Swapping? Heres A List Of Parts And Answered Questions!

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im doing a 350 carb / 700r4 swap into a 86 2wd reg cab, just wondering if its worth it to make the column shifter work, or go for floor mount shifter ?, i also want to mount a fuel cell in the box, over the rear axle to help traction curious if theres kits or anything out there (fuel cell, fuel pump, etc)

[slammed94noma]

i have a 2.2 and im doing a 5.7 swap and i think i have everything priced out(bought) except a shorter driveshaft where can i get one?

[SuperSS27]

Quote: Originally Posted by slammed94noma

i have a 2.2 and im doing a 5.7 swap and i think i have everything priced out(bought) except a shorter driveshaft where can i get one?

Just send it to a machine shop and have it shortened how ever you want.

[elburrito]

Mine is a 92, 700r4, np233 electroshift tcase.
I am trying to think what to do, I doubt if the cpi computer will run anything else and I don't want to have to use up my limited wiring skills trying to figure it all out, so I am thinking about maybe putting in a carbed 350 4 bolt (I have a 94 crate motor avail.) and ditching all of the electrocrap in favor of a basic setup and old skool guages.
Does my 700 have any hookups to the computer/s? Does the tcase? Okay, I'll go outside and look.
Also will the fuel pump priming circuit still work?
I guess I need to go digging around in my engine bay.
Also, anyone ever put pusher fans in front of the condenser/radiator? does it work as well as pullers or pulley fan?

Damn, there are alot of questions, guess I'll be searching the thread alot.

[socalchevys10]

http://www.v8s10s.com

[elburrito]

I just looked at the JTR site and saw they have swap stuff for volvo 2xx series... thats my other car.... maybe I'll ahvea family of engine swaps!!!

Quote: Originally Posted by elburrito

Mine is a 92, 700r4, np233 electroshift tcase.
I am trying to think what to do, I doubt if the cpi computer will run anything else and I don't want to have to use up my limited wiring skills trying to figure it all out, so I am thinking about maybe putting in a carbed 350 4 bolt (I have a 94 crate motor avail.) and ditching all of the electrocrap in favor of a basic setup and old skool guages.
Does my 700 have any hookups to the computer/s? Does the tcase? Okay, I'll go outside and look.
Also will the fuel pump priming circuit still work?
I guess I need to go digging around in my engine bay.
Also, anyone ever put pusher fans in front of the condenser/radiator? does it work as well as pullers or pulley fan?

Damn, there are alot of questions, guess I'll be searching the thread alot.

[kra-z-legs]

hey i have a 98 s-10 and i am swaping out the 4.3 for a carberated 350 and i was wonderin if any one could answer some questions i have? any info would be graetly appriciated thanks

[kra-z-legs]

nvm mind the guy miss informed me the s10 has a 2.2 that im swapping out im not sure if that makes a difference but just so you know

[kra-z-legs]

hey i was wonderin what would be the best tranny to bolt up to a 350 for my 98 s10 im doing

[K-Man]

Quote: Originally Posted by kra-z-legs

hey i was wonderin what would be the best tranny to bolt up to a 350 for my 98 s10 im doing

If you're going with a carb setup instead of fuel injected, go with a 700R4. Best fuel economy (4speed+overdrive) and first gear is pretty low.

[hillr1]

I have a 96 S10 with the 4.3 Vortec,Im going to swap in a very low milage 88 350 TBI from Silverado. Anyway, I think its Heddman headers that has come out
with some shorty headers to work with the Advance Adapters V8 Swap mounts,but what I would like to know is will these headers bolt up to the existing 4.3 exhaust or will it have to be a custom exhaust from the headers back or with the new headers,can you use a full size truck cat back kit? hmmmmmm

[Kaosblazer2005]

I Have a a 93 balzer with a 4.3 Cpi vortec. Now iam kinda new at this since this is the first engine iam swapping. This theard really helped me out but i would like to know if i could use the same comp on a 350 fuel injected. i dont think i can but iam not sure?

[derekjo19]

Quote: Originally Posted by Beeker

Ok Boys and Girls, I know a lot of you have questions on doing a swap out of your poor 4 bangers or mere 4.3s to run with the pride of having a V8. First Id like to Say, YES, it can be done. Here is some Common known engines that will fit.

