Swapping? Heres A List Of Parts And Answered Questions!

Sickboy148 · 02-14-2003, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ryc_Hunter
So I have another quetion on rear-suspension. What is the best for the least cash. I was thinking of doing a mono-leaf with stiff A$$ shocks, traction bars, and a thick anti-sway bar(front and rear of course. what do you guys think? with around 450 ponies crankin would that hook-up or am I just thinking out of my a$$?

Aren't you always thinking out your A$$?

[off topic] Erik, you need to come home and check out a local Jimmy with me... I'm going to look at it right now.... it's at the lot across from Micah's work, black, 17" centerlines, and the sing in the window said V8....sell you the engine

I was wondering too about a rear end that will be strong enough....Any easy rear end remedies for S-10s, and how are you guys finding traction at the track?????

Thanks

p bailey · 02-16-2003, 12:48 AM

is there any way to use my 5 speed tran with my 305 eng swap?

grumpy8 · 02-16-2003, 03:33 PM

what about 2.8 4x4 to 350

K-Man · 02-17-2003, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Vertigo
I've got the stock 3spd with overdrive tranny that came with it.
Anyone got a TBI V8 they wanna sell? lol
...so everything should just bolt out and then bolt right back in with new mounts? It's that easy?
Does the hood still clear with the new engine or should I get a hood scoop or something?
Do I have to custom fab my mounts of does someone make them to buy for this application? I'm sure someone does...

So my stock ECU will work perfectly fine with the new engine? Would I need to get it reprogrammed to run with more fuel?

Could I find a wrecked S10 with a posi-rear end to swap into my limited slip as a direct swap or do I have to do some modifications to make that work?

Again, thanks everyone for your help!

The best aftermarket mounts I have seen so far are a set from heddman that bolt to the block. With these particular mounts the engine sits nice and low and clearance is not a prblem. You can make custom mounts yourself, I made my own, but if you are not comfortable wit this it is simplier just to buy em.

Your stock ECM will work not problem with the new motor as long as it is a TBI usit like the 4.3L. The only time you will have to "reprogram" it or change the chip is if you start making big mods to the engine.

Rearend is a direct bolt up swap.

Vertigo · 02-17-2003, 07:53 PM

Thanks K-man!

K-Man · 02-18-2003, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by p bailey
is there any way to use my 5 speed tran with my 305 eng swap?

What is in your truck for a motor right now? The four cylinder and 2.8L V6 use different bellhousings than the 4.3L. A 4.3L is the same bolt pattern as a small block chev.

K-Man · 02-18-2003, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by grumpy8
what about 2.8 4x4 to 350

You'll need a rad, mounts bellhousing/transfer case from a 4.3L and some mods for exhaust to fit. An oil filter relocator would help too.

Ryc_Hunter · 02-19-2003, 02:50 AM

K-Man, You seem to have your stuff inline.
do you know anything about the 301T? they came out of early 80's T/M's I guess. Not that I am going to go that route, I was just looking into it for knowlege reasons.

on the same note, how much of a difference in the swap would pontiac be? If any?

Whendid those cars have the 301t's in them?
thanks-

THE BAG HAG · 02-19-2003, 08:49 AM

I've read the jtr convertion man, not much on the new body style hope everything's the same when I go to do it.

rustyjunk · 02-19-2003, 10:26 AM

ok guys im new and so here goes my 86 s10 exteneded cab 4x4 has a 2.8 and auto overdrive. i've heard that the pre 88s have a narrower frame. so what trouble will this cause and what vehicle should i get a auto tranny from that will fit in my truck and bolt to my transfer case and about the added weight do i just crank up the torsen bars alittle......................thanks jim

Nesra Creator · 02-19-2003, 11:58 PM

and what about carborated 86 s dimes i took the motor out of a 82 camaro z28

K-Man · 02-20-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Nesra Creator
and what about carborated 86 s dimes i took the motor out of a 82 camaro z28

This type of swap is a lot easier, mainly because you do not have to worry about all the wiring with computer controlled engines.

