2.2 Growing pains

saint.faustus · 03-17-2009, 02:57 PM

i have a 2000 flexfuel, i can still use a 98+ head correct? or no?

Chris0nllyn · 03-17-2009, 04:03 PM

saint.faustus · 03-17-2009, 04:40 PM

cooool

D1LL0N · 04-07-2009, 08:07 PM

is there any way to make a 1999-2003 engine work in a 1995 both 2.2 sonoma thx don

Sonomasx · 04-26-2009, 04:03 PM

Cool- great infor, thanks. Looks like '99 is the schizzle...................

S10SittnonDUBS · 05-11-2009, 11:33 AM

Just for giggles I have a 03 sunfire motor in my truck. Novices DO NOT ATTEMPT!!! It is a PAIN!

tg900 · 05-11-2009, 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by S10SittnonDUBS

Just for giggles I have a 03 sunfire motor in my truck. Novices DO NOT ATTEMPT!!! It is a PAIN!

what was the pain? no motor mount holes? or was it the new 2.2 that never came in the s10

KILLERCL0WNFISH · 05-11-2009, 03:45 PM

ok so samn problem as the guy in the other page i bought a 96 s10 came with a 98s10 motor ... will i have to take every thang off the 96 put on the 98 motor to get it to work and what all will i have to swop ?heads intake etc?

Dvst8r · 05-11-2009, 10:31 PM

He is asking since the wiring harness in his truck is for a 96 could he take a 98 motor and put the 96 head, intake, and fuel delivery system on the 98 block and put it in the truck to still use the 96 wiring harness and computer? Or will the newer block effect his cluster gauges?

S10SittnonDUBS · 05-12-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by tg900

what was the pain? no motor mount holes? or was it the new 2.2 that never came in the s10

Both. Truck accesories had to be used, truck intake manifold, truck exhaust manifold, and the motor mounts had to be tapped. Then GM decided to put a hole for some EGR accessory on the head that we had to build a plate to cover. Instead of a fairly simple swap, it was a P.I.T.A. But I got a 50k mile motor for 650 instead of all the truck blocks I could find that had over 100k on them for the same price. Just for questions since I have the Cav/Sunfire motor now does it make it any easier to find parts to build these motors for boost/n20?

KILLERCL0WNFISH · 05-12-2009, 01:26 PM

cs xtreme · 05-12-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by KILLERCL0WNFISH

bump

answers are in this thread
it talks about all the differences on page one.

Chris0nllyn · 05-12-2009, 05:09 PM

some guy did it but had problems....you'll need a 98 head atleast....the combustion chamber is different in 98....so are the pistons.....and crank

its all on page one

Dvst8r · 05-12-2009, 05:33 PM

He has a whole 96 motor, head, intake, everything. Also has a whole 98 motor, head, intake, everything. Needs to know what has to be done to put the 98 motor in a 96 truck while still using the 96 computer, wiring harness. I'm thinking intake, fuel delivery but I don't know for sure. It's kinda hard to tell from page one what will have to be done.

Chris0nllyn · 05-12-2009, 11:51 PM

the 98 computer is setup for different ignitions...thats why the crank is different...itll be such a pain to put a 98 motor in a 96 truck

KILLERCL0WNFISH · 05-13-2009, 02:45 AM

so it will be easyer to get a 98 wire harness and rewire the 96 s10 ... or just find a 96 motor

Chris0nllyn · 05-13-2009, 08:11 AM

it'd be easier to just get a 96-97 motor

Kates_96 · 05-30-2009, 04:15 PM

Well, thanks for adding the info on here, it was certainly interesting - putting it mildly.

Since you seem to have a lot of info on the 2.2 I thought I might as you a question that I've been trying to find for who knows how long :)

I have a 96 s10, 2.2l, 5-speed manual, etc. And I was wondering if you knew of a Distributor-type ignition that'd be compatible with the 96's Crank-sensing ignition setup? If so, would you happen to know which distributor that could fit it? And finally, if you don't know of any stock parts that can be used, I was wondering if you know of any aftermarket setup that'll provided the same results?

