, until the scan tool indicates the diagnostic Ran.
Does the scan tool indicate the diagnostic Passed?
--
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 2

11
Does the scan tool display any additional undiagnosed DTCs?
--
Go to the applicable DTC table
System OK
Old 07-03-2008, 01:36 PM   #4
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Re: Got a couple code's p0404 and a p0704

thanks for the info guys ill check it out.
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Re: Got a couple code's p0404 and a p0704

Quote: Originally Posted by Proballer25
thanks for the info guys ill check it out.
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