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97 s-10, SBC 400 build
So I have been piecing this together since January but I have been hesitant to post about it because of the pessimism that surrounds this forum.
Anyway, there are a bunch of good guys/gals on here and I wanted to share...and maybe brag a little bit.  So far this is what I have on hand: ·SBC 400 509 Casting·ATI Super Damper Harmonic Balancer ·Clevite 77 Main and Rod Bearings ·Eagle 4340 Forged Steel Crank 3.75 in stroke·ARP Main and Head studs ·Double Roller timing chain and gears ·Comp Cams Endure-X Mechanical Roller lifters ·Isky Racing Cams custom grind cam Solid Roller 4-7 swap·Ross Forged Aluminum pistons +3cc dome·Speedway 4340 H-beam rods ·AFR 210cc Aluminum Heads Intake Valve Diameter: 2.08·Victor Jr. single plane intake manifold ·Pro Systems custom built Carb REAL 850 cfm·CSR Electric Water Pump ·Melling Oil Pump ·Comp Cams Ultra Gold Aluminum Rocker Arms 1.6 ratioI know I jumped around a lot in that list but you get the picture. Compression should be right at 10.5/1 and hopes are around 600 flywheel HP. Also, I already have a fully built 10 bolt rearend that is built to hold 1000 HP. And I am eyeballing the 765R4 from bowtieoverdrives.com. Just thought I would share and would enjoy your comments. And dont worry pictures are soon to come. Last edited by emann_01 : 09-09-2009 at 11:58 PM. |
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09-10-2009, 12:10 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
where these pics at ahha
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09-10-2009, 01:18 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
DAMN!
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09-10-2009, 01:43 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
thought i should get these inhere before the "post pics to prove it" comments came in
damn...i just realized how embarrassed i should be about my sig Last edited by emann_01 : 09-10-2009 at 01:45 AM. |
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09-10-2009, 10:26 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
NICE!
I have a 406 in my S10 too, so I will be watching this very close. I am very interested in feed back from your heads. I am not sure if i want to go with 195's or the 210's. PM me as your build progresses |
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09-10-2009, 10:38 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Looks like she will be a nice motor. Now lets see this thing get done so we can hear it run!!!
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09-10-2009, 11:42 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
well i had a mishap this past weekend...
while measuring for pushrod length it was discovered that i ordered the wrong piston pin length so i have ordered more Ross pistons that will give me the desired compression of 10.38/1 i will definately keep everyone informed about my build thanks for the comments so far! |
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09-11-2009, 11:50 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
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09-11-2009, 12:33 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
I just need some pics of the truck it's going in. That way if I pass through your area I'll know who NOT to line up next to at the light!
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09-12-2009, 03:29 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
rocker arms showed up yesterday...still waiting on pistons
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09-12-2009, 03:45 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
That looks like a nice build, I got a pro systems carb from patrick last spring, worked great out of the box. For the 227's, harland sharp sells a offset intake rocker for them. way cheaper than a shaft system. run a stud girdle on those with a roller cam to stop the deflection.
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09-13-2009, 03:49 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Sounds like a nice build, what are your plans for ignition?
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09-13-2009, 10:30 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Look like a nice set up.... I am sure you will make 600 easy with this set up..
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09-14-2009, 02:10 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
im pretty sure Mallory is the manufacturer of summit brand ignition systems...buddies of mine have run it and never had any problems with it What do you think? |
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09-14-2009, 08:00 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
That coil is DEFINITELY mallory, should work well. as far as I can tell it doesn't offer a whole lot of adjustability versus any of 6 series of boxes or it's equivalents, but should work just fine.
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09-14-2009, 09:17 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Another dumb question, What type and size carb are you planning to use?
I am using a 800cfm Holley D.P. Some people say it's too big, but the truck is a drag truck only so I am not concered about fuel milage lol. |
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09-14-2009, 09:30 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
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09-21-2009, 04:17 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
it figures that the day I fly offshore, the pistons show up at my house!
just an update... |
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10-06-2009, 09:38 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
some recent pics just to update my progress
valve covers, carb, oil pan, plugs and wires will go in this weekend I should have it on a test stand some time this weekend and hopefully it will roar to life!!!!!!!! |
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10-06-2009, 10:36 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
DAMN AGAIN!
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10-06-2009, 10:50 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Keep it going, looking good, what is the rest of the truck like? You matched the parts well!
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10-06-2009, 11:20 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
just a pic of the truck it is all going in
excuse the grime...it has been sitting for a few months dont really like the color of it but i cant complain considering it was free to me (handed down from step dad in high school) I am thinking about painting it but that will be down the road the 4 banger and all is still in the truck so I have a ways to go but it will be a HUGE step to get the 400 running!!!!!!! |
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10-07-2009, 01:51 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
nice! man your doing a great job and i like the truck to
do you already have the mounts and headers that you will need for the conversion? |
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10-07-2009, 01:59 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
I plan on using engine plate so headers will most likely be built custom What I want is big tube primaries with 3" collectors, ceramic coated, and they have to fit angle plug heads, anyone know where I should look? Anyone know if anyone makes some like this that would possibly fit with engine plate and not conversion mounts? |
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10-07-2009, 12:08 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
stahl headers
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10-07-2009, 08:20 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
NICE! I love the intake. Are you planning on throwing it on a engine dyno before install? Or a roller dyno once it's done? I am looking hard at the Afr 210's and that intake.
