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Cutting off
Have a slight problem i have a 88 s10 blazer stock 350,with a 270 comp cam elderbrock intake,elderbrock 1405 carburetor! It has a rough idle but when i put it in gear it idle 2 low and cuts off! Can anyone offer any suggestion?
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Hoods are overrated
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Re: Cutting off
get a timing light
clamp 1 end on ground, and 1 end on the #1 spark plug wire (drivers side front) and check the timing off of the crank shaft balancer. there's a little timing tab, it may be nasty and you may have to clean it off. get it timed to 0 by turning the distributor one way or the other. that's a good base to start from, then you can adjust the timing + or - depending on how it runs as you give the motor some gas |
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Re: Cutting off
Sounds like the converter is not enough for the cam... I dont know what duration on that cam is but You are probably going to have to get it idling high in park to idle down right in gear.....
But i would start with the timing to.... I would set it advanced at about 37ish, for a stockish 350. So try and set the timing advanced with the vacium hose pulled off the distributer, and blocked from the intake. |
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goin broke but n style
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Re: Cutting off
you want about 37 total timing, and idle timing you would want anywhere form 0-8 degrees, some eng can take even 10 degrees, depending on cam and octane of gas used.
It also sounds like it may be idled 2 low, idle it up a bit with the idle screw on the throttle. |
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Re: Cutting off
Thanks the specs on the cam 470" lift 270 duration!
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goin broke but n style
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Re: Cutting off
with something like that, i woudl recommend a 2500-3k stall convertor. What is your stall.
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Re: Cutting off
It's the stock stall when i ordered the cam they told me it was the biggest cam i could run on the stock stall converter!
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goin broke but n style
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Re: Cutting off
that is really pushing it.
have you tired to idle it up to see what it does, i woudl start with 100 rpm increments. |
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Re: Cutting off
I was going to suggest idle as well. what is it idling at to begin with?
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bad s-10's brewing
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Re: Cutting off
That paticular cam is pretty tame , the duration you quoted is actually advertised duration. The duration at .050 lift is closer to 228 duration. I agree with the rest of these guys get your timing set and readjust your idle, your convertor shouldn't play into this at all.
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Re: Cutting off
Well guys i've tried everything and its still cuttin of soon u put in gear only thing left 2 2 try is changin out the torque converter!
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Re: Cutting off
Lol went 2 get a stall converter and realize i don't know what kinda transmission i got! do any of u guys know what transmission came with a pinion yoke on the tail shaft and no shift cable works of vacuum alone and is not computer control?
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Re: Cutting off
sounds like a turbo 400...
but the convertor is not your problem! i've got the same cam in a 350 in my 82 van. it idles at 750-770 in park. and 680-700 in gear. it sounds rough but it isnt at all. still have plenty for the steering and brakes. you have some other issue goin on. and this is with a stock 700-r4 convertor with lockup... |
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Re: Cutting off
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Re: Cutting off
No, the cam is not too big. Why not set up the idle a little faster? Also,there should be no rough idle with this cam. Check the carb settings and the ignition timing.
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bad s-10's brewing
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Re: Cutting off
Try to set your timing with a vacum gauge. Its kind of old school but it works. Advance your timing till you get the highest manifold vacum (not ported) when you get that turn the distributer 1/4 inch farther advanced and it should be good.I have a 98 vortec with 95 4.3 serpentine and cant get a light on my balancer ,this has always worked well for me ... Good luck
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Re: Cutting off
wanted 2 thank everybody for their input and suggestion,finally got this thing going the problem turned out 2 be valves were adjusted 2 tight! Thanks again everybody!
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