FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump

GeneP · 03-19-2006, 07:25 PM

For those who have experienced the P0410 code there is a bulletin out that says to replace the air injector pump & hose. From my experience, 6 months or so ago I got the code, bought the new pump & hose, but never got around to installing it. Then about 400 miles later the code went away. I still never got around to installing the new pump (Now collecting dust on the shelf). So couple weeks ago, without getting any code, when I shut off the truck I hear the pump still running. To make a long story short. The relay located right next to the fuse (Next to the battery) had stuck in the closed position allowing the pump to run continuously. Replaced the relay & all is well. I had read somewhere that GM also documented that the P0410 code would go away mysteriously. Wonder how many folks had the dealer install new air injector pumps when they didin't need one.

Gene

choppingXtreme · 03-19-2006, 07:42 PM

good info. My pump actually did go out on mine last week. I was sure to check the fuse and replay first before tearing into the pump. Both the fuse and relay was good, so I went into the pump. I ran a 12volt wire to the pump and it didn't move at all. After tearing it apart I actually got it to working after getting all the water out of it, but sometimes it would work and something it would freeze up.. Seems the inside of the pump motor is burnt from all the water and mositure buildup, so I'm gonna order a new one, but I'll be sure to extend the intake hose to keep this from happening again...

Also i did get the PO410 when i got the code ran at autozone. I was hoping it would've been the fuse or relay, but oh well...

GeneP · 03-19-2006, 10:10 PM

They have a new hose that's supposed to prevent water from entering the pump. The new one I got was infact different. Here's a link to the bulletin:
http://www.acdelcotechconnect.com/pd...sb_04D-183.pdf

Gene

choppingXtreme · 03-19-2006, 10:18 PM

do you know how the hose is different?? I figure it would be longer, so get it out of the way of the water that is thrown under the the radiator..

GeneP · 03-20-2006, 09:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by choppingXtreme

do you know how the hose is different?? I figure it would be longer, so get it out of the way of the water that is thrown under the the radiator..

Picture is worth a thousand words. Here's the new hose I got. It has a cap type breather I would guess to prevent direct entry of water. Plus additional vacuum hoses & electrical connections.

Gene
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1142863212

x-rated · 03-20-2006, 10:03 AM

i've actually heard a few different things about this problem. stuff like its a warranty/recall type item, if you're still actually under warranty. and that its really not that big of a problem, and that you can even just keep running without it for a little while. any truth to these things? and also, what does this part actually do? i've heard something about recycling warm air back into the cycle at start-up to make warm-up quicker....is that it?

choppingXtreme · 03-21-2006, 06:36 PM

UPDATE:

well, i took it upon myself to call GM today knowing I would end up getting pissed and hanging up the phone...I gave all the info i could on my truck and air injector problem as well as the hose replacement..Service rep said that there wasn't any other files on record about this problem, and that they coudn't do anything unless i was to bring it to a GM service dealer and have the codes read..Then MAYBE (notice maybe) they might help me..So let's compare here...

A. GM to check my truck for code $85+tax
Then if they don't help me I'm out more $$ for the pump and replacement hose. GAMBLE

Or Option

B.Buy the new pump myself for $85 shipped and not worry about going through the GM bullshit

I'm taking Option B.

I told the Service rep about how big of a problem this is for all S-series owners, and there wasn't no files recorded except for mine, so no help..I even told about them about the recall/bulletin and it didnt' seem to help none. They said is basicly to help out the Techs when the truck throws the PO410 code..So i'm off to order the $85 pump that doesnt' do shit to enhance my truck other than keep the air clean... As i knew i would, I ended up getting pissed, and hangin up the phone..

If alot of you guys would call GM, and give them a new file with this problem ,they might would recall. But untill then i guess they will be making some extra dough to fill up their snack machines..later.

choppingXtreme · 03-21-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GeneP

Picture is worth a thousand words. Here's the new hose I got. It has a cap type breather I would guess to prevent direct entry of water. Plus additional vacuum hoses & electrical connections.

