v8 + airbag options

revobreaker · 09-25-2009, 01:01 PM

so i have a 98noma and a 350 thats gonna be going in soon. Id like to put it on bags too but have some questions.

What bags to use first off, is the extra weight gonna cause any issues with what is normally run in the front?

For the rear, what is the best setup? I wont be keeping the stock rear, fabrication isnt really a problem.

Anyone on bags run at the track? Im not talking like every weekend going and beating the shit out of everything, but if I wanna go a couple times a year I dont want to have to worry about breaking stuff. (I dont know if there are any strange physics that will damage bag setups when taking off and whatnot)

am i going in two totally opposite directions with bags and a V8?

thanks

Maverick2664 · 09-25-2009, 08:01 PM

it depends on what engine youre coming from, a v8 isnt -that- much more than a 4.3, but is obviously going to be way more than a 2.2

they say that for trucks with v8s you want a stiffer bag in the front, most (probably all) bags have more than enough weight rating for an s10 with a v8, so that isnt an issue

im running slam ES-72's in the front and slam RS-72's in the rear, they say the ES's have a stiffer sidewall than the RS's do

as for the rear setup, any link type suspension you choose to do will be light years ahead of a leaf setup, they transfer power better, hook better, and theres no axle wrap which means no wheel hop

revobreaker · 09-26-2009, 12:15 AM

its a 2.2 with 4in(?) blocks in the rear, and short springs in the front.

I have been looking on the SD website and i haven notice those bags, so i guess they would have to be special ordered from somewhere.

And I dont know if it would be better to get one of the pre-designed kits, or a universal one.

Maverick2664 · 09-26-2009, 12:33 AM

the es and rs-72's arent special order or anything, theyre just an older model that isnt sold anymore, anything they have now is probably better

cruisinlows10 · 09-30-2009, 01:21 AM

I've had a bagged v8 dime for a couple years now. I dont take it to the track but I have put alot of miles on it going to shows. I have slam re6's up front with shocks and a suicidedoors 3 link with behind/under the axle f9000 sleeves. Ive had no problems with the bags and v8. I have heard many good things about re7s in the front. So thats probably the only thing id change about my setup.

sosolos10 · 09-30-2009, 02:12 AM

I have RE-6s in the front of my 94 s10 with a SBC and they seem to be fine they are the same as a few friends of mine they run RE-6s too with V8s

revobreaker · 09-30-2009, 10:11 AM

Ok so standard slam bags will work, now I just have to decide on what rear kit to go with.....

Thanks again

ls1s10onair · 09-30-2009, 10:15 AM

3 link.............. couldnt be happier with mine.... my ls1 truck actually hooks pretty well with a 3 link, bags, and street tires. As was said above, just about any bag will hold the weight

revobreaker · 10-01-2009, 12:25 PM

I was thinking about the 3 or 5 link, do you have a build thread or anything on your setup

94sdime350 · 10-04-2009, 12:34 AM

Hey guys. My truck was originally a SS truck. Not sure how much of the suspension is stock, but it has 2 drop spindles in front for sure. I think they sway bars are "SS". I hate the ride on my truck (wheel hop mostly). My friend has a 98 2.2 truck. He has not been happy with his bag set up for a while. So I looked at what he had and there were no shocks and think that was most of his problem. He wants to put a 3 4 drop static suspension in. Until I got my truck he wanted to go back to stock. Well long story short he got talked into trading my ss static suspension for his bag set up. Now he has one bad bag up front already, so Ill have to replace that at least. and i figured on getting some drop shocks. I thought I might be have to buy new "heavier" bags up front. But it sounds like you guys are saying they might be ok. But if the only real money investment I have to put in is bags, Id like to have the best ride I can and make that dana hook as much as i can. So I guess my question is which bag is right for me?

94sdime350 · 10-04-2009, 12:46 AM

One more thing I think he has srong arms up front and Id be swapping control arms, so what bags would be "compatable" w that also?

carter · 10-06-2009, 05:52 PM

i didnt have time to read all the posts so i dunno if this has been said.

