K&N FIPK Dyno Results!

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O.K. As some of you may know I work for Dynojet...the manufacturer of the chassis dynamometer.

Anyway, I had picked up my truck in august and installed the Gibson cat back shortly after. I didnt do a true baseline(as in BONE stock) however I did do a run with just a K&N panelfilter and the Gibson. My best run was 88 rwhp...and I typically do a set of 5 to 6 funs minimum. The other runs were anywhere from a low of 84.9 all the way up to 88 flat.

Well I installed the K&N FIPK intake setup this week and got a chance to put her on the r&d dyno again at work. And to be totally honest, I was not really expecting any gains. The guys at K&N gave me a great deal on one(they have one of our dynos) so I was more going for the look and the sound.

WELL, my best run was just over 93rwhp!..the other runs were 90, 92, 91. The lowest number I could muster was 89rwhp!

That is a solid 5% gain across the board in addition to a much cooler sound

And since it is a little bit cooler today, I decided to not have any fans pointing directly at the truck. When it was warmer I had fans pointed right at the front of the truck. I think that helps even out the results too cause everything else is unchanged and consistent as it possibly can be, same gas, same dyno, same procedure, same tire pressure etc.

I will post dyno runs soon along with air/fuel graphs. Just figured i would give you guys some hard evidence. My truck, now code named "Project Century Mark" has to hit 100 rwhp with bolt ons. Next comes a header and HP Tuners!!!


CHRIS

[What?]

Not bad, post up the dyno sheets

[ProTouring2.2]

BULLSHIT!






j/k. Nice to see someone else workin on the 2.2

[whiteSdime03]

Now do the 2.3L TB mod and let us know!!

[chevyDime98]

that tb mod works, if ur measuring in the but-o-meter dyno. as for the the K&N dyno numbers that sounds more than what the promised increase (dyno sheet) that comes with the kit??? cool.

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I think according to K&N, 6.5hp at the wheels is supposed to be the expected gain. The reason I expected little or nothing is because I have been in the automotive performance business now for quite awhile...and the majority of products sold out their to "make more horsepower" do little or nothing. Even alot of the most reputable companies have alot of "performance products" that will NOT make additional repeatable power. They will have dyno sheets but they may take the worst hot dyno run and then the best cold run and say "There's your gain" and its b/s and they know it. But thats how they make money. I talk to people all day who say, "I spent all this money and your dyno shows I didnt make any more power" They are pissed and out alot of money but the car runs similar times at the track so we know the gains were minimal.

This mod made more power AND does feel better in the midrange...maybe even a little off the bottom as well.

I will post some dyno sheets tomorrow.


CHRIS

[Chris0nllyn]

sweet, money well spent i guess

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Here was my best baseline BEFORE the intake...a very clean run with a damn straight air fuel...


CHRIS

[GeorgesBlazah]

Cool!@

[ProTouring2.2]

Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah

Cool!@

I'm stealin yours, nucca

[XDime01]

The pulleys and E-fan are good mods to look into for running 100 hp+. Pulleys are suposed to give 7hp by itself so theres your 100.

[beandip]

Now all we need to do is see if there is any difference between the ebay intakes and the K&N FIPK. i wanna go mod my 2.2 now!

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I think a header, pulley, efans and some HP Tuners would keep me over 100rwhp at the tires for even the worst runs. I can have my boss do the HP Tuners for $99 cause its just 2 credits at $50 each but I dont know if the gains will really be there. Maybe leaning out the afr a tiny bit and playing with the timing will yield 3 or 4 hp extra...who knows. Then I get to run higher octane just for a few more ponies...is it worth it? Not to mention, I dont think our trucks have knock sensors so its not like the truck will be able to retard the timing if there is knock.

I was trying to make a .bmp file out of my runs at work today..I will play a bit with it tomorrow. Looking back, my best run was actually 92 rwhp now that I look at it...it rounds down, not up. My bad Either way...100rwhp or bust.