K-Man · 02-20-2003, 08:37 AM

Looks as though this thread is really starting to come alive. I should post some picks of these motor mounts I have made that I keep talking about. If I can dig through the snow, I'll show you guys a great simple way to save $$ and have the best mounts around. Only drawback is that these particular mounts are designed for a 2.8L to V8 swap. Will grab pics of both 2.5L and 4.3L to V8 mounts next time I'm at my buddies house. We just re-installed his Whipple charged 350TBI in a 4.3L truck and are finishing up on a carbed 305 in an old 2.5L truck. We've done these swaps in the past but never taken photos of the mounts, etc. Now's the best time, the trucks are still apart. Will keep you guys posted.

P.S. To answer the "new body style" question a few posts back, best swap I have seen so far is the 2.2L to LS1.

weareweird69 · 02-20-2003, 11:13 PM

Could someone take a look at my questions on the previous page and give me some input maybe? Thx

K-Man · 02-21-2003, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by weareweird69
Could someone take a look at my questions on the previous page and give me some input maybe? Thx

It would be much easier to use a painless wiring kit to do this install. If you go the other route and use the harness from the donor camaro, you'll need to splice it into your existing harness wire by wire. This is possible to do (once you've cut out all the old ECM wiring), but it will tak a lot of patience and a wiring diagram for both the S-10 and camaro. Don't let this scare you though, 99% of the wires go from the ECM to the motor and will be in the donor harness. There are only a few wires that come from the s-10 harness that you have to worry about, mainly power to the ECM, power to the distributor, starter, ignition and alt. Give the guys at JTR (Jaguars That Run) a call on this one for some more input., they have actually performed this swap on and old style s-10.

THE BAG HAG · 02-22-2003, 02:08 AM

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Originally posted by K-Man
Looks as though this thread is really starting to come alive. I should post some picks of these motor mounts I have made that I keep talking about. If I can dig through the snow, I'll show you guys a great simple way to save $$ and have the best mounts around. Only drawback is that these particular mounts are designed for a 2.8L to V8 swap. Will grab pics of both 2.5L and 4.3L to V8 mounts next time I'm at my buddies house. We just re-installed his Whipple charged 350TBI in a 4.3L truck and are finishing up on a carbed 305 in an old 2.5L truck. We've done these swaps in the past but never taken photos of the mounts, etc. Now's the best time, the trucks are still apart. Will keep you guys posted.

P.S. To answer the "new body style" question a few posts back, best swap I have seen so far is the 2.2L to LS1.

Do you have any info on this swap? I have A 97 sonoma with the 2.2 need lots more power and want to go this route. I have been reading the jtr convertion manual.

layin17s · 02-24-2003, 06:44 PM

i have a 2.2 in my s10 and want to put a350 in it but i want to get rid of the computer. Can this be done? i am planing on using headman headers and mounts. also what tranny do you think i should use? do i need to put a diffrent rear end in it or will my stock one work?plaing on using a carbed set up.

K-Man · 02-25-2003, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by macon
Do you have any info on this swap? I have A 97 sonoma with the 2.2 need lots more power and want to go this route. I have been reading the jtr convertion manual.

There was a company called "Wheel-2-wheel" that made a complete kit to do the 2.2L to LS1 swap, but I havn't been able to track them down lately. This kit included EVERYTHING, right down to a cold air intake tube and cone filter. I'll keep hunting and post if I find anything.

K-Man · 02-25-2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by layin17s
i have a 2.2 in my s10 and want to put a350 in it but i want to get rid of the computer. Can this be done? i am planing on using headman headers and mounts. also what tranny do you think i should use? do i need to put a diffrent rear end in it or will my stock one work?plaing on using a carbed set up.