PLEASE KEEP POSTING!! lol If nothing else it gives me motovation...lol |
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10-08-2009, 10:41 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
I tell you what....the AFRs were hard to swallow when i first clicked the button but once they go there it was worth every penny. I think it will pay off even more when I get it cranked up this weekend! |
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10-08-2009, 11:10 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
If ya need a hand with the motor plate or header build let me know, i have built my own a few times.
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10-09-2009, 12:32 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
I put a 1978 sbc motor in my 96 gmc sanoma truck I need to know were I can get a power steering hoes at any help would be great. thanks tom
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10-09-2009, 12:34 AM
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10-09-2009, 04:41 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Good luck with the first fire, hope you don't need it though, let us know how it goes.
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10-12-2009, 12:21 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Well Artos.....I needed the luck and I just didnt have enough of it
nickel and dime after nickel and dime! After about 10 runs to the parts store I ran out of time this weekend but I am a LOT closer to firing it up than I was last week. After buying a 3/8 plug here and an adapter there, I finally got to pushing the start button only to find out that I didnt have the right starter. The local parts store didnt have the mini starter that would line up with a 168 tooth flexplate so I have to wait for one to get here. Anyway I will up load pics of the engine on the test stand in a little bit. |
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10-12-2009, 12:59 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
As you can see...
the water pump in these pictures is a temporary one, I could find the fitting that is needed for the new CSR pump that I have the valve covers are temp also, have not ordered the ones I want yet so these are there just to fire it up these pictures dont show it but fuel lines, plugs and wires, ignition wiring, and a newer radiator is on the test stand the headers are only temporary just for the start up, custom headers will be built |
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10-13-2009, 11:57 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
starter and the right adapter for MY water pump should be here tomorrow
going to give it another shot this weekend...ill let you know how it goes |
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10-14-2009, 11:30 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
starter came in today...i love summit shipping!
first fire WILL be friday! |
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10-17-2009, 12:11 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
That pile of crap will never run! Who the hell built it anyway????
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10-17-2009, 01:01 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
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10-17-2009, 01:51 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVt_xc_i11E
so here it is...sorry it is so dark but really there is nothing to see...only to hear!!! |
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10-17-2009, 02:03 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Nice build. Its saturday so what the hell happened on the dyno. hahaha. Just kidding hope you got some good dyno time in and got the engine nailed down. Hate that nickle and dime shit, its always something.
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10-18-2009, 11:07 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
Sounds cool
 . Seems a little different too. With open headers it might be hard to tell, but can you notice the difference in sound with the 4 - 7 cam? |
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10-19-2009, 03:55 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
It's really hard to tell with open headers(just because of the volume), but you can usually hear a difference with a true dual exhaust, as soon as you put an X-pipe on the exhaust though, it sounds too close to tell reliably. Obviously I'm not speaking for emann as I've not heard his engine, but I've heard three other 4-7's that I can recall, one for circle track that had a y-pipe and 3" exhaust with no muffler that sounded almost identical to a standard SBC, but on the dyno with open headers it was just too loud to tell what was different, though it did sound different, one with true duals and flowmaster 40's that definitely sounded different, and one supercharged with true dual 3" and a magnaflow x-pipe resonator that just sounded like a really pissed off SBC.
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10-19-2009, 09:52 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
the truck will be getting torn down within the next few weeks!!!! |
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10-25-2009, 01:17 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
tear down started today....will post pics soon
also got a better video of the 400 running....will post that soon also |
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10-25-2009, 01:24 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
very nice!
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10-26-2009, 01:18 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
and the tea down begins...
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10-26-2009, 01:30 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9sqbj6dL8E
click the link for the 2nd run of the engine...kinda rough but still need to get everything set right wayfastwhitey is runnning the throttle...could not have gotten this far without him,, THANKS a ton!!! |
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10-28-2009, 08:22 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
cal tracs have arrived!!! moving right along!
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10-28-2009, 09:00 PM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
that motor is sick my buddy got a 400 in a blazer running 10.4 on motor almost in the 8s on 175 shot. The damn thing is insane to watch. Its been on the bumper one to many times. Your truck is going to be insane with that motor better get a cage while your at it, your going to need it.
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10-31-2009, 02:29 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
role cage is still under debate but most likely will happen i am just afraid of making a few easy runs at the track and then when everything is set right...one hard run and then being asked to not run again when I break the rules....haha but that would be awesome! Last edited by emann_01 : 10-31-2009 at 02:30 AM. |
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10-31-2009, 08:31 AM
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Re: 97 s-10, SBC 400 build
asking not to return to the track because of breaking the rules is a great thing to happen if you just think about it...
with my ss i was happy at forst but then i got to to thinking about how much more it was going to cost i was sick... lol... i even asked if i would not use the juice if i could keep running... NOPE... lol... hell of a bullet you got there... |
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