CHRIS

[DMP]

Its nice to see someone looking into what really works for the 2.2. An easy rule of thumb, more air= more power. Im heavily into quads (ATV's), and usually by removing the airbox lid will require you to rejet because of more air. I knew the K&N would add power to the 2.2....but the question was how much? If the stock intake isnt restrictive than an aftermarket intake wouldnt help either. But that wasnt the case. Im looking forward to seeing more.

[chevyDime98]

eventhough its still slow, i love my K&N over my chromeintakes. sounds better and runs a lil better

[whiteSdime03]

Like I said you MUST add the 2.3L throttle body and do a run...install it ASAP and post a sheet! Please, the mod is worth it you will love it snd I know everyone else wants to know how much it actually adds.

[S-10Driver]

sweet man, i was thinking about trying the exact thing you are doing, breaking into the triple digits. haha

i'm been thinking about getting those sts pulleys, still not sure yet though. that and i need to dig around and find a 56mm tb.

don't forget you can put a efan on it too, i recommend the 3.8 Taurus unit.

oh and a 'vette tranny servo, cause us autos gotta have some fun too when we shift. if ya got some stock-ish size tires they'll spin on the 1-2 shift in the rain. kinda makes me regret getting my 245/50's....cause that was always fun todo. haha

[Chris0nllyn]

Quote: Originally Posted by DMP

An easy rule of thumb, more air= more power.

but you need fuel to go with that air

[DMP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn

but you need fuel to go with that air

Yeah exactly. Thats why I said I had to rejet my quad.

[02S-10]

I know I love my K&N and flowmaster exhaust I need to get a new clutch soon then I'll be happy for awhile.

[whiteSdime03]

I'd be willing to bet you'd break into the 100's with the 2.3L TB..

[Chris0nllyn]

Quote: Originally Posted by whiteSdime03

I'd be willing to bet you'd break into the 100's with the 2.3L TB..

12HP from a throttle body?...i dont think so

[What?]

nice run, 56mmTB alone won't bring it over to 100hp however, pnp head EASILY do that without a headache, but kamikaze will bring ya at least 10hp, but once putting all mods together, power will come.

Efan is a recommended too along with smaller crank pulley.. My 2.2L(Al's header on, no piping after that , 56mmTB, K&N FIPK, ASP Pulley, it rev a lot quicker than it did last time with clutch fan on, but I had full piping on last time, I should have it up and running again with MSD inline fuel pump and need to swap to nonshaven door and hope to break low 17s

[2kwik4u]

Quote: Originally Posted by What?

hope to break low 17s

Man I haven't posted here in a good while.

Just wanted to give you a heads up on that Et goal. With my '00 S10 4cyl/5sp reg cab/stepside bed I ran a 16.99 two years ago at S-Series Nationals. Mods to the driveline were ASP crank pulley, eFan, Magnaflow muffler (not catback, just replacement muffler), and thats it. Stock intake was still on there with a swissed airbox, and K&N panel filter. Oh, and the Zexel rear carrier. I was even running the heavy ass C5 wheels with 275/40/17's at each corner.

Practicing driving will get you into the 16's without any more mods IMO.

[ProTouring2.2]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2kwik4u

Man I haven't posted here in a good while.

Just wanted to give you a heads up on that Et goal. With my '00 S10 4cyl/5sp reg cab/stepside bed I ran a 16.99 two years ago at S-Series Nationals. Mods to the driveline were ASP crank pulley, eFan, Magnaflow muffler (not catback, just replacement muffler), and thats it. Stock intake was still on there with a swissed airbox, and K&N panel filter. Oh, and the Zexel rear carrier. I was even running the heavy ass C5 wheels with 275/40/17's at each corner.

Practicing driving will get you into the 16's without any more mods IMO.

There we go... some positive attitude.

The locking rear probably helped a lot. Did you launch? What were your shift RPM's?

[S-10Driver]

i wish i would have jumped on one of those zexel kits when slp sold them for so cheap....