Yes, this can be done, much in the same way as any 86-93 first gen. My suggestion for trans would be a 700R4 overdrive unit out of an 88 or later GM truck or rwd car. These are great on the highway and will easily handle up to 450HP without mods. Anything over that and you'll have to beef it up. Your stock rearend will be fine, they are virtually bulletproof and are the same units that were used in all the midsized cars and camaro/firebirds. If you were to do anything to the rearend, I would suggest swapping the guts out for a posi unit just to get better traction off the line (and fun too, ie. donuts)...

K-Man · 02-25-2003, 01:22 PM

Found it, www.wheeltowheelinc.com

660z · 02-26-2003, 10:05 AM

I have a 94 cpi i want to go stock 350 TBI ....i really don`t understand why i couldn`t use my CPI comp/harness with the tbi ...

both...injectors fire the same Realize i have to make piggyback for tbi
... all connections for the sensors are same except EGR
....neither use MAF sensors
....both use O2 sensors

other than EGR i don`t see the differance if anything the CPI fuel map might be better for the 350.

but just in case im getting a 94 fullsize TBI set up...if im wrong.

Mark

660z · 02-26-2003, 10:51 AM

contine of above 660z post.

also i have to change the fuelpump. when i get his 350 tbi setup i`ll get a v6 intake and see if im right. that way i get the bugs out before the v8 swap....

any advice is welcomed

mark

660z · 03-01-2003, 02:13 PM

sorry i`ve learned alot about the different FI systems since i wrote those posts....some i was right some wrong..mark

PACTOFF · 03-02-2003, 04:07 PM

i can get a ls1 with the trans and engine complete with harnesses, computer, and sensors everything!.. what do i need to put this in my 99 s-10. 4.3 auto..?

need help quick

blancs9410 · 03-19-2003, 02:21 AM

when putting in a 350 carb, what will i need to do with the stuff in the fuel tank, will i have to get bigger fuel lines too?and how can i still get all the gauges on my dash to work if i go carb?

660z · 03-19-2003, 08:48 AM

from what i understand since your truck is set up with TBI all you have to do is just put the motor in and hook your fuelinjection back up to it. your gauges will read the same as it did with the 4.3 except the tach.

Mark

rivbluenoma · 03-19-2003, 11:36 PM

This summer i plan on doing a 305 or 350 swap. Ive currently got a 91 sonoma with an tbi 4.3 from an 88 jimmy. Its also got a 700r4 with a stg 2 shift kit, extra cluth packs, and a vette servo. Im getting the stealth conversion (JTR) motor mount adapters from a guy on another board. What I would like to know is which headers to use. Ive got headmans on my 4.3 and loathe them to death. Ive always been told that you have to stay with a system, if you use one companys motor mount kit then you have to use their headers. IS this true or can i use something else? I would like to use some of the ones that go around the steering shaft if possible. Also does anybody know if the tbi setup will work on other small blocks besides the 305 and 350. I saw someone talking about using a 350 block with a 283 crank to yield a 302 small block.

blancs9410 · 03-20-2003, 08:17 PM

but i wanna go carb though

rivbluenoma · 03-20-2003, 09:37 PM

Why? Fuel injection is way more reliable not to mention the better gsa mileage and better throttle response. The tbi set up is very simple, easy to maintain.

Kain · 03-29-2003, 03:04 PM

hate to f u c k with the thread...but where is the part on 60 degree v-6 to TBI 350

Beeker · 04-09-2003, 04:32 PM

Basically, its the same thing as a 2.2 swap, as the tranny will NOT bolt up to the v8.

Im working on putting a new 5.7 HEMI in the '89 dime this summer, along with tranny. Ill keep you posted on this as soon as it gets underway (searching for a decent engine now)

rollinlows10 · 04-19-2003, 09:14 PM

maybe but a carb is a lot easier to tune

scourge_s10 · 04-22-2003, 05:49 PM

are there any suspension modifications required for a 262 -> 350 swap?

WhysoHigh · 04-22-2003, 11:45 PM

how far back does the trans go and how much shorter does the drive shaft need to be. is movin the tranny as easy as relocating the cross member the mount is on?

