HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta

foff667 · 03-17-2006, 10:25 PM

http://www.hptuners.com/order.php

wayfastwhitey · 03-17-2006, 10:33 PM

about damn time!...lists the 97, with then engines that year going from 95-97. Anyone know if they had a significant change to the PCM in 97 that would make this not compatible with the two years prior?

foff667 · 03-20-2006, 09:22 AM

I would say if you have a question on why they dont support & when/if they will post up in that specific section of the forum...they had a poll a few months ago & those were the most requested so they started work on them www.hptuners.com but voicing your opinions on what you'd like to see is probably the best way to get what you want.

ThorRacing01 · 03-20-2006, 09:28 AM

what is this thing and what can you do with it? it looks way over my head

NateZQ8 · 03-20-2006, 11:18 AM

Yeah.........exactly..........is it a program that we can hook up to our trucks or what is it and what can it do for us?

wayfastwhitey · 03-20-2006, 12:46 PM

It's the necessary hardware and software to allow editing of the PCM. Allows you to change things like injector pulse, timing curve, all the stuff you need to adjust when installing a big cam or boost. Cam profiles have been limited with the 2.2 because there was no way to edit the timing with the stock PCM. Now, you can have a custom cam ground and then tune it. I'm sure that the aftermarket will boom because of this as well.

NateZQ8 · 03-20-2006, 03:45 PM

So if you have stock internals it really means nothing to you?

wayfastwhitey · 03-20-2006, 04:19 PM

With just a stock motor, I'm sure you can use it to find some power through fuel and timing. It will allow you to tune each cylinder individually. Would it be worth the $500 on a stock motor? Probably not, but then that's just a guess as this is a new product with not much test data available.

foff667 · 03-20-2006, 10:47 PM

its a pcm editor & data logger so you can gather information about your computer & tune it to your needs rather then just some canned tune...fuel, spark, TM, shift points, tire size changes you name it it can do it and do it well

they support hundreds of year/models of cars/trucks/suv's and are expanding to offer tuning support to fords/chryslers so no matter what you buy they'll probably support it.

foff667 · 03-20-2006, 10:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NateZQ8

So if you have stock internals it really means nothing to you?

furthest thing from the truth...any vehicle can benefit from a good tune not only for full throttle but part throttle performance.

wayfastwhitey · 03-21-2006, 02:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by foff667

furthest thing from the truth...any vehicle can benefit from a good tune not only for full throttle but part throttle performance.

Agreed. There is always power to be found from the proper tune. Stock guys can now have a little more power while guys wanting to build their 2.2 are now no longer limited to parts that will work with the stock PCM, aftermarket PCM's that cost thousands, or the required fabrication skills and knowledge to turn it into a carbed motor and adjustable timing. This is really going to open up a lot of possibilities for the little 4-banger as well as the potential for a good aftermarket.

LoRollinLS · 03-21-2006, 06:07 PM

awesome, bout time huh

Purplepimp · 03-21-2006, 06:38 PM

97!?! should they work for 96? That would be hella nice since I am planning on building up the 2.2 in my truck as soon as I pull in out and put the fresh one in.

wayfastwhitey · 03-21-2006, 07:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Purplepimp

97!?! should they work for 96? That would be hella nice since I am planning on building up the 2.2 in my truck as soon as I pull in out and put the fresh one in.

That was my question. Since the same motor was in from 95-97 and then there were the head revisions in the newer models. But I'm not sure about significant changes to the PCM. I've got a question in to HP Tuners about that, but haven't heard back from them yet.

foff667 · 03-21-2006, 08:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wayfastwhitey

That was my question. Since the same motor was in from 95-97 and then there were the head revisions in the newer models. But I'm not sure about significant changes to the PCM. I've got a question in to HP Tuners about that, but haven't heard back from them yet.

emailing sales at hptuners dot com is the best way to get your point across...the more emails they get from similar situations it seems the better they listen

if theres no market for something its hard to justify spending time/money on coding/research.

irish trash · 03-22-2006, 05:27 AM

any idea if their software will allow you to edit other codes like ABS sensors or A/C codes?

the reason i ask is for those of us that have removed the ABS system and A/C (as well as other components) and need those systems disabled to pass smog. check engine lights make for a hard time with the smog nazis.

foff667 · 03-22-2006, 09:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by irish trash

any idea if their software will allow you to edit other codes like ABS sensors or A/C codes?