Bags - go RE7 or 2600 for sure, i had RE6s and it takes like 120psi to lift at all...it sucks.

the rear link will help you reduce wheel hop

the only issue i can think of its that you'll need some tubular upper control arms to clear the headers you'll need for the swap. I personally have headman shorty's, i dunno how long tubes work, this is the only experience i have with v8 and bags.

have fun! bags are fun, and so are v8s so you'll absolutly love your truck after your done. I know first hand that all the work involved it SO worth it...

revobreaker · 10-06-2009, 09:58 PM

Im thinking RE7 all the way around. possibly custom 4 link in rear
Just the tublar uppers right, like these form SD

how those headers working for you? Do you have a build thread?

lee-mill · 10-06-2009, 10:07 PM

RE7 bags own all other bags for the front, they have plenty of lift

carter · 10-06-2009, 10:58 PM

Yea the SD will be yourbest bang for buck esp now that power performance is making the cross shafts for WAY cheaper. I got mine powder coated pink, but I think their trying to get away from the custom colors. They also come with ball joints for a little more. Ill find a link to my thread which also has some info on pcms

They clear theheaders just fine and I think their your only option for going on bags. However I've never tried longtubes Or the camaro manifolds that are supposed to work.

bitchin sonoma · 10-06-2009, 11:12 PM

i have a ls1 and being bagged.

revobreaker · 10-08-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by carter

Yea the SD will be yourbest bang for buck esp now that power performance is making the cross shafts for WAY cheaper. I got mine powder coated pink, but I think their trying to get away from the custom colors. They also come with ball joints for a little more. Ill find a link to my thread which also has some info on pcms

They clear theheaders just fine and I think their your only option for going on bags. However I've never tried longtubes Or the camaro manifolds that are supposed to work.

yeah id like to see what you have going on. Just noticed your from canada, you guys are wild up there

bitchin sonoma: you got build thread? Im a picture whore, I gotta stare at everyones builds to get ideas

carter · 10-08-2009, 12:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by revobreaker

yeah id like to see what you have going on. Just noticed your from canada, you guys are wild up there

bitchin sonoma: you got build thread? Im a picture whore, I gotta stare at everyones builds to get ideas

I'll take pictures once the SD arms are on...i notched the stock arms so i could park it without them hitting the headers :P