91s-10 · 04-23-2003, 09:50 AM

i've never heard of having to move the tranny cross member unless you are using a big block.

95silvers-10 · 05-06-2003, 08:29 PM

i have a 95 2.2 and was wonderin if i could use the tbi with the 350 swap? if not can some1 tell me. thanks

BadAss_S10_2002 · 05-06-2003, 11:44 PM

Sure can. But it'd be easier to use an aftermarket system.

95silvers-10 · 05-07-2003, 12:05 AM

What is a good aftermarket tbi and how much it cost me? Will the stock 2.2 not last long or something? thanks

BadAss_S10_2002 · 05-07-2003, 12:17 AM

If you get a complete TBI 350 you can use that one. You cannot use your 2.2L throttle body. A aftermarket fuel injection system will run from 1900-2300.

tstclr · 05-24-2003, 11:22 PM

So.. If I go from a TBI 4.3 in my 89 S10 2WD to a same vintage TBI 5.7, do I have to mess with trans/drivshaft locations or do they stay put? Can I use all my accessory mounts (Ac etc) and stock radiator? Can I use my stock throttle linkage? Also, all I'd have to do is change the PROM for a full sized truck application with a 5.7/auto, right?
Thanks
Todd

Unoudid · 05-30-2003, 04:03 AM

This is my first post and I have a few questions about this swap. I have a 94 s-10 with the 2.2 and a 5-speed tranny. I would like to switch it over to a 350 with either a TPI or LT1 system on top of it. I do not have much experience at all with working on motors. So with the swapping should I just have a 350 built up and then add the TPI or lt1 unit on top or does the the motor and top unit need to be all from the same car? What type of tranny is best to use? It doesn't matter much to me if it is another 5-speed or an auto. Should I be looking to get it out of a full sized truck or does it matter? Thanks in advance for your help.

1994_Blazer_Rolin · 06-02-2003, 03:09 PM

I need help, my 94 4.3 equiped blazer is beggin for a v8, do i need motor mount adapters or what??? can the stock mounts be used???

levihouston · 07-15-2003, 01:54 AM

I have a 89 S-10 blazer 4X4 with the 4.3L TBI and its spewing out about 2-3 quarts a week in oil from the rear main seal. So i figured its time for a 350. From what I have read on all the posts and stuff I could find on the net. All I need is the v8 motor mounts, 4x4 headers from headman headers, an Oil pan that will clear the front drivetrain, a bigger radiator, and if I go with a 350 TBI from the same year, everything should plug right in and bolt right up with the 700R4 tranny and computer thats already in my truck (or do I need to reprogram it or use the EPROM out of the truck with the 350?). Am I forgetting any thing?

Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

SLO RYDR · 07-22-2003, 02:36 PM

Under the hood of my 96 right now sits a stock 2.2L. I just bought a 96 LT1 out of a camaro with the whole computer, wiring harness, and cooling system. It had an automatic trans, and i know that my 4L60E will not bolt up to the LT1. I was wondering if it would be easier to get a 4.3L trans and built it up a little, or just get a camaro or corvette trans and go that route. Also if there's any major problems with doing this year swap.

Nightwing · 07-27-2003, 08:24 PM

I have a 95 2.2 EFI and the motor that i plan on stuffin in there is a 500hp 355 carb'd sb v8. will i have any problems with the computer at all? i ask because i didn't see any posts about this particular swap of a 2.2 EFI to a 350 carb'd. what would i do to retain the BCM?

