2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help

slownlo · 10-23-2009, 08:22 PM

I am done racing my truck I have just moved to far from the track now and want to make it able to drive. I have a th350 with 373 and a 26 1/2 tall tire so it sucks to drive at 45(3000rpm) Now my question is I am going to get a nv3500 and i know I need a pre86 2pc rear main 11" flywheel. I have searched ebay but I just dont know which one to get. Is there anybody that knows the correct flywheel that will work with the nv3500 clutch. Your help will be much appreciated. THank you

slownlo · 10-23-2009, 08:58 PM

http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200...4&toolid=10001 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Zoom-50-6504-Flywheel-Ductile-Iron-168-Tooth-GM-V6_W0QQitemZ370276761254QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item563636fea6

Would this work I am pretty sure. I call them.

Maverick2664 · 10-24-2009, 04:14 PM

what kind of power are you making with that small block, you may want to look into either a 700r4 or 200-4r if you want to stay automatic, with only $3-400 worth of internal upgrades both trannies can hold up to 550-600 horse...

its worth noting that if you do go with either of these, they have different gearsets in them, the 700 has a really low first gear and a rather large gap between 1st and 2nd, and the 200 has the highest overdrive gear of all the OD automatics

Transmission Ratios

Tranny ----- 1st Gear -- 2nd Gear -- 3rd Gear -- 4th Gear OD
Turbo 350: ---- 2.52 ----- 1.52 ------- 1 --------- N/A
Turbo 400: ---- 2.48 ----- 1.48 ------- 1 --------- N/A
200- 4R: ------ 2.74 ----- 1.57 ------- 1 --------- 0.67
700R4 / 4L60: - 3.06 ----- 1.63 ------- 1 --------- 0.7
4L80E: -------- 2.48 ----- 1.48 ------- 1 --------- 0.75

heres an example from the BTO site

Quote: Originally Posted by Bowtie Overdrives

Install a TH-700R4 with these existing 3.08 rear end gears. This car will launch like a TH-350 or TH-400 with 3.73:1 rear end ears, so you can now have your stop light fun. When the Th-700R4 goes into fourth gear, your final drive ratio will be 2.16:1. (3.08:1 rear end ratio x .70:1 4th gear ratio in the Th-700R4 = 2.16:1 overall final drive ratio) With a 26" diameter tire, a 3.08:1 rear end ratio and the Th-700R4 in .70:1 fourth gear, your engine would be turning only 1670 RPM at 60 MPH. This is a pretty picture!

heres a rpm/tranny comparison on their site, fun to play with
http://700r4.com/speedoCalc/rpmcalc.shtml

slownlo · 10-24-2009, 09:34 PM

I would love to do a manual. I just love to dirve them and it is going to be cheaper than a auto. here is a list to do auto and manual.
Auto:
1. new tranny w od. 300

2. build it 400

3. converter 200
4.shifter 100
5. TOTAL======1,000.00

Manual:
1.New tranny 400 tops
2.flywheel 100
3.clutch kit 200
4.TOTAL=======700.00 tops if I need a clutch.
My truck use to be a manual so everything is there.

Maverick2664 · 10-24-2009, 09:51 PM

lol thats funny... you think a manual is cheaper...

Maverick2664 · 10-24-2009, 09:58 PM

and if your engine makes any sort of respectable power, an nv3500 is going to shit the bed on you, theyre only rated to like 300 ft lbs of torque and the gearset in them is designed for a heavier truck, first gear is rediculously low, in the 4 or 5's somewhere, with your 3.73 rearend you wont be able to use first at all, itll wind up to 6k and go 3mph

if you want a durable manual, you need something like a muncie m22 rockcrusher, but its 4th gear isnt overdrive... if you want the OD youll need something like a t5 or t-56... none of which is cheap to buy or cheap to beef up

sosolos10 · 10-25-2009, 11:42 AM

I have a NV3500 for sale with 96k mile on it with Zoom clutch

slownlo · 10-25-2009, 09:23 PM

yeah I have done my research on how much power they will hold. Maybe you should research just how strong they are. Some guys have been using them for years behind motors with 400-500hp. I guess its how you drive. Some of the nv3500 do have different gear ratios as well. The ones in the 1500 are geared very high because of the weight i guess but the ones in the s10s are not that bad. Thanks for the advise though. Also these trannys are a dime a dozen here in fl. I blow it up, screw it get another one. Im picking one up in a couple weeks for 300 for everything.
thank you,

Maverick2664 · 10-25-2009, 10:21 PM

im just saying what ive been told, i work in a hot rod shop and a friend of mine runs a tranny shop, and neither my boss or the other guy thinks much of the nv3500, theres better out there... but all 3 of us also beat the hell out of our vehicles, so stuff has to be strong... if you baby it, it will probably be fine

sosolos10 · 10-25-2009, 10:24 PM

Thats why im put a 6 speed in my truck and selling this on

slownlo · 10-25-2009, 11:12 PM

Well like I said I am done beating the truck. Its makes some power though best time was 12.2 at 118. Not bad for a vortec headed small block POS. I am just making it into a show truck done with all the racing. I got friends with cars that run in the 8s and 9s so Ill just watch them break their stuff. Its always more fun when your not paying for it. I know i could buy a better trans but for what I am going to be doing it will be fine. Like I said these trans are a dime a dozen and I could rip the damn thing out and install a new one in a few hours.