[whiteSdime03]

I believe the 2.3 TB would make it or damn close to 100 RWHP. I think he should do the mods 1 at a time to see the amount of increase per mod and which is the best IMO

[Chris0nllyn]

Quote: Originally Posted by whiteSdime03

I believe the 2.3 TB would make it or damn close to 100 RWHP. I think he should do the mods 1 at a time to see the amount of increase per mod and which is the best IMO

[S-10Driver]

Quote: Originally Posted by whiteSdime03

I believe the 2.3 TB would make it or damn close to 100 RWHP. I think he should do the mods 1 at a time to see the amount of increase per mod and which is the best IMO

man, your all about that TB aint ya? lol

on a side note, i'd like to pull one myself...but i'm too busy to go look.

[2kwik4u]

The zex didn't help alot. Those wide-ass tires on the back grip really well, and I had a hard time getting em to turn over to begin with, without dropping the clutch at like 4k rpm....Also I forgot to mention I also have the hop shock added to the truck. Custom bracket on the axle, stock bracket on the frame.

I launched at ~3500rpm, and feathered the clutch just a bit to keep the revs up. I shifted just under 6k rpm. I forget what my MPH was (Nationals staff took the slip as proof, and I never saw it again ). I do know it was dead nuts consistent though. Would run 16.98-16.99 every time. I could've dialed in a 16.97 and ran all night, and never broke out, and been within 1/4 second on each run. Wonder if I can make some money bracket racing with this thing?

[bladehines]

that is a good time! fastest i got mine was 18.4 and i have efan, intake, no cat, and flowmaster.

my problem with mine was i wasn't holding the REV's as high as needed, i shifted around 4800 rpm. and also my tires are really short so i got a good jump off the line, but i would smoke the hell out of them too.

my fastest was 18.4 at 75, 2.2 5speed, reg cab. the tires on the rear are 265x55x15's

[What?]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2kwik4u

The zex didn't help alot. Those wide-ass tires on the back grip really well, and I had a hard time getting em to turn over to begin with, without dropping the clutch at like 4k rpm....Also I forgot to mention I also have the hop shock added to the truck. Custom bracket on the axle, stock bracket on the frame.

I launched at ~3500rpm, and feathered the clutch just a bit to keep the revs up. I shifted just under 6k rpm. I forget what my MPH was (Nationals staff took the slip as proof, and I never saw it again ). I do know it was dead nuts consistent though. Would run 16.98-16.99 every time. I could've dialed in a 16.97 and ran all night, and never broke out, and been within 1/4 second on each run. Wonder if I can make some money bracket racing with this thing?

Instead hop shock, leaf helper spring does the same but eliminates 100% of wheel hop, I did wanted the hop shock, but leaf helper spring does it for $30 with no bracket made, sounds good runs however are you able to run your truck again and keep the slip this time? to Confirm breakin 16s

[2kwik4u]

Quote: Originally Posted by What?

Instead hop shock, leaf helper spring does the same but eliminates 100% of wheel hop, I did wanted the hop shock, but leaf helper spring does it for $30 with no bracket made, sounds good runs however are you able to run your truck again and keep the slip this time? to Confirm breakin 16s

I've yet to experience any wheel hop with the 3rd shock in there. 100% solution IMO. Although considerably more cashola than the helper springs, I think I have $150 in mine total. If I didn't have access to a machine/fabrication shop it would've been another story I think.

Currently the truck has been sitting since March with a serioues lack of oil pressure. I'm guessing the bearings are nearing the end, so I quit driving it. After 200k miles of beating on it, its finally giving up on me. With that said, I am heading to Davenport Iowa next weekend to pickup a "new" motor/trans for it. OK not really new, but it only has 55k miles on it, so it might as well be new.

The local Sy/Ty guys are planning a track day at Bowling green towards the end of October. I hope to have the new motor/trans in there for that event/meet. With any luck I should be able to backup those 16.99's with some scanned timeslips. If not it'll be a springtime track day before I get more slips.

I just went and spent a few minutes searching for my posts on S-seriesforum.com about the times I ran at nationals. Looks like two years ago I ran an 18.4@74mph. The fastest truck list over there has me at 17.94@74mph. For the life of me I can find neither the slip, nor the post referring to the 16.99 runs anywhere. Until I can find those posts, or backup my times, I'll just have to keep talking about the slip that got away