Thanks
Tom

s10rcn · 08-07-2003, 03:27 AM

I have a 94 4.3L but its not vortec could i use the same computer and harness? I am swapping to a 400sb that a buddy is helpin me with. Its carbed. Would it be cheaper to convert the 400 to TBI or convert my computer and ecu to go with the carbed engine. I really would like TBI though. Is this swap the same as the 350 only a diff displacement. What are the advantages and drawbacks of using a 400 than a 350? Sorry so many q's but i wanna be sure to know what i am doing before i start

BadAss_S10_2002 · 08-07-2003, 02:47 PM

Easier...leave it carb'd. Cheaper...leave it carb'd. I would just tie wrap any sensor connectors out of the way, and leave the wiring in place, or completely remove the whole harness intact...There are no drawbacks over a 400sb and a 350sb. The blocks are the same...so just get the regular swap mounts. Glad to see some long beds finally running V8s(305/5spd is going in the 84, 327/4spd in the 85)

V8Blaze · 08-07-2003, 02:54 PM

Yea if you are going carb'd you wont have to worry about the computer. Your guages wont work nor will your speedo or odometer. (this applies to all toatlly computer controlled trucks only, some older s10s used cable driven speedos) My computer right now is totally un hooked and ready to come out. All my extra wires will be taken out of the wires loom and hiden under my windsheild squirter tank thing. So you cannot see them. B/c you will not believe how many extra wires you have when running a carb.

http://www.blazinlow.com/forum/attac...&postid=205872

notice all the wires pulled up out of the way on my windsheild....i need like four of them

Nightwing · 08-07-2003, 08:40 PM

how do i find out if my truck is totally computer controlled so i know if i need to run new guages for speedo and tach and such.

Thanks
Tom

BadAss_S10_2002 · 08-07-2003, 09:05 PM

Well I know up to 88 they were still cable driven speedos. But I would just go with some Autometer ones, as they'll be alot nicer to look at, plus will acutally be accurate! LoL I need to get a windsheild fluid tank/pump. Idiot removed them when he put the V8 in it. I swear lol after I dump the money into rewiring it it I'm adding one hellaciously loud exhaust...and I'll be done till I wear out the tires and lift it and roll on 31x10.50 and 31x12.50 Procomp X-Terrains