Any info you could provide on this topic would be very much appreciated. thank you :)

Chris0nllyn · 06-01-2009, 02:36 AM

theres a spot where a distributor could potentially go, but why?

estin · 06-14-2009, 04:24 PM

what about a mega squirt ecu ? then you could run whatever engine you could find,on the cheap ?and utilize GM censors for a "bolt in" affair on a stock whatever year engine,or you could run an EDIS system (ford pulley mount crank trigger/coil pack)and do a custom FI setup with UNLIMITED BOOST POTENTIAL !!!.Then alls that would be necessary is a laptop/wide band o2 for tuning.

mizder · 11-23-2009, 02:39 PM

will a 2.2 from a 97 cavalier work in a 95 gmc sonoma?

GmcNoma95 · 11-23-2009, 02:41 PM

If you have a side mounted engine in the cavalier or sunfire, highly unlikely. Transmission wouldnt mount/setup up correctly!

**deathphoenix99** · 11-23-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mizder

will a 2.2 from a 97 cavalier work in a 95 gmc sonoma?

The engines are virtually the same, there's a freeze plug that has to be knocked out on the cavy engine and a few other minor details. If you search the forum, there are plenty of people running cavy motors in their s10. But since you are also changing years from 97-95, there will be extra sensors on the 97 that aren't on the 95.

Crabby · 01-30-2010, 01:21 PM

Chris0nllyn i have a 97 2.2, 5spd, with 292 thousand k on it, from what I understand I woluld need if i wanted to swap in a 98 motor and trans, i would need the computer and harness to go along with it? or can I just swap motors and use the 97 computer with the 98 motor>? im kinda new any help would be appreciated.
thanks
-Crabby