the reason i ask is for those of us that have removed the ABS system and A/C (as well as other components) and need those systems disabled to pass smog. check engine lights make for a hard time with the smog nazis.

abs is part of the bcm(body control module) rather then the pcm so currently no you wont be able to fiddle with the abs settings...as far as teh a/c codes pull up whats setting & I can tell you if it will or not.

irish trash · 03-22-2006, 01:53 PM

good deal, i'll get those codes for you in the next few days.

developed · 03-22-2006, 02:01 PM

I have a '97 S10, 2.2L. I see where the standard VCM Suite is for 97-00 S-10 (beta). I was trying to figure out (via credit explanation) if I could just tune my vehicle once ar mant time as I want or any other cars. I thought it said once you insert Single Vehicle and Year/Model credits you can use it on any '97 S-10 2.2 - is this correct?

I think I'll wait until the tuner is out of beta. Any idea when that'll be?

thnx

developed · 03-22-2006, 02:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wayfastwhitey

That was my question. Since the same motor was in from 95-97 and then there were the head revisions in the newer models. But I'm not sure about significant changes to the PCM. I've got a question in to HP Tuners about that, but haven't heard back from them yet.

Didn't all vehicle manufacturers switch to OBD II in 1996?

I know a there a few different models that switched in '95 (but not many). I don't believe that a '95 S-10 was OBD II.

It would seem llike if it works for '97, it should also work for '96 - unless there's other "electronic" type changes I'm not aware of.

foff667 · 03-22-2006, 02:16 PM

vin locked means you can tune your vin as many times as you want...the year license you could tune your 97 and as many other 97's as you can find. But with the credit upgrade scheme even if you vin lock you'll be able to upgrade to the year license at a later time without fear of having to keep vin locking vehicles its a great system that is very flexible & allows the user to make a decision if they just want to work on their own vehicle or 100 knowing they'll at least get back 75% on their investment. When a version is in beta the people testing the product give feedback on its developement ie what they like, dont like & what they'd like to see. I've been a beta tester for almost a year now and I love knowing I had something to do with the ongoing development of a product.

foff667 · 03-22-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by developed

Didn't all vehicle manufacturers switch to OBD II in 1996?

I know a there a few different models that switched in '95 (but not many). I don't believe that a '95 S-10 was OBD II.

It would seem llike if it works for '97, it should also work for '96 - unless there's other "electronic" type changes I'm not aware of.

correct but the early computers usually suck balls...for instance the 96/97 LT1 cars which are obd2 use a computer with 256kb of memory and let me tell you they are a pita to work on...some 97 vette ls1's used a derivitive of the lt1 pcm which is why some are not supported by hptuners...the rest of the 97-98 pcms are like the redheaded stepchild of ls1 tuning and are very limited...the 99+ are very similar on the inside/outside but there were many code changes internally(most for the better) so from year to year pcms are different so to say just because the 96/97 pcms in an s-10 is the same doesnt mean much when it comes to tuning software. But hey ya never know.

MadJack · 03-22-2006, 02:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by developed

Didn't all vehicle manufacturers switch to OBD II in 1996?

I know a there a few different models that switched in '95 (but not many). I don't believe that a '95 S-10 was OBD II.

It would seem llike if it works for '97, it should also work for '96 - unless there's other "electronic" type changes I'm not aware of.

If they were anything like the Cavaliers/Sunfires w/ the 2.2L, the '95s were OBD I, the '96s were OBD II, but a one year software set-up, all the hardware was the same as the '97. The '97 + had improved software. If you have a '96, you can swap out a '97 PCM and tune with the HPT.

developed · 03-22-2006, 02:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by foff667

When a version is in beta the people testing the product give feedback on its developement ie what they like, dont like & what they'd like to see. I've been a beta tester for almost a year now and I love knowing I had something to do with the ongoing development of a product.