02-14-2003, 07:45 PM	#51
Sickboy148 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10 Location: User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by Ryc_Hunter So I have another quetion on rear-suspension. What is the best for the least cash. I was thinking of doing a mono-leaf with stiff A$$ shocks, traction bars, and a thick anti-sway bar(front and rear of course. what do you guys think? with around 450 ponies crankin would that hook-up or am I just thinking out of my a$$? Aren't you always thinking out your A$$? [off topic] Erik, you need to come home and check out a local Jimmy with me... I'm going to look at it right now.... it's at the lot across from Micah's work, black, 17" centerlines, and the sing in the window said V8....sell you the engine I was wondering too about a rear end that will be strong enough....Any easy rear end remedies for S-10s, and how are you guys finding traction at the track????? Thanks
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02-16-2003, 12:48 AM	#52
p bailey Registered User Age: 52 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1 Location: nw fl User is: OffLine	is there any way to use my 5 speed tran with my 305 eng swap?
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02-16-2003, 03:33 PM	#53
grumpy8 Registered User Age: 43 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 18 Location: plymouth ,mi User is: OffLine	what about 2.8 4x4 to 350
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02-17-2003, 12:19 PM	#54
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by Vertigo I've got the stock 3spd with overdrive tranny that came with it. Anyone got a TBI V8 they wanna sell? lol ...so everything should just bolt out and then bolt right back in with new mounts? It's that easy? Does the hood still clear with the new engine or should I get a hood scoop or something? Do I have to custom fab my mounts of does someone make them to buy for this application? I'm sure someone does... So my stock ECU will work perfectly fine with the new engine? Would I need to get it reprogrammed to run with more fuel? Could I find a wrecked S10 with a posi-rear end to swap into my limited slip as a direct swap or do I have to do some modifications to make that work? Again, thanks everyone for your help! The best aftermarket mounts I have seen so far are a set from heddman that bolt to the block. With these particular mounts the engine sits nice and low and clearance is not a prblem. You can make custom mounts yourself, I made my own, but if you are not comfortable wit this it is simplier just to buy em. Your stock ECM will work not problem with the new motor as long as it is a TBI usit like the 4.3L. The only time you will have to "reprogram" it or change the chip is if you start making big mods to the engine. Rearend is a direct bolt up swap.
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02-17-2003, 07:53 PM	#55
Vertigo Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 11 Location: Kennesaw User is: OffLine	Thanks K-man!
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02-18-2003, 08:19 AM	#56
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by p bailey is there any way to use my 5 speed tran with my 305 eng swap? What is in your truck for a motor right now? The four cylinder and 2.8L V6 use different bellhousings than the 4.3L. A 4.3L is the same bolt pattern as a small block chev.
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02-18-2003, 08:21 AM	#57
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by grumpy8 what about 2.8 4x4 to 350 You'll need a rad, mounts bellhousing/transfer case from a 4.3L and some mods for exhaust to fit. An oil filter relocator would help too.
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02-19-2003, 02:50 AM	#58
Ryc_Hunter Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 38 Location: Bellingham, Wa User is: OffLine	K-Man, You seem to have your stuff inline. do you know anything about the 301T? they came out of early 80's T/M's I guess. Not that I am going to go that route, I was just looking into it for knowlege reasons. on the same note, how much of a difference in the swap would pontiac be? If any? Whendid those cars have the 301t's in them? thanks-
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02-19-2003, 08:49 AM	#59
THE BAG HAG THE ANTIBOWTIE OUTKAST!!! Age: 39 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,230 Location: NOR CAL User is: OffLine	I've read the jtr convertion man, not much on the new body style hope everything's the same when I go to do it.
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02-19-2003, 10:26 AM	#60
rustyjunk the hoosier hillbilly Age: 43 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6 Location: User is: OffLine	ok guys im new and so here goes my 86 s10 exteneded cab 4x4 has a 2.8 and auto overdrive. i've heard that the pre 88s have a narrower frame. so what trouble will this cause and what vehicle should i get a auto tranny from that will fit in my truck and bolt to my transfer case and about the added weight do i just crank up the torsen bars alittle......................thanks jim
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02-19-2003, 11:58 PM	#61
Nesra Creator Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 112 Location: Old Orchard Beach User is: OffLine	and what about carborated 86 s dimes i took the motor out of a 82 camaro z28
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02-20-2003, 08:30 AM	#62
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by Nesra Creator and what about carborated 86 s dimes i took the motor out of a 82 camaro z28 This type of swap is a lot easier, mainly because you do not have to worry about all the wiring with computer controlled engines.
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02-20-2003, 08:37 AM	#63
