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Old 06-24-2010, 10:14 AM   #1
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tailpipe turbo

Or remote mount turbo.

I'm just curious I'm thinking of setting a turbo where the cat usually is and running the intake back up into the truck. Not sure if there is enough space down there in the first place and wouldn't that give a bunch of lag?

I guess I'm not to concerned about lag as j won't really be racing it just more for fun and more power . The most I plan to run would be 8psi but 6psi at first for a while.
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Re: tailpipe turbo

This will help you get started. Check out the threads and do a search, people have done remote mounts before.

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Re: tailpipe turbo

Search won't help for a remote mount for a 2.2. I can only recall one and not sure if it was ever compleated.
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Did a search couldn't find anything specific.
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Re: tailpipe turbo

The turbo guys need to chime in but that is the same place I am considering and there is plenty of room on the passenger side of the motor to run pipe. Even more if you relocate the coils.
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Re: tailpipe turbo

didn't realize how few remote mounts are on 2.2's. I always see threads on them, but I guess they have the 4.3 etc..

Does your truck have a/c? If not, why don't you go with a traditional setup? Just wondering why you want remote mount. Is it for ease of installation?

I know this isn't a 2.2, but the location of the turbo should be the same, since engine/drivetrain won't change the remote mount location as much.
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f11/re...o-pics-348493/


I'm searching for older threads on the same topic.
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f105/turbo-f-a-q-128219/
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f11/2-...-turbo-391204/
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f105/t...ofyguy-244439/

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Re: tailpipe turbo

I agree and doesn't the charged air get cooler by the time it gets back to the TB?
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yea it might be cooler but u have to remember it takes a little time for the turbo to spool and the amout of time it will take to force all that boost to the intake, your gonna get a little bit. and it will prolly affect your spooling time alot too! so you will def need a smaller turbo for quicker rpm spool
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Yea that's what I thought. That's why I planned on using a small one like a t28 and running it where the cat was and running a small intercooler in front still
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why not just swap a 350 in? it would cost your about the same, youd be happier with that then runnin low boost on stock internals where you could only safely run like 7psi if your lucky. now if you want to rebuild atleast your bottom end to handle higher boost levels thats a dif story.

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oh come on !! this is the 2.2 section. its not the normal v8 swap that every one does. its not for racing its just a little somthing to get the old 2.2 moving and still getting great mpgs you can run 8 lbs all day long with no problems all depends on how your motor was took care of. I head poeple running the dts kit for thousands of miles NO problems. and you could do the remote turbo for almost dirt cheap.
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Re: tailpipe turbo

Quote: Originally Posted by Draggin_Dreams
why not just swap a 350 in? it would cost your about the same, youd be happier with that then runnin low boost on stock internals where you could only safely run like 7psi if your lucky. now if you want to rebuild atleast your bottom end to handle higher boost levels thats a dif story.
You must be new....
a 350 would cost more end of story.
as far as how much boost you can run safely?
well that depends on your tune. 300k is doing 20+ psi on a stock motor.
i dont recomend that high but it can be done
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Re: tailpipe turbo

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Or remote mount turbo.

I'm just curious I'm thinking of setting a turbo where the cat usually is and running the intake back up into the truck. Not sure if there is enough space down there in the first place and wouldn't that give a bunch of lag?

I guess I'm not to concerned about lag as j won't really be racing it just more for fun and more power . The most I plan to run would be 8psi but 6psi at first for a while.
why not keep it under hood?
dts is a lot like a remote mount but no oil scavange pump, no fears of what may happen to the turbo under the truck and less piping so faster spool.
there is more room under hood with an electric fan than there is under the truck.

you will need a really small turbo to get it to spool quick, fyi I my first turbo was a t28 ball bearing. it would still be big on a remote mount for spool time
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Re: tailpipe turbo

i know. most of the reason im looking at remote mount is cause its easy and cheep to set up. that and im also thinking of underhood temps and price. if i could do the underhood setup for as cheep as i could the remote mount i would.
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Re: tailpipe turbo

Quote: Originally Posted by NevurMind85
i know. most of the reason im looking at remote mount is cause its easy and cheep to set up. that and im also thinking of underhood temps and price. if i could do the underhood setup for as cheep as i could the remote mount i would.
You can do it cheaper.
a good scavange pump is definately not cheap.
i'm sure 300k's junkyard build was very budget friendly.
and again less piping with under hood will also mean less cost.

