2.8 to v8 with stock 5 speed

[1/4milecrazy]

what exactly are my options, i know the stock trans wont hold the power of V8 but i plan on addressing that later, i have a spare that will be built by a friend over at rockland standard gear, what do i do about clutch and bellhousing. i know my stock one wont work so what do i use, maybe an aftermarket like a lakewood or something. i searched for a litle while but cant find much for the 2.8 only 2.2 or 4.3.

What about a world class t5, they wereonly in the camaros correct?

[Tracker-SS]

the stock 5spd will not hold up. But you can put it on there, you will need an old style bellhousing i think its a muncie bellhousing. I have a bellhousing like you need at the house we are using it on my brothers camaro, they are few and far between... The bolt holes will match up, use the v8 flywheel and the 2.8 clutch and pressure plate. Might have to a little drilling. the t5 in the camaro's weren't rated at but 250 ft pounds of torque. your best bet is a t56 tremec, they are a little pricey but it is your best bet if your planning on running any kind of power. The t5 can be built to hold power but they still aren't very strong.

[lt1s10onair]

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i have the tremec t56 and its amazing..... there arent many good 5 speeds, and the decent ones are almost as expensive as the 6spd.
if you wanna save some dough, get a muncie 4 speed.... theyre great trans's.... but its a 4 speed, so that kinda sucks, but itll def. hold up to a sbc

[1/4milecrazy]

is there an application for the muncie bell housing? how would i look for one? like i said im not worried about power rating it will be built by one of the best around here

[llorracs93s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy

is there an application for the muncie bell housing? how would i look for one? like i said im not worried about power rating it will be built by one of the best around here

pm 72vega91s10....he has a muncie 4spd in his truck right now mated to a 305...i believe he is going to auto soon...so you might be able to nab it from him.

[Rudejester.s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tracker-SS

the stock 5spd will not hold up. But you can put it on there, you will need an old style bellhousing i think its a muncie bellhousing. I have a bellhousing like you need at the house we are using it on my brothers camaro, they are few and far between... The bolt holes will match up, use the v8 flywheel and the 2.8 clutch and pressure plate. Might have to a little drilling. the t5 in the camaro's weren't rated at but 250 ft pounds of torque. your best bet is a t56 tremec, they are a little pricey but it is your best bet if your planning on running any kind of power. The t5 can be built to hold power but they still aren't very strong.

Well, I hate to pick on you out of all these posts but here goes....the T-5 and the Muncie are nothing alike...so the bellhousing wont interchange...not even close. The 2.8 clutch wont bolt to the v8 flywheel..even with drilling.....the splines are also different so you wont be using the 2.8 clutch setup with the v8 flywheel. Try not to give info if you arent 100 percent sure...sorry.

As for the T-5...the one from the Camaro differs a lil from the one in the Mustang..but they are similiar enough that it takes only milling the input shaft (cutting) of the ford T-5 down 5/8's of an inch and getting the right pilot bearing/bushing to mate it up and the ford T-5 is a lil stronger...swap the bellhousing for the gm style as one is hydraulic and the other is cable actuated.

[1/4milecrazy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rudejester.s10

Well, I hate to pick on you out of all these posts but here goes....the T-5 and the Muncie are nothing alike...so the bellhousing wont interchange...not even close. The 2.8 clutch wont bolt to the v8 flywheel..even with drilling.....the splines are also different so you wont be using the 2.8 clutch setup with the v8 flywheel. Try not to give info if you arent 100 percent sure...sorry.

As for the T-5...the one from the Camaro differs a lil from the one in the Mustang..but they are similiar enough that it takes only milling the input shaft (cutting) of the ford T-5 down 5/8's of an inch and getting the right pilot bearing/bushing to mate it up and the ford T-5 is a lil stronger...swap the bellhousing for the gm style as one is hydraulic and the other is cable actuated.

so do you have any answers for the original questions,i dont plan on building a 500+ hpmotor i just want something that looks good

[Rudejester.s10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy

so do you have any answers for the original questions,i dont plan on building a 500+ hpmotor i just want something that looks good

I do have to agree that the T56 would be the way to go...specifically the T56 from 93-95 camaro, as its bellhousing is identical pattern and several kits are available for it....prices from pick-a-part yards lately have been in the 650-850 range. My personal opinion is that the world class T-5 will take some serious abuse and the same thing with the input shaft applies here. Cut it down 5/8" of an inch...use the gm T-5 bellhousing..and Id say your good to go. Some mustang guy around you has one laying around Id bet for prolly 350 bux (Thats what Ive paid for the last three I bought). Of course since your using T-5's...just use the corresponding s10 trans mount...no cutting/welding necessary.

[s10-den]

Just put a 4.3 nv3500 tranny in there and be done,direct bolt in and bolt up...

[1/4milecrazy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rudejester.s10

I do have to agree that the T56 would be the way to go...specifically the T56 from 93-95 camaro, as its bellhousing is identical pattern and several kits are available for it....prices from pick-a-part yards lately have been in the 650-850 range. My personal opinion is that the world class T-5 will take some serious abuse and the same thing with the input shaft applies here. Cut it down 5/8" of an inch...use the gm T-5 bellhousing..and Id say your good to go. Some mustang guy around you has one laying around Id bet for prolly 350 bux (Thats what Ive paid for the last three I bought). Of course since your using T-5's...just use the corresponding s10 trans mount...no cutting/welding necessary.

OK thanx for your help. now what do you mean about cutting the input shaft? cut 5/8 off the length or the diameter? or the part where the pilot bearing rides on? what about clutch and slave cylinder?




As for all the other replies, thank you, but i do not want to change the transmission, i said THE STOCK T-5!!!!!!!

i do not want a t-56 or a nv3500, no muncie 4 speed or zf 6 speed. i want a T-5 that is all!!!


Why is it you can never get a f*cking straight answer on here, except for 1 or 2 people. if you dont know how to do what im asking, dont f*cking reply. period. i didnt ask for trans suggestions, i didnt ask for opinions. i know what a t-5 is capable of, i have 2 of them and one is being built by friends of mine at www.rocklandstandardgear.com they know a thing or two about manual trannies. world class internals that will be michro polished and heat treated.

I am not building a 1200hp blown big block. i am not building a 10 sec street truck. i am building a bagged show truck. i have my camaro for fast. i just want the look and sound of a v-8, thats all.

[camaro1986z28]

try and snag a bell housing from a third gen camaro. they angle the trans 15 degrees towards the driver but thats not really an issue. something from advanced adapters will probably run you like 400 bucks. not worth the coin if your making a good amount of power.

Whatever you do, don't spend a ton of cash on the T5 install. You'll be pissed when you have to replace them at every oil change. but its a good swap for a stock/sorta stock V8 swap. their cheap and plentiful.

[1/4milecrazy]

yeah im not planning on making a lot of power, 300 would be more than expected im aiming for about 250-275 hp, the t-5 work wont cost me much i know the guys over there. even 400 for the bell housing wont be to bad to save me hours of frustration

[s10-den]

$400??for a bellhousing ?..lmao
You can get a nv3500 for cheaper than that,BUT, You do what you want..
When it comes apart on you and you get killed pulling out on a highway,dont say I didnt warn you!
There is a reason it isnt behind a v8 in the first place.

[theoutlaw]

Quote: Originally Posted by s10-den

There is a reason it isnt behind a v8 in the first place.

Hate to burst your bubble but all 80s camaros, firebirds, and mustangs had the T5 behind their V8s.

[s10-den]

Yea your right on that, but not the s10 unit which is what he wants to use,I have used the camaro tranny befor, worked perfect.And the mustang is not even in this class...