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Looks as though this thread is really starting to come alive. I should post some picks of these motor mounts I have made that I keep talking about. If I can dig through the snow, I'll show you guys a great simple way to save $$ and have the best mounts around. Only drawback is that these particular mounts are designed for a 2.8L to V8 swap. Will grab pics of both 2.5L and 4.3L to V8 mounts next time I'm at my buddies house. We just re-installed his Whipple charged 350TBI in a 4.3L truck and are finishing up on a carbed 305 in an old 2.5L truck. We've done these swaps in the past but never taken photos of the mounts, etc. Now's the best time, the trucks are still apart. Will keep you guys posted. P.S. To answer the "new body style" question a few posts back, best swap I have seen so far is the 2.2L to LS1.
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02-20-2003, 11:13 PM	#64
weareweird69 PA Roads SUCK! Age: 23 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 230 Location: Western Pennsylvania User is: OffLine	Could someone take a look at my questions on the previous page and give me some input maybe? Thx
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02-21-2003, 08:24 AM	#65
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by weareweird69 Could someone take a look at my questions on the previous page and give me some input maybe? Thx It would be much easier to use a painless wiring kit to do this install. If you go the other route and use the harness from the donor camaro, you'll need to splice it into your existing harness wire by wire. This is possible to do (once you've cut out all the old ECM wiring), but it will tak a lot of patience and a wiring diagram for both the S-10 and camaro. Don't let this scare you though, 99% of the wires go from the ECM to the motor and will be in the donor harness. There are only a few wires that come from the s-10 harness that you have to worry about, mainly power to the ECM, power to the distributor, starter, ignition and alt. Give the guys at JTR (Jaguars That Run) a call on this one for some more input., they have actually performed this swap on and old style s-10. Last edited by K-Man : 02-21-2003 at 08:27 AM.
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02-22-2003, 02:08 AM	#66
THE BAG HAG THE ANTIBOWTIE OUTKAST!!! Age: 39 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,230 Location: NOR CAL User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by K-Man Looks as though this thread is really starting to come alive. I should post some picks of these motor mounts I have made that I keep talking about. If I can dig through the snow, I'll show you guys a great simple way to save $$ and have the best mounts around. Only drawback is that these particular mounts are designed for a 2.8L to V8 swap. Will grab pics of both 2.5L and 4.3L to V8 mounts next time I'm at my buddies house. We just re-installed his Whipple charged 350TBI in a 4.3L truck and are finishing up on a carbed 305 in an old 2.5L truck. We've done these swaps in the past but never taken photos of the mounts, etc. Now's the best time, the trucks are still apart. Will keep you guys posted. P.S. To answer the "new body style" question a few posts back, best swap I have seen so far is the 2.2L to LS1. Do you have any info on this swap? I have A 97 sonoma with the 2.2 need lots more power and want to go this route. I have been reading the jtr convertion manual.
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02-24-2003, 06:44 PM	#67
layin17s Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1 Location: orlando User is: OffLine	i have a 2.2 in my s10 and want to put a350 in it but i want to get rid of the computer. Can this be done? i am planing on using headman headers and mounts. also what tranny do you think i should use? do i need to put a diffrent rear end in it or will my stock one work?plaing on using a carbed set up.
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02-25-2003, 01:04 PM	#68
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by macon Do you have any info on this swap? I have A 97 sonoma with the 2.2 need lots more power and want to go this route. I have been reading the jtr convertion manual. There was a company called "Wheel-2-wheel" that made a complete kit to do the 2.2L to LS1 swap, but I havn't been able to track them down lately. This kit included EVERYTHING, right down to a cold air intake tube and cone filter. I'll keep hunting and post if I find anything.
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02-25-2003, 01:10 PM	#69
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by layin17s i have a 2.2 in my s10 and want to put a350 in it but i want to get rid of the computer. Can this be done? i am planing on using headman headers and mounts. also what tranny do you think i should use? do i need to put a diffrent rear end in it or will my stock one work?plaing on using a carbed set up. Yes, this can be done, much in the same way as any 86-93 first gen. My suggestion for trans would be a 700R4 overdrive unit out of an 88 or later GM truck or rwd car. These are great on the highway and will easily handle up to 450HP without mods. Anything over that and you'll have to beef it up. Your stock rearend will be fine, they are virtually bulletproof and are the same units that were used in all the midsized cars and camaro/firebirds. If you were to do anything to the rearend, I would suggest swapping the guts out for a posi unit just to get better traction off the line (and fun too, ie. donuts)...
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02-25-2003, 01:22 PM	#70
K-Man 2SMOOTH Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 206 Location: Dartmouth, N.S. CANADA Eh! User is: OffLine	Found it, www.wheeltowheelinc.com
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02-26-2003, 10:05 AM	#71