The bulk of the price will be needed in both kits.
but with a rear mount it would also be good to run a larger external waste gate to avoid boost creep
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Re: tailpipe turbo

shurflo 8000 series. this is a scavenge pump alot of guys from homemadeturbo.com use in remote setups. got mine off egay for 40 bucks.
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Re: tailpipe turbo

post your setup junior
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Re: tailpipe turbo

i havnt done it yet. just waitin for some extra cash. im gonna run a rhb5. its off a mazda mx6 or 626. the motor in those was a 2.2. its undersized even for that car but with the lag that rear mounts cause, gives enough reason to try. if you realy wanna go cheap shop craigslist and ebay. you can also use abs piping for your charge piping.
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Quote: Originally Posted by junior7389
shurflo 8000 series. this is a scavenge pump alot of guys from homemadeturbo.com use in remote setups. got mine off egay for 40 bucks.
thats still $40 you wouldnt have to spend keeping it under the hood...
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Re: tailpipe turbo

here is what i am thinking, but for the money might as well go with the dts kit, but problem i am having, i still want my good gas mileage and want my motor to last, but i have obdI so what do i do about tuning?

http://www.ststurbo.com/universal_turbo_systems
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Low boost and fmu
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thats my plan is about 7-8psi and an fmu and be done with it. if i put the turbo where the cat goes cant i still run oil off the motor since it will be close?
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Quote: Originally Posted by NevurMind85
thats my plan is about 7-8psi and an fmu and be done with it. if i put the turbo where the cat goes cant i still run oil off the motor since it will be close?
Cant run the return up hill so you have to have a scavange pump in the return line

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Quote: Originally Posted by junior7389
i havnt done it yet. just waitin for some extra cash. im gonna run a rhb5. its off a mazda mx6 or 626. the motor in those was a 2.2. its undersized even for that car but with the lag that rear mounts cause, gives enough reason to try. if you realy wanna go cheap shop craigslist and ebay. you can also use abs piping for your charge piping.
lol my best friend had an 89 mazda mx6 turbo which came with all wheel steering. its a good turbo his just kept eating them. motor was going bad. if he still had the thing id steal the turbo off it.
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maybe ill just make the old style dts kit where it used the stock manifold and roughted the exhust back around to infront and then out the pass side of the motor. and would i need to run stainless exhaust or would regular be fine?
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stainless would hold up better but mild will work
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ok good. im only gonna run up to 8psi so i assume thats plenty strong enough.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NevurMind85
ok good. im only gonna run up to 8psi so i assume thats plenty strong enough.
just make sure to brace the turbo
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yea i kinda figured id need to build a brace to hold up the turbo.
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stupid question i am sry but what is "fmu"
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Quote: Originally Posted by 95-s10
stupid question i am sry but what is "fmu"
It's a fuel management unit. Basically something that lets you control fuel flow rate.
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yep. sure is.
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if i were you i would do it under hood, think about weather too, will u be driving this in rain, or bad conditions, u have to account for bumps or animals ir they get underneath too id hate to have a coon hit my turbo underneath lol, but its ur truck whatever ud o goodluck with it,for a fmu i would go with the begi fmui believe thats what its called correct me if im wrong! thats what i was first gonna run before i got injectors!
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Re: tailpipe turbo

Here's a remote/rear mounted turbo system done on a Cavalier with the 2200('98+2.2L): http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...52782&t=152782 .
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Quote: Originally Posted by LowNoma01
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yea im just gonna do an underhood setup run an fmu on 8psi and be done with it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by MadJack
Here's a remote/rear mounted turbo system done on a Cavalier with the 2200('98+2.2L): http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...52782&t=152782 .
thats freakin sick. thanks for posting that man.
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Re: tailpipe turbo

does anyone think there is enough space for a turbo right after the manifold? i dont think there is but i could be wrong.
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tight fit. and it might need a scavenge pump if it sits too low.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NevurMind85
does anyone think there is enough space for a turbo right after the manifold? i dont think there is but i could be wrong.
starter clearance could be an issue
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yea that too and if theres too much heat hitting the starter they tend to go bad.
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If you can get by without the cat, put it there. It will need a scavenge pump but isn't too far back either. Run a header and down pipe to the turbo, then run a 3" exhaust from the turbo back. This will give you a quicker spool and plenty of rpm range while under boost.
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cool, im already running a gutted cat so thats no issue lol. and im not to concerned about turbo lag or a late spool.

i figure if i put it where the cat is that ill build a box around it to protect it from road debris.
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