03-17-2009, 02:57 PM	#51
saint.faustus Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 67 Location: Austin User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains i have a 2000 flexfuel, i can still use a 98+ head correct? or no?
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03-17-2009, 04:03 PM	#52
Chris0nllyn tu-tu guru Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,745 Location: Southern MD User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains yea
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03-17-2009, 04:40 PM	#53
saint.faustus Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 67 Location: Austin User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains cooool
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04-07-2009, 08:07 PM	#54
D1LL0N Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains is there any way to make a 1999-2003 engine work in a 1995 both 2.2 sonoma thx don
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04-26-2009, 04:03 PM	#55
Sonomasx Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 35 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains Cool- great infor, thanks. Looks like '99 is the schizzle...................
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05-11-2009, 11:33 AM	#56
S10SittnonDUBS Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 342 Location: Cloud 9 User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains Just for giggles I have a 03 sunfire motor in my truck. Novices DO NOT ATTEMPT!!! It is a PAIN!
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05-11-2009, 01:25 PM	#57
tg900 NOT AN S10 Age: 22 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 993 Location: PA User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains Quote: Originally Posted by S10SittnonDUBS Just for giggles I have a 03 sunfire motor in my truck. Novices DO NOT ATTEMPT!!! It is a PAIN! what was the pain? no motor mount holes? or was it the new 2.2 that never came in the s10
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05-11-2009, 03:45 PM	#58
KILLERCL0WNFISH Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 112 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains ok so samn problem as the guy in the other page i bought a 96 s10 came with a 98s10 motor ... will i have to take every thang off the 96 put on the 98 motor to get it to work and what all will i have to swop ?heads intake etc?
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05-11-2009, 10:31 PM	#59
Dvst8r Get some Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,792 Location: Repping Louisville User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains He is asking since the wiring harness in his truck is for a 96 could he take a 98 motor and put the 96 head, intake, and fuel delivery system on the 98 block and put it in the truck to still use the 96 wiring harness and computer? Or will the newer block effect his cluster gauges?
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05-12-2009, 12:18 AM	#60
S10SittnonDUBS Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 342 Location: Cloud 9 User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains Quote: Originally Posted by tg900 what was the pain? no motor mount holes? or was it the new 2.2 that never came in the s10 Both. Truck accesories had to be used, truck intake manifold, truck exhaust manifold, and the motor mounts had to be tapped. Then GM decided to put a hole for some EGR accessory on the head that we had to build a plate to cover. Instead of a fairly simple swap, it was a P.I.T.A. But I got a 50k mile motor for 650 instead of all the truck blocks I could find that had over 100k on them for the same price. Just for questions since I have the Cav/Sunfire motor now does it make it any easier to find parts to build these motors for boost/n20? Last edited by S10SittnonDUBS : 05-12-2009 at 12:21 AM.
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KILLERCL0WNFISH Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 112 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains bump
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05-12-2009, 02:43 PM	#62
cs xtreme boosted 2.2L Age: 27 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,511 Location: Colorado Springs User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains Quote: Originally Posted by KILLERCL0WNFISH bump answers are in this thread it talks about all the differences on page one.
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05-12-2009, 05:09 PM	#63
Chris0nllyn tu-tu guru Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,745 Location: Southern MD User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains some guy did it but had problems....you'll need a 98 head atleast....the combustion chamber is different in 98....so are the pistons.....and crank its all on page one Last edited by Chris0nllyn : 05-12-2009 at 05:11 PM.
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05-12-2009, 05:33 PM	#64
Dvst8r Get some Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,792 Location: Repping Louisville User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains He has a whole 96 motor, head, intake, everything. Also has a whole 98 motor, head, intake, everything. Needs to know what has to be done to put the 98 motor in a 96 truck while still using the 96 computer, wiring harness. I'm thinking intake, fuel delivery but I don't know for sure. It's kinda hard to tell from page one what will have to be done.
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05-12-2009, 11:51 PM	#65
Chris0nllyn tu-tu guru Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,745 Location: Southern MD User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains the 98 computer is setup for different ignitions...thats why the crank is different...itll be such a pain to put a 98 motor in a 96 truck
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05-13-2009, 02:45 AM	#66
KILLERCL0WNFISH Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 112 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains so it will be easyer to get a 98 wire harness and rewire the 96 s10 ... or just find a 96 motor
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05-13-2009, 08:11 AM	#67
Chris0nllyn tu-tu guru Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,745 Location: Southern MD User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains it'd be easier to just get a 96-97 motor
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05-30-2009, 04:15 PM	#68
Kates_96 Kate's_96 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 7 Location: Cincinnati, OH User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains Well, thanks for adding the info on here, it was certainly interesting - putting it mildly. Since you seem to have a lot of info on the 2.2 I thought I might as you a question that I've been trying to find for who knows how long :) I have a 96 s10, 2.2l, 5-speed manual, etc. And I was wondering if you knew of a Distributor-type ignition that'd be compatible with the 96's Crank-sensing ignition setup? If so, would you happen to know which distributor that could fit it? And finally, if you don't know of any stock parts that can be used, I was wondering if you know of any aftermarket setup that'll provided the same results? Any info you could provide on this topic would be very much appreciated. thank you :)
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06-01-2009, 02:36 AM	#69
Chris0nllyn tu-tu guru Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,745 Location: Southern MD User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains theres a spot where a distributor could potentially go, but why?
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06-14-2009, 04:24 PM	#70
estin Registered User Age: 19 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 163 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains what about a mega squirt ecu ? then you could run whatever engine you could find,on the cheap ?and utilize GM censors for a "bolt in" affair on a stock whatever year engine,or you could run an EDIS system (ford pulley mount crank trigger/coil pack)and do a custom FI setup with UNLIMITED BOOST POTENTIAL !!!.Then alls that would be necessary is a laptop/wide band o2 for tuning.
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11-23-2009, 02:39 PM	#71
mizder Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains will a 2.2 from a 97 cavalier work in a 95 gmc sonoma?
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11-23-2009, 02:41 PM	#72
GmcNoma95 REDFIRE Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 452 Location: Gainesville,VA (703) User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains If you have a side mounted engine in the cavalier or sunfire, highly unlikely. Transmission wouldnt mount/setup up correctly!
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11-23-2009, 05:41 PM	#73
deathphoenix99 Electrical guy Age: 20 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7,761 Location: Flint, MI User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains Quote: Originally Posted by mizder will a 2.2 from a 97 cavalier work in a 95 gmc sonoma? The engines are virtually the same, there's a freeze plug that has to be knocked out on the cavy engine and a few other minor details. If you search the forum, there are plenty of people running cavy motors in their s10. But since you are also changing years from 97-95, there will be extra sensors on the 97 that aren't on the 95.
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01-30-2010, 01:21 PM	#74
Crabby yea we do em' up here Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2 Location: New Brunswick User is: OffLine	Re: 2.2 Growing pains Chris0nllyn i have a 97 2.2, 5spd, with 292 thousand k on it, from what I understand I woluld need if i wanted to swap in a 98 motor and trans, i would need the computer and harness to go along with it? or can I just swap motors and use the 97 computer with the 98 motor>? im kinda new any help would be appreciated. thanks -Crabby
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