660z Registered User Age: 40 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 41 Location: wilmington,de User is: OffLine	I have a 94 cpi i want to go stock 350 TBI ....i really don`t understand why i couldn`t use my CPI comp/harness with the tbi ... both...injectors fire the same Realize i have to make piggyback for tbi ... all connections for the sensors are same except EGR ....neither use MAF sensors ....both use O2 sensors other than EGR i don`t see the differance if anything the CPI fuel map might be better for the 350. but just in case im getting a 94 fullsize TBI set up...if im wrong. Mark
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02-26-2003, 10:51 AM	#72
660z Registered User Age: 40 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 41 Location: wilmington,de User is: OffLine	contine of above 660z post. also i have to change the fuelpump. when i get his 350 tbi setup i`ll get a v6 intake and see if im right. that way i get the bugs out before the v8 swap.... any advice is welcomed mark Last edited by 660z : 02-26-2003 at 10:57 AM.
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03-01-2003, 02:13 PM	#73
660z Registered User Age: 40 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 41 Location: wilmington,de User is: OffLine	sorry i`ve learned alot about the different FI systems since i wrote those posts....some i was right some wrong..mark
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03-02-2003, 04:07 PM	#74
PACTOFF Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 76 Location: User is: OffLine	i can get a ls1 with the trans and engine complete with harnesses, computer, and sensors everything!.. what do i need to put this in my 99 s-10. 4.3 auto..? need help quick
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03-19-2003, 02:21 AM	#75
blancs9410 Fever for the Flava Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 446 Location: Birmingham, Alabama User is: OffLine	when putting in a 350 carb, what will i need to do with the stuff in the fuel tank, will i have to get bigger fuel lines too?and how can i still get all the gauges on my dash to work if i go carb?
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03-19-2003, 08:48 AM	#76
660z Registered User Age: 40 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 41 Location: wilmington,de User is: OffLine	from what i understand since your truck is set up with TBI all you have to do is just put the motor in and hook your fuelinjection back up to it. your gauges will read the same as it did with the 4.3 except the tach. Mark
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03-19-2003, 11:36 PM	#77
rivbluenoma Dead Project Truck Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 642 Location: KC User is: OffLine	This summer i plan on doing a 305 or 350 swap. Ive currently got a 91 sonoma with an tbi 4.3 from an 88 jimmy. Its also got a 700r4 with a stg 2 shift kit, extra cluth packs, and a vette servo. Im getting the stealth conversion (JTR) motor mount adapters from a guy on another board. What I would like to know is which headers to use. Ive got headmans on my 4.3 and loathe them to death. Ive always been told that you have to stay with a system, if you use one companys motor mount kit then you have to use their headers. IS this true or can i use something else? I would like to use some of the ones that go around the steering shaft if possible. Also does anybody know if the tbi setup will work on other small blocks besides the 305 and 350. I saw someone talking about using a 350 block with a 283 crank to yield a 302 small block.
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03-20-2003, 08:17 PM	#78
blancs9410 Fever for the Flava Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 446 Location: Birmingham, Alabama User is: OffLine	but i wanna go carb though
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03-20-2003, 09:37 PM	#79
rivbluenoma Dead Project Truck Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 642 Location: KC User is: OffLine	Why? Fuel injection is way more reliable not to mention the better gsa mileage and better throttle response. The tbi set up is very simple, easy to maintain.
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03-29-2003, 03:04 PM	#80
Kain CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 26 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Rockford, IL User is: OffLine	hate to f u c k with the thread...but where is the part on 60 degree v-6 to TBI 350
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04-09-2003, 04:32 PM	#81
Beeker Muppet Baby Member Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,294 Location: Stillwater, MN User is: OffLine	Basically, its the same thing as a 2.2 swap, as the tranny will NOT bolt up to the v8. Im working on putting a new 5.7 HEMI in the '89 dime this summer, along with tranny. Ill keep you posted on this as soon as it gets underway (searching for a decent engine now)
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04-19-2003, 09:14 PM	#82
rollinlows10 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 36 Location: rogersville tn User is: OffLine	maybe but a carb is a lot easier to tune
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04-22-2003, 05:49 PM	#83
scourge_s10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 9 Location: User is: OffLine	are there any suspension modifications required for a 262 -> 350 swap?
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04-22-2003, 11:45 PM	#84
WhysoHigh BUILT NOT BOUGHT Age: 26 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 502 Location: Michigan User is: OffLine	how far back does the trans go and how much shorter does the drive shaft need to be. is movin the tranny as easy as relocating the cross member the mount is on?
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04-23-2003, 09:50 AM	#85
91s-10 Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 661 Location: Crittenden, Kentucky User is: OffLine	i've never heard of having to move the tranny cross member unless you are using a big block.
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