HAHAHA - but "you" know what your doing - I don't. I would wait until bugs are worked out - believe me, I'd find the bugs and wonder WTF is goin' on.

foff667 · 03-22-2006, 02:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MadJack

If they were anything like the Cavaliers/Sunfires w/ the 2.2L, the '95s were OBD I, the '96s were OBD II, but a one year software set-up, all the hardware was the same as the '97. The '97 + had improved software. If you have a '96, you can swap out a '97 PCM and tune with the HPT.

thats how 96/97 v6 fbodies are...alot of the 96 guys end up swapping to the 97 pcm since its just a simple plug & play procedure. may or may not be the case but worth looking into.

foff667 · 03-22-2006, 02:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by developed

HAHAHA - but "you" know what your doing - I don't. I would wait until bugs are worked out - believe me, I'd find the bugs and wonder WTF is goin' on.

everyone starts somewhere :shrug:

jrossty · 03-31-2006, 11:15 AM

I am definitely interested in this...

foff667 · 03-31-2006, 11:44 AM

if you decide to purchase & need any help let me know, I'll help you as much as I can.

cb_s10 · 09-28-2008, 02:56 PM

looks like i found something i can play with next on my truck

Chris0nllyn · 09-28-2008, 03:31 PM

lol, its been out awhile now

Atleast you're searching

echardcore · 09-28-2008, 03:34 PM

Y doesn't anyone ever make these for 2001?

cs xtreme · 09-29-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by echardcore

Y doesn't anyone ever make these for 2001?

pretty sure it covers 97-03

andyswmr714 · 11-28-2008, 02:55 AM

has anyone bought this software/ kit for the s-10 in stl?
I need a tune baaaad... i am running excessively rich with my turb kit