Gene
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1142863212

well if I add a longer intake hose and route it to a place away from water entry I see no point in ordering another $40 part on top of the pump.. I'll see how it turns out after i get the new pump in..thanks for the pics.

edit: unless the new pump comes with the hose, but I doubt it, since they have different part #'s for both the pump and hose..I'll soon see i guess.

DeathSlinger00 · 12-27-2010, 07:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GeneP

They have a new hose that's supposed to prevent water from entering the pump. The new one I got was infact different. Here's a link to the bulletin:
http://www.acdelcotechconnect.com/pd...sb_04D-183.pdf

Gene

hey GM: no pics??? wtf?!

and gene, i looked at the pic you posted of the new hose that is used. and, how do i know if mine's been done or not? i don't want to spend the coin on getting a set of updated hoses that are already installed. are there any specific characteristics (other than "the new one's longer) that'll help me know whether or not i have the old ones? thanks!

choppingXtreme · 12-27-2010, 07:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DeathSlinger00

hey GM: no pics??? wtf?!

and gene, i looked at the pic you posted of the new hose that is used. and, how do i know if mine's been done or not? i don't want to spend the coin on getting a set of updated hoses that are already installed. are there any specific characteristics (other than "the new one's longer) that'll help me know whether or not i have the old ones? thanks!

You do realize your asking a question from a post 4 years ago?

Hope it works out for you

DeathSlinger00 · 12-27-2010, 07:54 PM

yeah, i went with this thread because of the amount of available information on the subject. that, and i googled it instead of starting a new topic and getting roasted.