305
327
350
400

Now I know you can bore out and everything, but anything it that range will fit with no modification to the firewall. 427s and 454s, CAN be done, but involves more serious firewall work, and is only recommended if you’re really into it. Keep in mind; ANYTHING is possible with Time, Money, and a Welder

-----------------------------2.2 L EFI>>>>>> 350 V8 EFI------------------
Now Ill start off with you 2.2 guys, since your struggling for power the most. First of all, the swap of a 2.2 requires a lot of time and patience. To make this easier, I’m doing a fuel-injected engine to a fuel-injected engine. Meaning there’s no need for gas tank modifications. If you go from carbureted to EFI, or vice versa then you need a new Gas tank unit for the appropriate method.

Ok, now lets start.

THESE PARTS *NEED* TO BE REMOVED-

Engine
Tranny
Radiator
Harness
Computer

THESE PARTS STAY-

Master Brake cylinder
AC/Heater boxes

THESE PARTS WILL BE *NEEDED* -

350 Engine (COMPLETE - IE Alternator, Intake, Fuel Injection unit, ect)
Engine mount adaptors (See links at bottom of thread)
Headers (See links at bottom of thread)
Tranny
Computer
Harness
Radiator
Electric FANS

*** Note, when buying parts, keep in mind what engine you have ect, make sure that your harness will work with the engine, the computer is for a Standard/Auto tranny ECT. Make sure everything’s right B4 you dig in****

PARTS THAT CAN BE USED FROM A 2.2, BUT RECOMMEND REPLACING -

Coolant over flow tank
Washer fluid tank
Drive shaft (will need to be modified if you keep it)
Rear End

Ok. That’s the gist of it. Like I said, there’s A LOT of work involved in it for a 2.2>350. If you have it hired out, expect an easy $3k labor bill, On top of the parts costs.

(Remember you can always ebay that 2.2 and parts as well to make a little income back, some people like all Show no go )

INSTALLING -

If you’re doing it yourself, get a manual from the links at the bottom of the page, and read up. Common engine knowledge helps, (IE what’s where for what purpose) oh yeah, and you need to be able to turn a ratchet . Basically, Run the Harness and computer first. It will go in the same way the old one came out. Your probably going to have to have a custom harness made for some things like gauges and stuff. The Manual at the bottom will tell you all about that. But once the harness is run and installed with the Computer, then you should mount the tranny. This is where the drive shaft modification comes in, depending on what tranny you got, it will prob. have to be shortened. I recommend a new drive shaft, even though the old one IS possible, for a couple of reasons. A) I new one will be stronger, and will fit properly. B) It will save you time of replacing the old one down the road if it does break. You have a 350 now, so your going to want to go fast, that skinny pipe isn’t going to hold up to too much. Once the tranny is in, drop in the big bad 350. A lot of people ask about front spring suspension, I went from 4.3 > 350 with no change in height, 2.2 springs maybe weaker (but at least it will look lower) But once the engine is in, plug it all in, Run coolant lines, ect. And put the new Corvette Radiator in, or whatever new radiator you got for the v8 application. May need some custom mountings, but nothing too bad. And then, hook up your electric fans. I HIGHLY recommend dual 14" fans in FRONT of the core support. Mine work WONDERS and with just a little back notching of a plastic easy to get at grill instead of messing with the firewall to get one between the Radiator/engine. Now except for a few odds /n ends, that will pretty much cover it.

---------------------------4.3 TBI to 350 TBI----------------------------------

To make this easier, I’m doing a fuel-injected engine to a fuel-injected engine. Meaning there’s no need for gas tank modifications. If you go from carbureted to EFI, or vice versa then you need a new Gas tank unit for the appropriate method.

Your job is A LOT simpler in most cases. But don’t let that fool you, its still a chore to do.

If you have a 4.3EFI from 87-93 TBI, if you get a V8 from that same time frame that’s TBI, you have little or no wiring issues, everything that plugs into the 4.3, will plug into the 350. When we did mine, we used everything from the 4.3 on the 350, including Throttle Body, Power steering, Water pump, Harness, and computer. But if you have a vortec, and are switching out, you need to pull harness and computer, and you need a complete 350, as most parts wont transfer. So with that in mind, here are the parts lists -

THESE PARTS *NEED* TO BE REMOVED-

Engine.
(If 94+ vortec to any other 350, Harness and Computer)

THESE PARTS STAY-

Master Brake cylinder
AC/Heater boxes
Tranny
Drive train
Radiator (pull it to remove/install the engines though)

PARTS that will be *NEEDED* -

Engine
Engine mounts (See links at bottom of thread)
Headers (See links at bottom of thread)
Electric fans
Harness and computer (if 94+ swap)
***NOTE, when purchasing harness/computer or having a harness made, make SURE it’s for the proper Tranny and dash setup!!! Hate to plug it in, and not have it work!!! ****

Basically, its the same install path as the 2.2, get your harness in, and computer, install the new engine mounts, then drop the engine in, plug it in, Install headers. Put rad. Back in. once again, I recommend the fans in front of the Core support. Get in and test it out. ect.