03-17-2006, 10:25 PM	#1
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta http://www.hptuners.com/order.php
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03-17-2006, 10:33 PM	#2
wayfastwhitey Ross Racing Engines Age: 33 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,380 Location: Aggieland, College Station, Tx User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta about damn time!...lists the 97, with then engines that year going from 95-97. Anyone know if they had a significant change to the PCM in 97 that would make this not compatible with the two years prior?
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03-20-2006, 09:22 AM	#3
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta I would say if you have a question on why they dont support & when/if they will post up in that specific section of the forum...they had a poll a few months ago & those were the most requested so they started work on them www.hptuners.com but voicing your opinions on what you'd like to see is probably the best way to get what you want.
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03-20-2006, 09:28 AM	#4
ThorRacing01 Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,509 Location: newport news,va User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta what is this thing and what can you do with it? it looks way over my head
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03-20-2006, 11:18 AM	#5
NateZQ8 WHAAAh? Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,392 Location: IOWA, land of Corn and Pork User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Yeah.........exactly..........is it a program that we can hook up to our trucks or what is it and what can it do for us?
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03-20-2006, 12:46 PM	#6
wayfastwhitey Ross Racing Engines Age: 33 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,380 Location: Aggieland, College Station, Tx User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta It's the necessary hardware and software to allow editing of the PCM. Allows you to change things like injector pulse, timing curve, all the stuff you need to adjust when installing a big cam or boost. Cam profiles have been limited with the 2.2 because there was no way to edit the timing with the stock PCM. Now, you can have a custom cam ground and then tune it. I'm sure that the aftermarket will boom because of this as well.
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03-20-2006, 03:45 PM	#7
NateZQ8 WHAAAh? Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,392 Location: IOWA, land of Corn and Pork User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta So if you have stock internals it really means nothing to you?
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03-20-2006, 04:19 PM	#8
wayfastwhitey Ross Racing Engines Age: 33 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,380 Location: Aggieland, College Station, Tx User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta With just a stock motor, I'm sure you can use it to find some power through fuel and timing. It will allow you to tune each cylinder individually. Would it be worth the $500 on a stock motor? Probably not, but then that's just a guess as this is a new product with not much test data available.
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03-20-2006, 10:47 PM	#9
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta its a pcm editor & data logger so you can gather information about your computer & tune it to your needs rather then just some canned tune...fuel, spark, TM, shift points, tire size changes you name it it can do it and do it well they support hundreds of year/models of cars/trucks/suv's and are expanding to offer tuning support to fords/chryslers so no matter what you buy they'll probably support it.
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03-20-2006, 10:50 PM	#10
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by NateZQ8 So if you have stock internals it really means nothing to you? furthest thing from the truth...any vehicle can benefit from a good tune not only for full throttle but part throttle performance.
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03-21-2006, 02:39 AM	#11
wayfastwhitey Ross Racing Engines Age: 33 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,380 Location: Aggieland, College Station, Tx User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by foff667 furthest thing from the truth...any vehicle can benefit from a good tune not only for full throttle but part throttle performance. Agreed. There is always power to be found from the proper tune. Stock guys can now have a little more power while guys wanting to build their 2.2 are now no longer limited to parts that will work with the stock PCM, aftermarket PCM's that cost thousands, or the required fabrication skills and knowledge to turn it into a carbed motor and adjustable timing. This is really going to open up a lot of possibilities for the little 4-banger as well as the potential for a good aftermarket.
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03-21-2006, 06:07 PM	#12
LoRollinLS Chivalay Mane Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,008 Location: BFE South User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta awesome, bout time huh
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03-21-2006, 06:38 PM	#13
Purplepimp Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,497 Location: Sacramento♦state ♂ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta 97!?! should they work for 96? That would be hella nice since I am planning on building up the 2.2 in my truck as soon as I pull in out and put the fresh one in.
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03-21-2006, 07:44 PM	#14
wayfastwhitey Ross Racing Engines Age: 33 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,380 Location: Aggieland, College Station, Tx User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by Purplepimp 97!?! should they work for 96? That would be hella nice since I am planning on building up the 2.2 in my truck as soon as I pull in out and put the fresh one in. That was my question. Since the same motor was in from 95-97 and then there were the head revisions in the newer models. But I'm not sure about significant changes to the PCM. I've got a question in to HP Tuners about that, but haven't heard back from them yet.
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03-21-2006, 08:33 PM	#15
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by wayfastwhitey That was my question. Since the same motor was in from 95-97 and then there were the head revisions in the newer models. But I'm not sure about significant changes to the PCM. I've got a question in to HP Tuners about that, but haven't heard back from them yet. emailing sales at hptuners dot com is the best way to get your point across...the more emails they get from similar situations it seems the better they listen if theres no market for something its hard to justify spending time/money on coding/research.
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03-22-2006, 05:27 AM	#16
irish trash Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,261 Location: redondo beach User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta any idea if their software will allow you to edit other codes like ABS sensors or A/C codes? the reason i ask is for those of us that have removed the ABS system and A/C (as well as other components) and need those systems disabled to pass smog. check engine lights make for a hard time with the smog nazis.
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03-22-2006, 09:41 AM	#17
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by irish trash any idea if their software will allow you to edit other codes like ABS sensors or A/C codes? the reason i ask is for those of us that have removed the ABS system and A/C (as well as other components) and need those systems disabled to pass smog. check engine lights make for a hard time with the smog nazis. abs is part of the bcm(body control module) rather then the pcm so currently no you wont be able to fiddle with the abs settings...as far as teh a/c codes pull up whats setting & I can tell you if it will or not.
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03-22-2006, 01:53 PM	#18