09-25-2009, 01:01 PM	#1
revobreaker Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55 Location: SOMD User is: OffLine	v8 + airbag options so i have a 98noma and a 350 thats gonna be going in soon. Id like to put it on bags too but have some questions. What bags to use first off, is the extra weight gonna cause any issues with what is normally run in the front? For the rear, what is the best setup? I wont be keeping the stock rear, fabrication isnt really a problem. Anyone on bags run at the track? Im not talking like every weekend going and beating the shit out of everything, but if I wanna go a couple times a year I dont want to have to worry about breaking stuff. (I dont know if there are any strange physics that will damage bag setups when taking off and whatnot) am i going in two totally opposite directions with bags and a V8? thanks
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09-25-2009, 08:01 PM	#2
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,846 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options it depends on what engine youre coming from, a v8 isnt -that- much more than a 4.3, but is obviously going to be way more than a 2.2 they say that for trucks with v8s you want a stiffer bag in the front, most (probably all) bags have more than enough weight rating for an s10 with a v8, so that isnt an issue im running slam ES-72's in the front and slam RS-72's in the rear, they say the ES's have a stiffer sidewall than the RS's do as for the rear setup, any link type suspension you choose to do will be light years ahead of a leaf setup, they transfer power better, hook better, and theres no axle wrap which means no wheel hop
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09-26-2009, 12:15 AM	#3
revobreaker Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55 Location: SOMD User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options its a 2.2 with 4in(?) blocks in the rear, and short springs in the front. I have been looking on the SD website and i haven notice those bags, so i guess they would have to be special ordered from somewhere. And I dont know if it would be better to get one of the pre-designed kits, or a universal one.
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09-26-2009, 12:33 AM	#4
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,846 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options the es and rs-72's arent special order or anything, theyre just an older model that isnt sold anymore, anything they have now is probably better
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09-30-2009, 01:21 AM	#5
cruisinlows10 square bodies ftw Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,504 Location: virginia User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options I've had a bagged v8 dime for a couple years now. I dont take it to the track but I have put alot of miles on it going to shows. I have slam re6's up front with shocks and a suicidedoors 3 link with behind/under the axle f9000 sleeves. Ive had no problems with the bags and v8. I have heard many good things about re7s in the front. So thats probably the only thing id change about my setup.
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09-30-2009, 02:12 AM	#6
sosolos10 Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 283 Location: Romney WV User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options I have RE-6s in the front of my 94 s10 with a SBC and they seem to be fine they are the same as a few friends of mine they run RE-6s too with V8s
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09-30-2009, 10:11 AM	#7
revobreaker Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55 Location: SOMD User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options Ok so standard slam bags will work, now I just have to decide on what rear kit to go with..... Thanks again
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09-30-2009, 10:15 AM	#8
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,242 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options 3 link.............. couldnt be happier with mine.... my ls1 truck actually hooks pretty well with a 3 link, bags, and street tires. As was said above, just about any bag will hold the weight
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10-01-2009, 12:25 PM	#9
revobreaker Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55 Location: SOMD User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options I was thinking about the 3 or 5 link, do you have a build thread or anything on your setup
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10-04-2009, 12:34 AM	#10
94sdime350 eats "rice" Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 21 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options Hey guys. My truck was originally a SS truck. Not sure how much of the suspension is stock, but it has 2 drop spindles in front for sure. I think they sway bars are "SS". I hate the ride on my truck (wheel hop mostly). My friend has a 98 2.2 truck. He has not been happy with his bag set up for a while. So I looked at what he had and there were no shocks and think that was most of his problem. He wants to put a 3 4 drop static suspension in. Until I got my truck he wanted to go back to stock. Well long story short he got talked into trading my ss static suspension for his bag set up. Now he has one bad bag up front already, so Ill have to replace that at least. and i figured on getting some drop shocks. I thought I might be have to buy new "heavier" bags up front. But it sounds like you guys are saying they might be ok. But if the only real money investment I have to put in is bags, Id like to have the best ride I can and make that dana hook as much as i can. So I guess my question is which bag is right for me?
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10-04-2009, 12:46 AM	#11
94sdime350 eats "rice" Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 21 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options One more thing I think he has srong arms up front and Id be swapping control arms, so what bags would be "compatable" w that also?
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10-06-2009, 05:52 PM	#12
carter Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 232 Location: Calgary User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options i didnt have time to read all the posts so i dunno if this has been said. Bags - go RE7 or 2600 for sure, i had RE6s and it takes like 120psi to lift at all...it sucks. the rear link will help you reduce wheel hop the only issue i can think of its that you'll need some tubular upper control arms to clear the headers you'll need for the swap. I personally have headman shorty's, i dunno how long tubes work, this is the only experience i have with v8 and bags. have fun! bags are fun, and so are v8s so you'll absolutly love your truck after your done. I know first hand that all the work involved it SO worth it...
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10-06-2009, 09:58 PM	#13
revobreaker Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55 Location: SOMD User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options Im thinking RE7 all the way around. possibly custom 4 link in rear Just the tublar uppers right, like these form SD how those headers working for you? Do you have a build thread?
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10-06-2009, 10:07 PM	#14
lee-mill where's my chippy? Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,846 Location: staatsburg, ny User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options RE7 bags own all other bags for the front, they have plenty of lift
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10-06-2009, 10:58 PM	#15
carter Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 232 Location: Calgary User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options Yea the SD will be yourbest bang for buck esp now that power performance is making the cross shafts for WAY cheaper. I got mine powder coated pink, but I think their trying to get away from the custom colors. They also come with ball joints for a little more. Ill find a link to my thread which also has some info on pcms They clear theheaders just fine and I think their your only option for going on bags. However I've never tried longtubes Or the camaro manifolds that are supposed to work.
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10-06-2009, 11:12 PM	#16
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 24 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,543 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options i have a ls1 and being bagged.
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10-08-2009, 10:03 AM	#17
revobreaker Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55 Location: SOMD User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options Quote: Originally Posted by carter Yea the SD will be yourbest bang for buck esp now that power performance is making the cross shafts for WAY cheaper. I got mine powder coated pink, but I think their trying to get away from the custom colors. They also come with ball joints for a little more. Ill find a link to my thread which also has some info on pcms They clear theheaders just fine and I think their your only option for going on bags. However I've never tried longtubes Or the camaro manifolds that are supposed to work. yeah id like to see what you have going on. Just noticed your from canada, you guys are wild up there bitchin sonoma: you got build thread? Im a picture whore, I gotta stare at everyones builds to get ideas
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10-08-2009, 12:45 PM	#18
carter Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 232 Location: Calgary User is: OffLine	Re: v8 + airbag options Quote: Originally Posted by revobreaker yeah id like to see what you have going on. Just noticed your from canada, you guys are wild up there bitchin sonoma: you got build thread? Im a picture whore, I gotta stare at everyones builds to get ideas I'll take pictures once the SD arms are on...i notched the stock arms so i could park it without them hitting the headers :P
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