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Old 02-14-2003, 06:45 PM   #51
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So I have another quetion on rear-suspension. What is the best for the least cash. I was thinking of doing a mono-leaf with stiff A$$ shocks, traction bars, and a thick anti-sway bar(front and rear of course. what do you guys think? with around 450 ponies crankin would that hook-up or am I just thinking out of my a$$?
Aren't you always thinking out your A$$?

[off topic] Erik, you need to come home and check out a local Jimmy with me... I'm going to look at it right now.... it's at the lot across from Micah's work, black, 17" centerlines, and the sing in the window said V8....sell you the engine

I was wondering too about a rear end that will be strong enough....Any easy rear end remedies for S-10s, and how are you guys finding traction at the track?????

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is there any way to use my 5 speed tran with my 305 eng swap?
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what about 2.8 4x4 to 350
Old 02-17-2003, 11:19 AM   #54
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I've got the stock 3spd with overdrive tranny that came with it.
Anyone got a TBI V8 they wanna sell? lol
...so everything should just bolt out and then bolt right back in with new mounts? It's that easy?
Does the hood still clear with the new engine or should I get a hood scoop or something?
Do I have to custom fab my mounts of does someone make them to buy for this application? I'm sure someone does...

So my stock ECU will work perfectly fine with the new engine? Would I need to get it reprogrammed to run with more fuel?

Could I find a wrecked S10 with a posi-rear end to swap into my limited slip as a direct swap or do I have to do some modifications to make that work?

Again, thanks everyone for your help!
The best aftermarket mounts I have seen so far are a set from heddman that bolt to the block. With these particular mounts the engine sits nice and low and clearance is not a prblem. You can make custom mounts yourself, I made my own, but if you are not comfortable wit this it is simplier just to buy em.

Your stock ECM will work not problem with the new motor as long as it is a TBI usit like the 4.3L. The only time you will have to "reprogram" it or change the chip is if you start making big mods to the engine.

Rearend is a direct bolt up swap.
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Thanks K-man!
Old 02-18-2003, 07:19 AM   #56
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is there any way to use my 5 speed tran with my 305 eng swap?
What is in your truck for a motor right now? The four cylinder and 2.8L V6 use different bellhousings than the 4.3L. A 4.3L is the same bolt pattern as a small block chev.
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what about 2.8 4x4 to 350

You'll need a rad, mounts bellhousing/transfer case from a 4.3L and some mods for exhaust to fit. An oil filter relocator would help too.
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K-Man, You seem to have your stuff inline.
do you know anything about the 301T? they came out of early 80's T/M's I guess. Not that I am going to go that route, I was just looking into it for knowlege reasons.

on the same note, how much of a difference in the swap would pontiac be? If any?

Whendid those cars have the 301t's in them?
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I've read the jtr convertion man, not much on the new body style hope everything's the same when I go to do it.
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ok guys im new and so here goes my 86 s10 exteneded cab 4x4 has a 2.8 and auto overdrive. i've heard that the pre 88s have a narrower frame. so what trouble will this cause and what vehicle should i get a auto tranny from that will fit in my truck and bolt to my transfer case and about the added weight do i just crank up the torsen bars alittle......................thanks jim
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and what about carborated 86 s dimes i took the motor out of a 82 camaro z28
Old 02-20-2003, 07:30 AM   #62
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and what about carborated 86 s dimes i took the motor out of a 82 camaro z28
This type of swap is a lot easier, mainly because you do not have to worry about all the wiring with computer controlled engines.
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Looks as though this thread is really starting to come alive. I should post some picks of these motor mounts I have made that I keep talking about. If I can dig through the snow, I'll show you guys a great simple way to save $$ and have the best mounts around. Only drawback is that these particular mounts are designed for a 2.8L to V8 swap. Will grab pics of both 2.5L and 4.3L to V8 mounts next time I'm at my buddies house. We just re-installed his Whipple charged 350TBI in a 4.3L truck and are finishing up on a carbed 305 in an old 2.5L truck. We've done these swaps in the past but never taken photos of the mounts, etc. Now's the best time, the trucks are still apart. Will keep you guys posted.


P.S. To answer the "new body style" question a few posts back, best swap I have seen so far is the 2.2L to LS1.
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Could someone take a look at my questions on the previous page and give me some input maybe? Thx
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Could someone take a look at my questions on the previous page and give me some input maybe? Thx
It would be much easier to use a painless wiring kit to do this install. If you go the other route and use the harness from the donor camaro, you'll need to splice it into your existing harness wire by wire. This is possible to do (once you've cut out all the old ECM wiring), but it will tak a lot of patience and a wiring diagram for both the S-10 and camaro. Don't let this scare you though, 99% of the wires go from the ECM to the motor and will be in the donor harness. There are only a few wires that come from the s-10 harness that you have to worry about, mainly power to the ECM, power to the distributor, starter, ignition and alt. Give the guys at JTR (Jaguars That Run) a call on this one for some more input., they have actually performed this swap on and old style s-10.