irish trash Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,261 Location: redondo beach User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta good deal, i'll get those codes for you in the next few days.
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03-22-2006, 02:01 PM	#19
developed ol' bodybuilder Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 626 Location: Oregon User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta I have a '97 S10, 2.2L. I see where the standard VCM Suite is for 97-00 S-10 (beta). I was trying to figure out (via credit explanation) if I could just tune my vehicle once ar mant time as I want or any other cars. I thought it said once you insert Single Vehicle and Year/Model credits you can use it on any '97 S-10 2.2 - is this correct? I think I'll wait until the tuner is out of beta. Any idea when that'll be? thnx
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03-22-2006, 02:12 PM	#20
developed ol' bodybuilder Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 626 Location: Oregon User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by wayfastwhitey That was my question. Since the same motor was in from 95-97 and then there were the head revisions in the newer models. But I'm not sure about significant changes to the PCM. I've got a question in to HP Tuners about that, but haven't heard back from them yet. Didn't all vehicle manufacturers switch to OBD II in 1996? I know a there a few different models that switched in '95 (but not many). I don't believe that a '95 S-10 was OBD II. It would seem llike if it works for '97, it should also work for '96 - unless there's other "electronic" type changes I'm not aware of.
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03-22-2006, 02:16 PM	#21
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta vin locked means you can tune your vin as many times as you want...the year license you could tune your 97 and as many other 97's as you can find. But with the credit upgrade scheme even if you vin lock you'll be able to upgrade to the year license at a later time without fear of having to keep vin locking vehicles its a great system that is very flexible & allows the user to make a decision if they just want to work on their own vehicle or 100 knowing they'll at least get back 75% on their investment. When a version is in beta the people testing the product give feedback on its developement ie what they like, dont like & what they'd like to see. I've been a beta tester for almost a year now and I love knowing I had something to do with the ongoing development of a product.
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03-22-2006, 02:20 PM	#22
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by developed Didn't all vehicle manufacturers switch to OBD II in 1996? I know a there a few different models that switched in '95 (but not many). I don't believe that a '95 S-10 was OBD II. It would seem llike if it works for '97, it should also work for '96 - unless there's other "electronic" type changes I'm not aware of. correct but the early computers usually suck balls...for instance the 96/97 LT1 cars which are obd2 use a computer with 256kb of memory and let me tell you they are a pita to work on...some 97 vette ls1's used a derivitive of the lt1 pcm which is why some are not supported by hptuners...the rest of the 97-98 pcms are like the redheaded stepchild of ls1 tuning and are very limited...the 99+ are very similar on the inside/outside but there were many code changes internally(most for the better) so from year to year pcms are different so to say just because the 96/97 pcms in an s-10 is the same doesnt mean much when it comes to tuning software. But hey ya never know.
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03-22-2006, 02:24 PM	#23
MadJack Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Centrial Florida User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by developed Didn't all vehicle manufacturers switch to OBD II in 1996? I know a there a few different models that switched in '95 (but not many). I don't believe that a '95 S-10 was OBD II. It would seem llike if it works for '97, it should also work for '96 - unless there's other "electronic" type changes I'm not aware of. If they were anything like the Cavaliers/Sunfires w/ the 2.2L, the '95s were OBD I, the '96s were OBD II, but a one year software set-up, all the hardware was the same as the '97. The '97 + had improved software. If you have a '96, you can swap out a '97 PCM and tune with the HPT.
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03-22-2006, 02:28 PM	#24
developed ol' bodybuilder Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 626 Location: Oregon User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by foff667 When a version is in beta the people testing the product give feedback on its developement ie what they like, dont like & what they'd like to see. I've been a beta tester for almost a year now and I love knowing I had something to do with the ongoing development of a product. HAHAHA - but "you" know what your doing - I don't. I would wait until bugs are worked out - believe me, I'd find the bugs and wonder WTF is goin' on.
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03-22-2006, 02:33 PM	#25
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by MadJack If they were anything like the Cavaliers/Sunfires w/ the 2.2L, the '95s were OBD I, the '96s were OBD II, but a one year software set-up, all the hardware was the same as the '97. The '97 + had improved software. If you have a '96, you can swap out a '97 PCM and tune with the HPT. thats how 96/97 v6 fbodies are...alot of the 96 guys end up swapping to the 97 pcm since its just a simple plug & play procedure. may or may not be the case but worth looking into.
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03-22-2006, 02:36 PM	#26
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by developed HAHAHA - but "you" know what your doing - I don't. I would wait until bugs are worked out - believe me, I'd find the bugs and wonder WTF is goin' on. everyone starts somewhere :shrug:
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03-31-2006, 11:15 AM	#27
jrossty Rhasta the Lobstah Age: 30 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 281 Location: Kenton, OH User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta I am definitely interested in this...
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03-31-2006, 11:44 AM	#28
foff667 a blown member dsi racing founder Age: 33 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 67 Location: Trenton NJ User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta if you decide to purchase & need any help let me know, I'll help you as much as I can.
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09-28-2008, 02:56 PM	#29
cb_s10 Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 7 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta looks like i found something i can play with next on my truck
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09-28-2008, 03:31 PM	#30
Chris0nllyn tu-tu guru Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,715 Location: Southern MD User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta lol, its been out awhile now Atleast you're searching
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09-28-2008, 03:34 PM	#31
echardcore Registered User Age: 29 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 86 Location: Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Y doesn't anyone ever make these for 2001?
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09-29-2008, 11:25 PM	#32
cs xtreme boosted 2.2L Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,437 Location: Colorado Springs User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta Quote: Originally Posted by echardcore Y doesn't anyone ever make these for 2001? pretty sure it covers 97-03
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11-28-2008, 02:55 AM	#33
andyswmr714 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 257 Location: chesterhood User is: OffLine	Re: HPtuners 97-00 2.2's available in beta has anyone bought this software/ kit for the s-10 in stl? I need a tune baaaad... i am running excessively rich with my turb kit
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