****For Both Installations- if you want the fan in FRONT of the V8, and behind the core support, you need to shorten the drive shaft, scoot the tranny back, pound some room on the firewall for engine tabs, and Distributor Clearance, and slide it all back on the Engine mount adaptors. Keep in mind, that’s makes extremely hard to do menial tasks/tune ups, such as Replace Spark plugs, install new Wires, and Run exhaust. ****

Now this was just a ROUGH sketch of a swap, and it answers most questions, with a few recommendations, here are the links for the manuals, and parts -

JTR - lots of people use these guys

Advance adaptors, will have all your answers here too

Any MORE questions, post them in here, We'll be glad to help, plus this will clear out the clutter in the V8 forum, about everyone asking about swaps

Thanks guys, and many happy cylinders!

OK... I WANNA DO 2.2 TO 4.3???? SO WAT DO I NEED OR CAN I KEEP OR PROBLEMS I MAY RUN INTO???

[s10blazerman4x4]

91 4.3 leaking a quart a month due to rear main goin out in my blazer.Also the valve seals are bad.Have access to a 1989 5.7 350 which only needs a head gasket.One replaced the other went bad.So far this is what i have learned from reading through this and fill me in on some of my questions.

My wiring will work with that motor as it is T.B.I. I will need new injectors,motor mounts,e-fans or could i go with stock fan.Tranny will bolt right up.Its a 700R4.The oil pan over at JTR for 205 bucks is that one good to go right on the motor or do i need to go elsewhere?Looked at the mounts on of the links not sure if there what i need.If someone has a link for the 4.3 to v8 mounts let me know.Also can i use Hedman shorty headers for the new motor or do i need to go looking elsewhere.With that oil pan will i need a new pickup tube and pump?I would like to keep the A.C. as i just retrofitted it and it is so dang cold inside now.As far as sensors i think i can keep everything else.The only thing i am not a 100 percent on is the Prom chip.Will any chip out of 350 computer in the jyd work or do i need to get a JET chip or something like that?Also this motor is like 200 feet away from me and my pap will be giving it to me.He has no need for it. Is there anything i am missing?Once i get some links for those mounts that I am positive on I am gonna price it but so far I have priced the pan at 205.

[s10blazerman4x4]

I do not know if this link was brought up or not but it is pretty good from what i can tell.
http://www.carshopinc.com/index.php/cPath/28_29

[BRUKLYNPRINCE]

[quote=Beeker]

THANK 4 THE INFO JUS 1 THING WERE DO U RECOMMEND TO GET A V8 FOR MY 98 S10 4.3

BRUKLYNPRINCE@AOL.COM

[ViZ]

great info im learning alot, I have a 92 4.3
Im going with a 350 TBI with my stock tranny

-from what vehicles should I pull the engine from, im thinking that for the price the comaro will be best, is there a difference between that motor and the 1/2 ton truck motor?, im looking for the most power..

- Where can I salvage or buy a posi rear end?

- how do i shorten the axel to run wider wheels and tires?

- And to clarify one more time, use wiring and ecm (computer) from 4.3 with a performance chip from a 1.2 ton?

- Is there room to run dual pipes off the headers

-Will i benefit from a shift kit for the stock tranny

ok that is all
sorry if any of this is repeats, after reading so many pages its all a blur, thanks for your help everyone!!!!

[s10blazerman4x4]

http://mattw.dyndns.org/mattw/S10V8/

Here this link is helping me alot and he will email you back.I dont know about the posi and what not just the motor./

[bAcHiAn8]

I have a 2.2l;

if i get a 4.3L tranny, do i have to modify the driveshaft? will it be a perfect swap since it's off of an s-10?

[cloughy44]

ive got a 95 sonoma, ive been reading the forums and what not and have been trying to take in as much knowledge as possible. My sonoma has a 2.2, 5 speed, 2 wheel drive. One of my buddys said he will give me his 327 out of his Land Cruiser. It is a carb set up i was just wondering what mods and info people can help me out with: tranny ( want to keep it manual), drive shaft, rearend, headers, electronic B.S. lol, radiator, and i read some stuff on the guages wont work if the ecm is removed please inform me about that if possible THANKS If someone could E-mail me with this information all help would be great email- ac44a@aol.com OR cloughy44 on AIM
THANKS!

[Trickpony2s]

Ok I posted this in the main forum by accident and did not take the time to read this thread before I did.


My question is....