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Looks as though this thread is really starting to come alive. I should post some picks of these motor mounts I have made that I keep talking about. If I can dig through the snow, I'll show you guys a great simple way to save $$ and have the best mounts around. Only drawback is that these particular mounts are designed for a 2.8L to V8 swap. Will grab pics of both 2.5L and 4.3L to V8 mounts next time I'm at my buddies house. We just re-installed his Whipple charged 350TBI in a 4.3L truck and are finishing up on a carbed 305 in an old 2.5L truck. We've done these swaps in the past but never taken photos of the mounts, etc. Now's the best time, the trucks are still apart. Will keep you guys posted.


P.S. To answer the "new body style" question a few posts back, best swap I have seen so far is the 2.2L to LS1.
Do you have any info on this swap? I have A 97 sonoma with the 2.2 need lots more power and want to go this route. I have been reading the jtr convertion manual.
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i have a 2.2 in my s10 and want to put a350 in it but i want to get rid of the computer. Can this be done? i am planing on using headman headers and mounts. also what tranny do you think i should use? do i need to put a diffrent rear end in it or will my stock one work?plaing on using a carbed set up.
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Do you have any info on this swap? I have A 97 sonoma with the 2.2 need lots more power and want to go this route. I have been reading the jtr convertion manual.
There was a company called "Wheel-2-wheel" that made a complete kit to do the 2.2L to LS1 swap, but I havn't been able to track them down lately. This kit included EVERYTHING, right down to a cold air intake tube and cone filter. I'll keep hunting and post if I find anything.
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i have a 2.2 in my s10 and want to put a350 in it but i want to get rid of the computer. Can this be done? i am planing on using headman headers and mounts. also what tranny do you think i should use? do i need to put a diffrent rear end in it or will my stock one work?plaing on using a carbed set up.
Yes, this can be done, much in the same way as any 86-93 first gen. My suggestion for trans would be a 700R4 overdrive unit out of an 88 or later GM truck or rwd car. These are great on the highway and will easily handle up to 450HP without mods. Anything over that and you'll have to beef it up. Your stock rearend will be fine, they are virtually bulletproof and are the same units that were used in all the midsized cars and camaro/firebirds. If you were to do anything to the rearend, I would suggest swapping the guts out for a posi unit just to get better traction off the line (and fun too, ie. donuts)...

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Found it, www.wheeltowheelinc.com
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I have a 94 cpi i want to go stock 350 TBI ....i really don`t understand why i couldn`t use my CPI comp/harness with the tbi ...

both...injectors fire the same Realize i have to make piggyback for tbi
... all connections for the sensors are same except EGR
....neither use MAF sensors
....both use O2 sensors

other than EGR i don`t see the differance if anything the CPI fuel map might be better for the 350.

but just in case im getting a 94 fullsize TBI set up...if im wrong.

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contine of above 660z post.

also i have to change the fuelpump. when i get his 350 tbi setup i`ll get a v6 intake and see if im right. that way i get the bugs out before the v8 swap....

any advice is welcomed


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sorry i`ve learned alot about the different FI systems since i wrote those posts....some i was right some wrong..mark
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i can get a ls1 with the trans and engine complete with harnesses, computer, and sensors everything!.. what do i need to put this in my 99 s-10. 4.3 auto..?

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when putting in a 350 carb, what will i need to do with the stuff in the fuel tank, will i have to get bigger fuel lines too?and how can i still get all the gauges on my dash to work if i go carb?
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from what i understand since your truck is set up with TBI all you have to do is just put the motor in and hook your fuelinjection back up to it. your gauges will read the same as it did with the 4.3 except the tach.

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This summer i plan on doing a 305 or 350 swap. Ive currently got a 91 sonoma with an tbi 4.3 from an 88 jimmy. Its also got a 700r4 with a stg 2 shift kit, extra cluth packs, and a vette servo. Im getting the stealth conversion (JTR) motor mount adapters from a guy on another board. What I would like to know is which headers to use. Ive got headmans on my 4.3 and loathe them to death. Ive always been told that you have to stay with a system, if you use one companys motor mount kit then you have to use their headers. IS this true or can i use something else? I would like to use some of the ones that go around the steering shaft if possible. Also does anybody know if the tbi setup will work on other small blocks besides the 305 and 350. I saw someone talking about using a 350 block with a 283 crank to yield a 302 small block.
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but i wanna go carb though
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Why? Fuel injection is way more reliable not to mention the better gsa mileage and better throttle response. The tbi set up is very simple, easy to maintain.
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hate to f u c k with the thread...but where is the part on 60 degree v-6 to TBI 350
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Basically, its the same thing as a 2.2 swap, as the tranny will NOT bolt up to the v8.

Im working on putting a new 5.7 HEMI in the '89 dime this summer, along with tranny. Ill keep you posted on this as soon as it gets underway (searching for a decent engine now)
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maybe but a carb is a lot easier to tune
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are there any suspension modifications required for a 262 -> 350 swap?
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how far back does the trans go and how much shorter does the drive shaft need to be. is movin the tranny as easy as relocating the cross member the mount is on?
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