10-23-2009, 08:22 PM	#1
slownlo built for stangs Age: 29 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 230 Location: orlando fl User is: OffLine	2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help I am done racing my truck I have just moved to far from the track now and want to make it able to drive. I have a th350 with 373 and a 26 1/2 tall tire so it sucks to drive at 45(3000rpm) Now my question is I am going to get a nv3500 and i know I need a pre86 2pc rear main 11" flywheel. I have searched ebay but I just dont know which one to get. Is there anybody that knows the correct flywheel that will work with the nv3500 clutch. Your help will be much appreciated. THank you
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10-23-2009, 08:58 PM	#2
slownlo built for stangs Age: 29 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 230 Location: orlando fl User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200...4&toolid=10001 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Zoom-50-6504-Flywheel-Ductile-Iron-168-Tooth-GM-V6_W0QQitemZ370276761254QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item563636fea6 Would this work I am pretty sure. I call them.
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10-24-2009, 04:14 PM	#3
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,135 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help what kind of power are you making with that small block, you may want to look into either a 700r4 or 200-4r if you want to stay automatic, with only $3-400 worth of internal upgrades both trannies can hold up to 550-600 horse... its worth noting that if you do go with either of these, they have different gearsets in them, the 700 has a really low first gear and a rather large gap between 1st and 2nd, and the 200 has the highest overdrive gear of all the OD automatics Transmission Ratios Tranny ----- 1st Gear -- 2nd Gear -- 3rd Gear -- 4th Gear OD Turbo 350: ---- 2.52 ----- 1.52 ------- 1 --------- N/A Turbo 400: ---- 2.48 ----- 1.48 ------- 1 --------- N/A 200- 4R: ------ 2.74 ----- 1.57 ------- 1 --------- 0.67 700R4 / 4L60: - 3.06 ----- 1.63 ------- 1 --------- 0.7 4L80E: -------- 2.48 ----- 1.48 ------- 1 --------- 0.75 heres an example from the BTO site Quote: Originally Posted by Bowtie Overdrives Install a TH-700R4 with these existing 3.08 rear end gears. This car will launch like a TH-350 or TH-400 with 3.73:1 rear end ears, so you can now have your stop light fun. When the Th-700R4 goes into fourth gear, your final drive ratio will be 2.16:1. (3.08:1 rear end ratio x .70:1 4th gear ratio in the Th-700R4 = 2.16:1 overall final drive ratio) With a 26" diameter tire, a 3.08:1 rear end ratio and the Th-700R4 in .70:1 fourth gear, your engine would be turning only 1670 RPM at 60 MPH. This is a pretty picture! heres a rpm/tranny comparison on their site, fun to play with http://700r4.com/speedoCalc/rpmcalc.shtml
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10-24-2009, 09:34 PM	#4
slownlo built for stangs Age: 29 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 230 Location: orlando fl User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help I would love to do a manual. I just love to dirve them and it is going to be cheaper than a auto. here is a list to do auto and manual. Auto: 1. new tranny w od. 300 2. build it 400 3. converter 200 4.shifter 100 5. TOTAL======1,000.00 Manual: 1.New tranny 400 tops 2.flywheel 100 3.clutch kit 200 4.TOTAL=======700.00 tops if I need a clutch. My truck use to be a manual so everything is there.
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10-24-2009, 09:51 PM	#5
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,135 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help lol thats funny... you think a manual is cheaper...
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10-24-2009, 09:58 PM	#6
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,135 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help and if your engine makes any sort of respectable power, an nv3500 is going to shit the bed on you, theyre only rated to like 300 ft lbs of torque and the gearset in them is designed for a heavier truck, first gear is rediculously low, in the 4 or 5's somewhere, with your 3.73 rearend you wont be able to use first at all, itll wind up to 6k and go 3mph if you want a durable manual, you need something like a muncie m22 rockcrusher, but its 4th gear isnt overdrive... if you want the OD youll need something like a t5 or t-56... none of which is cheap to buy or cheap to beef up
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10-25-2009, 11:42 AM	#7
sosolos10 Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 416 Location: Romney WV User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help I have a NV3500 for sale with 96k mile on it with Zoom clutch
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10-25-2009, 09:23 PM	#8
slownlo built for stangs Age: 29 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 230 Location: orlando fl User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help yeah I have done my research on how much power they will hold. Maybe you should research just how strong they are. Some guys have been using them for years behind motors with 400-500hp. I guess its how you drive. Some of the nv3500 do have different gear ratios as well. The ones in the 1500 are geared very high because of the weight i guess but the ones in the s10s are not that bad. Thanks for the advise though. Also these trannys are a dime a dozen here in fl. I blow it up, screw it get another one. Im picking one up in a couple weeks for 300 for everything. thank you,
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10-25-2009, 10:21 PM	#9
Maverick2664 Heavy Metal Body Man Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,135 Location: Erie PA User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help im just saying what ive been told, i work in a hot rod shop and a friend of mine runs a tranny shop, and neither my boss or the other guy thinks much of the nv3500, theres better out there... but all 3 of us also beat the hell out of our vehicles, so stuff has to be strong... if you baby it, it will probably be fine
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10-25-2009, 10:24 PM	#10
sosolos10 Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 416 Location: Romney WV User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help Thats why im put a 6 speed in my truck and selling this on
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10-25-2009, 11:12 PM	#11
slownlo built for stangs Age: 29 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 230 Location: orlando fl User is: OffLine	Re: 2001 nv3500 with pre 86 motor? help Well like I said I am done beating the truck. Its makes some power though best time was 12.2 at 118. Not bad for a vortec headed small block POS. I am just making it into a show truck done with all the racing. I got friends with cars that run in the 8s and 9s so Ill just watch them break their stuff. Its always more fun when your not paying for it. I know i could buy a better trans but for what I am going to be doing it will be fine. Like I said these trans are a dime a dozen and I could rip the damn thing out and install a new one in a few hours.
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