I have a 95 GMC Sonoma with 4.3 with 280,300 miles on the original motor and trans. I have aquired a '89 Camaro for less than 100$ and has on ly 53,000 original miles on it.

My delema is I need to keep the 4L60 trans in the truck so I di not have to change the spedo cluster out. The Camaro has a 700R4 in it.

I need to know who to contact about getting the ECM either upgraded to work with the motor or to buy a new one, and maybe even a harness.

Any tips that you can give me would be greatly apprieciated.

Thanks y'all

[stoney327chevy]

ive got a 6.0l vortec 366ci out of a 1 ton dually that i want to put in my 98 s-10 ext cab what do i need i still want to use the fuel injection from the 6.0

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! thanx

[fetuss10]

Quote: Originally Posted by stoney327chevy

ive got a 6.0l vortec 366ci out of a 1 ton dually that i want to put in my 98 s-10 ext cab what do i need i still want to use the fuel injection from the 6.0

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! thanx

i imagine this is not gonna be a daily driver or even driven just for looks?

[stoney327chevy]

Quote: Originally Posted by fetuss10

i imagine this is not gonna be a daily driver or even driven just for looks?

no it is gonna be a daily driver but mostly for a saturday night special. it is the same size as any other small block chevy

[super10_64501]

I'm getting ready to buy an LT1 to swap into my 93 which is currently a 2.8 5 speed truck. I have an 89 parts truck with a knocking 4.3 and 700R4. AM I better off getting the motor/trans (4L60E) combo with all the acc, wiring, ECU etc... Or can I just buy the motor ,harness and ECU and make my ol 700R4 work just as well??? Also I have a 5/6 drop currently and was wondering what springs to use up fron to compensate for the weight and keep my stance??? I know I wrote a book but this is just the beginning!!!!

[chevy_s104ya]

whats up guys? ive had my 86 s10 for 10 months now and havent even touched it. its in mint condition and last night i ripped out the heart (5.7L 350 v8) out of a 88 gmc jimmy full size that i bought for 200 bucks engine runs perfect, but i just dont know where to start my surgery can someone help me out on exactly what parts i will need,as far as headers,intake,drive shaft,rear,etc. thanks

[edelbrock305]

Quote: Originally Posted by Beeker

In most cases, No, I highly reccomend headers for a decent fit, and better Access to Spark plugs. With the headers, the steering shaft goes between 2 loops in the drivers side header, and Im pretty sure if they were manifolds, it would not fit, or rup horribly

Exhaust Manifolds will fit from an 82 Camaro! That is what I am running in mine! I paid 50.00 for the set!

[casketmaker]

Everyone seems to like fuel injection and seem to have money laying around to buy a bunch of parts. I however work at Wal Mart so I guess you can figure out that money is tight as hell. I have a 1989 S 10 that was bought as a daily driver that I would slowely modify. Today I drove it to my brothers house (where my tools are stored) about an hour away so I could put on a 3" block kit on the rear. Everything went fine and the truck looked great. On the way home my tranny went to crap. I found out that an S 10 is light but it still sucks to push one.
Here is what I am looking at. My truck has a 2.5 TBI tranny is a ??? 5 speed. In my brothers garage I have a great running 350 that was pulled from a 77 Buick Electra with a 400 turbo tranny. I also have two 89 Beretta junkers that have good electric fans. I would like to use as many parts as I can from my little junk yard so I don't have to spend much.

THE ENGINE It is a 1977 350 CI Buick with a holly 4 bbl and manual fuel pump and stock manifolds. All wiring is still on the engine because the wire harness was cut at the fire wall. The car it came from is still in the back acres so I can get more parts if needed.

I have a Mig welder, air tools, two big cabnets full of hand tools, and a friend who can usualy fix (or destroy) any problem that comes his way.

Since I am installing a dinosour engine that has no computer opperation at all how hard would it be to just bypass the computer? I have a small fuse box that will be installed to run the Sun gages, stereo and custome lighting. I am probably going to set up the engine starter like a drag car with a switch and button that will be tucked away in the center console that my father in law is making for me.

From the way I see it The parts I will need are;
Custom engine mounts
custom trans mounts
drive shaft Modification
some fuel line and fittings
battery relocation kit
a butt load of wire
and headers.

Does this sound right? Does anyone have any experience with swaping a 2.5 TPI for a 350 (5.7) with a carb and manual fuel pump? I could realy use some penny pinching input here. I have 2 or 3 junk yards close by and don't mind swimming in oil to find what I want.

THNX

My other option is easier but not as rewarding. I know a guy with a recked 91 S10 who will sell me the tranny for $50. It is a 4 speed instead of a 5 speed but I'm sure it will work with my 2.5...