and p.s. i have a 2.2

03-19-2006, 07:25 PM	#1
GeneP Registered User Age: 57 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 38 Location: User is: OffLine	FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump For those who have experienced the P0410 code there is a bulletin out that says to replace the air injector pump & hose. From my experience, 6 months or so ago I got the code, bought the new pump & hose, but never got around to installing it. Then about 400 miles later the code went away. I still never got around to installing the new pump (Now collecting dust on the shelf). So couple weeks ago, without getting any code, when I shut off the truck I hear the pump still running. To make a long story short. The relay located right next to the fuse (Next to the battery) had stuck in the closed position allowing the pump to run continuously. Replaced the relay & all is well. I had read somewhere that GM also documented that the P0410 code would go away mysteriously. Wonder how many folks had the dealer install new air injector pumps when they didin't need one. Gene
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03-19-2006, 07:42 PM	#2
choppingXtreme Ex Bagged Minitrucker Age: 29 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,795 Location: Alex,Louisiana User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump good info. My pump actually did go out on mine last week. I was sure to check the fuse and replay first before tearing into the pump. Both the fuse and relay was good, so I went into the pump. I ran a 12volt wire to the pump and it didn't move at all. After tearing it apart I actually got it to working after getting all the water out of it, but sometimes it would work and something it would freeze up.. Seems the inside of the pump motor is burnt from all the water and mositure buildup, so I'm gonna order a new one, but I'll be sure to extend the intake hose to keep this from happening again... Also i did get the PO410 when i got the code ran at autozone. I was hoping it would've been the fuse or relay, but oh well... Last edited by choppingXtreme; 03-19-2006 at 07:43 PM.
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03-19-2006, 10:10 PM	#3
GeneP Registered User Age: 57 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 38 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump They have a new hose that's supposed to prevent water from entering the pump. The new one I got was infact different. Here's a link to the bulletin: http://www.acdelcotechconnect.com/pd...sb_04D-183.pdf Gene
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03-19-2006, 10:18 PM	#4
choppingXtreme Ex Bagged Minitrucker Age: 29 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,795 Location: Alex,Louisiana User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump do you know how the hose is different?? I figure it would be longer, so get it out of the way of the water that is thrown under the the radiator..
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03-20-2006, 09:02 AM	#5
GeneP Registered User Age: 57 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 38 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump Quote: Originally Posted by choppingXtreme do you know how the hose is different?? I figure it would be longer, so get it out of the way of the water that is thrown under the the radiator.. Picture is worth a thousand words. Here's the new hose I got. It has a cap type breather I would guess to prevent direct entry of water. Plus additional vacuum hoses & electrical connections. Gene http://www.s10forum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1142863212 Attached Thumbnails
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03-20-2006, 10:03 AM	#6
x-rated Registered Drug User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 933 Location: Canada User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump i've actually heard a few different things about this problem. stuff like its a warranty/recall type item, if you're still actually under warranty. and that its really not that big of a problem, and that you can even just keep running without it for a little while. any truth to these things? and also, what does this part actually do? i've heard something about recycling warm air back into the cycle at start-up to make warm-up quicker....is that it?
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03-21-2006, 06:36 PM	#7
choppingXtreme Ex Bagged Minitrucker Age: 29 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,795 Location: Alex,Louisiana User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump UPDATE: well, i took it upon myself to call GM today knowing I would end up getting pissed and hanging up the phone...I gave all the info i could on my truck and air injector problem as well as the hose replacement..Service rep said that there wasn't any other files on record about this problem, and that they coudn't do anything unless i was to bring it to a GM service dealer and have the codes read..Then MAYBE (notice maybe) they might help me..So let's compare here... A. GM to check my truck for code $85+tax Then if they don't help me I'm out more $$ for the pump and replacement hose. GAMBLE Or Option B.Buy the new pump myself for $85 shipped and not worry about going through the GM bullshit I'm taking Option B. I told the Service rep about how big of a problem this is for all S-series owners, and there wasn't no files recorded except for mine, so no help..I even told about them about the recall/bulletin and it didnt' seem to help none. They said is basicly to help out the Techs when the truck throws the PO410 code..So i'm off to order the $85 pump that doesnt' do shit to enhance my truck other than keep the air clean... As i knew i would, I ended up getting pissed, and hangin up the phone.. If alot of you guys would call GM, and give them a new file with this problem ,they might would recall. But untill then i guess they will be making some extra dough to fill up their snack machines..later.
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03-21-2006, 06:38 PM	#8
choppingXtreme Ex Bagged Minitrucker Age: 29 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,795 Location: Alex,Louisiana User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump Quote: Originally Posted by GeneP Picture is worth a thousand words. Here's the new hose I got. It has a cap type breather I would guess to prevent direct entry of water. Plus additional vacuum hoses & electrical connections. Gene http://www.s10forum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1142863212 well if I add a longer intake hose and route it to a place away from water entry I see no point in ordering another $40 part on top of the pump.. I'll see how it turns out after i get the new pump in..thanks for the pics. edit: unless the new pump comes with the hose, but I doubt it, since they have different part #'s for both the pump and hose..I'll soon see i guess. Last edited by choppingXtreme; 03-21-2006 at 06:40 PM.
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12-27-2010, 07:39 PM	#9
DeathSlinger00 Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 638 Location: Elyria, OH User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump Quote: Originally Posted by GeneP They have a new hose that's supposed to prevent water from entering the pump. The new one I got was infact different. Here's a link to the bulletin: http://www.acdelcotechconnect.com/pd...sb_04D-183.pdf Gene hey GM: no pics??? wtf?! and gene, i looked at the pic you posted of the new hose that is used. and, how do i know if mine's been done or not? i don't want to spend the coin on getting a set of updated hoses that are already installed. are there any specific characteristics (other than "the new one's longer) that'll help me know whether or not i have the old ones? thanks!
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12-27-2010, 07:51 PM	#10
choppingXtreme Ex Bagged Minitrucker Age: 29 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,795 Location: Alex,Louisiana User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump Quote: Originally Posted by DeathSlinger00 hey GM: no pics??? wtf?! and gene, i looked at the pic you posted of the new hose that is used. and, how do i know if mine's been done or not? i don't want to spend the coin on getting a set of updated hoses that are already installed. are there any specific characteristics (other than "the new one's longer) that'll help me know whether or not i have the old ones? thanks! You do realize your asking a question from a post 4 years ago? Hope it works out for you
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12-27-2010, 07:54 PM	#11
DeathSlinger00 Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 638 Location: Elyria, OH User is: OffLine	Re: FYI: P0410 Code / Air Injector Pump yeah, i went with this thread because of the amount of available information on the subject. that, and i googled it instead of starting a new topic and getting roasted. and p.s. i have a 2.2
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